Outsourcing - What Country has the Cheapest Labor?

by The Oilman 90 replies
I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisJamesG
    hmmm...labour for what (if you don't mind saying). This one might need to be questioned ethically...
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    • Profile picture of the author Cackle
      well, you might be able to get cheap work in countries where their English isn't great - and you'll have many more communication issues which will end up costing you more time and probably money in the long run. So, I don't know about going for the cheapest is necessarily the smartest. Where you can get a lot of bang for your buck though...are places like the Phillipines and
      sometimes India, though I've noticed a dramatic increase in prices lately.
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    • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
      Originally Posted by ChrisJamesG View Post

      hmmm...labour for what (if you don't mind saying). This one might need to be questioned ethically...
      Why?

      People in third world countries are starving...and he's throwing out a lifeline to save one person and their family...why is that so evil?
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  • Profile picture of the author hangtimenino
    I know for sure that 1US$ in Vietnam, is somewhere around 17,800.00 VND. and if you got a 100US$ instantly you become a millionare. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author FreelanceSally
    If you want to outsource writing to someone in a third world country, good luck with that. My only advice is that you get what you pay for. Cheap price, cheap quality.
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    • Profile picture of the author yasky
      Really depends on what you are looking to outsource. I have had some good luck with articles and blog posts with India. You have to be very picky with them and explain exactly what you want. If they don't deliver you have to fire them immediately... Keep doing that and you will find some good outsourcing people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monika Mundell
      Originally Posted by FreelanceSally View Post

      If you want to outsource writing to someone in a third world country, good luck with that. My only advice is that you get what you pay for. Cheap price, cheap quality.
      Yep I certainly agree with your quote. I also think that hiring cheap labor is not always the smartest thing to do. Sometimes it is justified to pay more!

      This whole cheap labor thinking has really diminished the true value of good website content and I have a feeling that things will change in the not too distant future.

      I'm not saying that outsourcing to cheap labor countries is a bad thing to do Quite the contrary. The question you should ask yourself before outsourcing is "what can be outsourced without damaging my online reputation?" and to whom can I outsource this?

      For example:

      Outsourcing any link building and SEO work to countries like the Philippines and India is pretty much risk-free as these guys really do know their stuff.
      Outsourcing writing to these countries is a huge risk - you could be extremely lucky in finding a great writer, or most likely find yourself having to edit most of their work.

      Monika
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew Duggan
      Originally Posted by FreelanceSally View Post

      If you want to outsource writing to someone in a third world country, good luck with that. My only advice is that you get what you pay for. Cheap price, cheap quality.
      This is a good point. I outsource to the US for my writing stuff. For programming and web design, I'd suggest the Philippines.

      Post your job on Elance.com and you'll get an idea for different countries and their general pricing, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author tamilseo
      Originally Posted by FreelanceSally View Post

      If you want to outsource writing to someone in a third world country, good luck with that. My only advice is that you get what you pay for. Cheap price, cheap quality.
      My advice is renew your domain name before it expire. Your domain name is for sale now
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  • Profile picture of the author cassidywilliams
    I have been outsourcing from Bangladesh with great success. The standard of living (=prices) are cheaper there than India or Pakistan.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    not to sure on the country...but Scriptlance has some great deals as to what I have seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author AFD
      Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

      not to sure on the country...but Scriptlance has some great deals as to what I have seen.
      I hired someone from Scriptlance after geting a sample... but the actual work sucks... There's a lot or words I don't even understand (or I think used improperly) that I had to ask him to rework or else he will not get paid... For cheap with higher quality, I think Philippines is still the best option...

      If someone really needs an excellent content for standard price of $4/500-word article, use http://cyberhubonline.com/. Their quality of articles are real top notch and all of my suggested keywords are used without messing-up the whole content... Their writers are English... I only use them for EZA articles but for all other articles for other directories, I pay $1.5/300-word for someone from scriptlance.

      I think Philippenes
      I think Philippenes has least.
      I agree .........
      I don't see any substance on both comments... can't even pronounce Philippines correctly, eh!
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesleepro1
    I would recommened Bangladesh
    They are good and cheap also
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  • Profile picture of the author rika_downunder
    I'd support what primeoutsourcing said. Not that I have done it yet myself, but I am learning heaps about IM and Philippines has been repeatedly mentioned as the best place for outsourcing - their level of education is very high and English skills are great.
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    indonesia is pretty cheap over at elance but everyone there hikes everything up outragously I paid over 200 for 15 500 word post on adsense just last week then the week prior I had to pay another 1200 for a new site of mine since I look at it this way why do the work myself when i can pay someone to build it for me with out the hassles
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCren
    I just read a post on here about outsourcing to New Zealand: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-students.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

    I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

    Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

    Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
    Do you mean what is the buying power of a U.S. dollar in other countries? If so, that's a bloody hard question to answer, as it depends on so many factors.

    If you're looking to pay someone outside the U.S. to do IM-type activities for you, it would be an easier question to answer if you mentioned what country they are in?

    In much of Europe, a dollar will buy you less than it would even in the U.S. but in, say, Sub-Saharan Africa, it might buy you an amount of goods or services that might cost $10 or $20 or even more in the U.S.

    The best answer is: it depends.

    Tommy.
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  • Profile picture of the author edpudol1973
    Well I guess Philippines is one of the best and cheapest place to outsource
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  • Profile picture of the author Ciaran Doyle
    I definitely agree that the Philippines is probably your best bet. Try searching for people to actually work for you instead of just hiring them from elance or RAC.

    Look on actual Philippines job boards.

    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author morwanneg
    My copywriter is from Philippines. I must admit her english is excellent. Far better than mine. Ironic isn't it? LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyroneshum
    Hi everyone,

    I think the question to ask is what is the best value of labour for your money?

    Cause as people have pointed out, there are going to be cheap labour throughout the world, India, China, Philippines and so forth.

    In my personal experience I've personally been only hiring from the Philippines and it's because yes their labour is cheaper in comparison to 1st world countries, but their ethics, loyalty and their English, especially is of high value. Which means that the work is done properly and on time.

    I've been able to hire full-time staff for $250 per month as well and they do an exceptional job. Though I know you can hire people for less from India, but from personal experience, the work has not been of the same standard.

    In saying this, I recommend seeking people in the Philippines and finding people with good English verbal and written skills. With this you should get good value out of your money and in return great work completed.
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  • Profile picture of the author uniquecontent
    I think Philippenes
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    I think Philippenes has least.
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      I think Philippenes has least.
      I agree .........
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  • Profile picture of the author blackcat123
    I think India is a good place to outsource your work. I don't know whether it is the cheapest place around but you can get most of your work done for a cheaper price. But be cautious when you dealing.....
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

    I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

    Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

    Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
    India is a good country to outsource some departments to ... but I don't think this discussion can be held ethically, really. Cheapest labor for US Dollar? How about a sweatshop in Taiwan? I know NIKE likes these kinds of practices.
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    • Profile picture of the author francoza
      I think Philippians and Indian people are very cheap. You can outsource your work form there.

      People even have companies that are situated in these countries but belong to UK or USA.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    On a site called freelancer.com there are people offering $1-$2 per 500 word article which seems very cheap. I am not sure what the quality is like though.
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  • Profile picture of the author robrave
    yeah, Philippines is one.

    Well we are educated and can do things pretty good if instructed very well.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkAse
    I don't know if I'd be looking for the cheapest necessarily (you'll see offers for under $1 an hour from places like Pakistan) but the quality/price is what is important to me. For that, it's hard to beat the Philippines in my experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author aaallday2010
      It depends. Cheap doesn't necessarily mean bad quality.

      If you're looking to get some coding done, then I've had good success with the Vietnam and India.

      If you're looking for something that involves writing (such as articles), I would stay away from India. Their grammar is terrible.

      Hire someone from the Philippines instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author jennypitts
    I have to agree with Alexa, it is a matter of rhetoric and interpretation. Cheap to us in the US may not be cheap to others, with regards to cost of life, etc. And does not necessarily mean cheap quality.

    It also depends very much on WHAT you are outsourcing, and what your particular needs are. I have to also say that is a matter of trial and error. I have hired quite a few different programmers, and SEO people from India, and Southern Asian countries and the quality has VARIED dramatically. I have had GREAT quality as well as terrible work which I have had to pay even more money to have someone else fix it. I have hired a lot of my freelancers through scriptlance and getafreelancer and I have to say that although I continue to use programmers from India, when it comes to my writing, I stick to native English speakers and writers, even if it entails having to spend $15 or more on an article.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

    I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

    Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

    Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
    The two are TOTALLY different! HECK, a dollar has ALWAYS bought a dollar in the US. EVEN after inflation, a dollar would have bought FAR more labor in the 60s! JAPANs currency has always been FAR less than the dollar. A yen is besically like our PENNY, and worth about the same. Apparently they get paid VERY well though, and prices are just that much higher.

    You can buy 18,994.9 vietnamese dongs for a dollar though. I don't know if that is the lowest, but it is LOW! I hear they DO have low labor costs also.

    Steve
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    I can recommend VMG BPO they are fast, relable and cheap and have foreigners working there so the english skills are no problem. Very good payment thru paypal etc...

    I have no connection with them but they are helping me Oilman.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamespitt
      As I spend most of my life in the Philippines, I'd have to say it's tough to beat it for great quality people to work for you at a good price.

      In fact, if you really wanted to get some of cheapest people in the world, if you really knew where to look you could find them. But - you'd have to speak the local language(s) and give up on paypal. It would be a lot more hassle for you to cut the cost from to (say) $50 a month, which is where the salaries are going to be at their (very) lowest. You're going to be having to find people totally in the provinces or at university. Both of those groups have a bit of a habit of vanishing. You are also strictly-speaking breaking the law & paying below the minimum wage.

      A lot of this is about how much you value your time. If you want a hassle-free life, you use someone like my company, much as you could use a contracting company to get staff in the US/UK/etc, but you pay more. There are good quality people you can employ direct but demand a good wage and are hard to find, if you want to save money. If you want to find yet cheaper people you're going to have to spend more and more time finding them and training them up. As you want to pay less, the amount of hassle goes up and up.
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        • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Talking of outsourcing labour to foreign parts (and who isn't, these days?), I just had a sales phone-call an hour ago from my ISP, offering me an upgrade from 20 to 50 MB/sec download speed on a 12-month contract with the first 6 months at a very low charge (as they do), and the man had quite an unusual accent I couldn't place, so after accepting their new service I asked him which country he was originally from, and to my surprise he said "I'm calling you from Manila in the Philippines - we make all our call centre calls from here now".
          Some call centers here in the Philippines really require to at least sound like an American, because I think Filipinos can't really sound like an American 100 percent, unless they have lived in the US.

          They have good workshops for this accent thing.

          My cousin is a call center agent and there were few clients couldn't believe that he's a Filipino. His English is really exceptional.

          On the other hand, there are lots of Filipinos too who are only good in writing, but when it comes to speaking/conversing, they suck on it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paperchasing
            Originally Posted by magiclouie View Post

            Some call centers here in the Philippines really require to at least sound like an American, because I think Filipinos can't really sound like an American 100 percent, unless they have lived in the US.

            They have good workshops for this accent thing.

            My cousin is a call center agent and there were few clients couldn't believe that he's a Filipino. His English is really exceptional.

            On the other hand, there are lots of Filipinos too who are only good in writing, but when it comes to speaking/conversing, they suck on it.
            This reminds me of some of my friends in Singapore who have great written English but nearly incomprehensible spoken accents from a Western perspective. Because I knew them from the internet far before I ever heard them speak, it was rather jarring hearing their Singlish for the first time. On that topic, I'm has anybody had any experience outsourcing to Singapore?
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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    You can find cheap labor in almost any country. Keep in mind that as people develop they become worth more, so if they are cheap, that usually mean they are not all that well developed in their business yet. If they are good, eventually they will charge more.
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    Philippines and India was good for freelancer,..its worthed price for their job..
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

    I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

    Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

    Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
    The answer to the first part of that question is going to vary from minute to minute. Check any forex site or Yahoo finance to see how much any currency pair can fluctuate on any given day.

    I notice you mentioned "cheap labour", and not "the best value". Two entirely different things. As others have pointed out, ya gets what ya pays for.

    My experience is that the cheapest deals require more time, effort and yes, money to make things right than it would've taken to do it properly in the first place.
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    • Profile picture of the author nm5419
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      I notice you mentioned "cheap labour", and not "the best value".
      That's probably because the guy's not looking for value, but an arbitrage opportunity instead. TLS
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  • Profile picture of the author sober
    Philippines is said to have quality workers who are not only good with their English but have high work ethics also.
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  • Profile picture of the author Deepak Media
    I am from India and I do recommend India for a balance of quality and price. I have tried a few countries and I outsource many of the works to my own country. Some jobs like logo design etc. I outsource to USA.

    In the big picture, internet is like a single country... just see the price and quality and do what suits you. It does not matter whether the person working for you is in North Pole or New York.
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      Originally Posted by Deepak Media View Post

      I am from India and I do recommend India for a balance of quality and price. I have tried a few countries and I outsource many of the works to my own country. Some jobs like logo design etc. I outsource to USA.

      In the big picture, internet is like a single country... just see the price and quality and do what suits you. It does not matter whether the person working for you is in North Pole or New York.
      I totally agree with you India would certainly come number one as they have lots of highly qualified and educated workforce out there.
      The very fact that most of the international big business or corporates outsource their work to India speaks volumes about the quality and its effectiveness.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
    I tried that link to that job center in New Zealand and gotr refused as your not allowed to hire per job and only $12.50 minimum per hour!

    Also no out of country.... but still sounds like a good country to outsource too in order to get a english speaking worker.

    Anyone got any other sites similar?

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  • Profile picture of the author thetrafficaddict
    For outsourcing writing, web design, virtual assistance, and customer service, Philippines would be your best bet. They've got highly talented people there for pennies on a dollar.

    Ethical? Yes, cause it's a win-win situation. You make money, and they get paid.
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  • Profile picture of the author CSVAS
    There are cheaper outsourcing companies than Philippines but you won't get the quality you are expecting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Worthen
    I have 2 full time guys in India. And i pay them much more than you would expect, plus the top guy gets a % of profits. I always like to have both a minimum salary and a incentive for them to do better.

    Those 2 do a great job, but i never had much luck hiring part time programmers from India through Scirptlance and i have dozens of completed projects there. My best value in programmers came from Canada and Russia. Right now i have a part time programmer in Indonesia that is both good and very affordable.

    I have expansion plans and yesterday offered 2 more guys and one girl in India, jobs. I also found a guy in Philippines that i am talking to and hope to hire him full time too.

    I live in the USA and i was grown before i seen a person of hispanic decent in my area, and now some small towns have over half the kids as Mexicans. And as a group, they are the nicest, hardest working people i know. Of course for our purposes we need them to speak English and many don't, but i bet they are a good place to look too.

    In the future i plan to check out Bangladesh as someone here recommended and focus on India and Philippines. Some of those Central American countries should be good too.

    And lastly, it depends on if the person already has skills and can step right in and start making you money, or if they have to learn things and it's going to be a speculative play if the ever earn a roi.

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  • Profile picture of the author edv
    I have to recommend Eastern Europe. Their English is good and they provide good results. It really depends on what type of work are you offering and what do you consider as cheap. Average salary in Croatia (if payed by hour) is 4USD per hour and they will consider it great for a home job as very few people are familiar with working online.
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  • Profile picture of the author koncorps
    'Money' is more than what you pay upfront.

    It's about having reliability, quality and consistency with your worker.

    That's not an easy thing to find in any country to be honest.

    Pro-active, forward thinking people are few and rare, and you can find highly qualified English speaking workers from both South East Asian Countries + Eastern European ones.

    Just remember that outsourcing is the equivalent of multiply your success or failure ... so unless your making money online don't do it regardless of what the Guru's said.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
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    Philippines has an Excellent English language compared to other non-English speaking countries. Not too many software engineers though.

    India has massive programmers due to technology advancement and population but I doubt their English skills. They are good in coding and design though.

    So it depends on what you need.

    Right now, I have 8 full time writers (4 Filipinos, 2 Americans, and 2 Romanians) and a Filipino VA who do the linkbuilding. I'm planning to have another full time VA this week.

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    I would recommend Philippines and Indians. Both are very innocent, cheap and decent workers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    i would say the asian countries...such as pakistan, india etc...

    but you dont know what kind of people you are dealing it so pay attention!
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    • Profile picture of the author BudgetSEO
      Originally Posted by Fazal Mayar View Post

      i would say the asian countries...such as pakistan, india etc...

      but you dont know what kind of people you are dealing it so pay attention!
      Pak would mean no Paypal, Philippines followed by India.
      As for payment I'd recommend split payments or through some escrow.
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      • Profile picture of the author razorz18
        Do you have any website link directly for software developer. i'm looking for cheap one because i just start my business. Give opinion also what is the mean by CHEAP SERVICE anyway? is that based on hourly? weekly or fixed rated is more preferable
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  • Profile picture of the author Soozi
    Well this is all interesting, I have been using someone in Thailand but it sounds like the Philippines might be a better option!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Soozi,

      If your Thai person is working out, I wouldn't change just for the sake of changing.

      There is a huge push towards the Philippine as far as outsourcing goes. And for good reason. But there are people all over the world that can and would love to do a good job for you.


      I'm just saying.


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      Originally Posted by Soozi View Post

      Well this is all interesting, I have been using someone in Thailand but it sounds like the Philippines might be a better option!
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    yes some of the asian countries like to work for pennies becuase $1 over there, is the same as about earning $50 here.

    It is all realative in todays standard of living. But you have to find some hard workders. I have been scammed in the past, but I now have a good team of hard ass get off their ass works and they bring in good traffic without me having to baby them.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    You know, asbout 6 years ago, HERE, some people said OH, any indian from college, REGARDLESS of studies could do this! They could do it in a few WEEKS, and for like a few hundred dollars. $5o was collected from each person, IIRC, and it was THOUSANDS of dollars, IIRC. I said "YEAH RIGHT", "DREAM ON", etc.... But I STILL donated money.

    The first version was a DISASTER! OH, SURE, it LOOKED OK, but had NO logic behind it. NONE! MONTHS later, it STILL wasn't that great. I left for YEARS and when I came back I asked several people what happened with it. They said "NOTHING"! And I see NOTHING that looks like it on the market, etc...

    And one of those guys, the guy in charge, ran an indian programming firm!

    So don't believe all you hear. Most is BUNK!

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  • Profile picture of the author sarahberra
    I think India is the cheapest. You may need to weed through a few employees until you find the best match though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    I kinda took the word 'cheap' negative...well India will be my best bet for this as I have seen lots of people from there apply in freelancing sites. But Im pretty aware that US dollars is worth more in other countries, not sure which country from Asia though.

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  • Profile picture of the author CPA Andrew
    Philippines for sure, it's not just about how cheap you can get it, it's about the quality of the work they deliver and they're definitely up to standards with that.
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    Phillipines
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Cheapest can also turn out to be the most expensive if you hire the wrong people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    I don't know, maybe Haiti or Darfur...

    I don't know that I would hire anyone there to do my web work though.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Based on my experiences thus far...

    A moron is a moron regardless of which country they work from. Some morons are cheaper than others.

    Same goes for idiots. The only difference between a cheap idiot and and expensive idiot is the price.

    A $3 per hour worker who knows nothing about IM or direct sales is inevitably more expensive than a $20 per hour worker who does.

    Same goes for writers.

    The question then becomes: How much do you value your own hourly rate at?

    Are you happy to spend 10 hours of your time to train and train a moron who just doesn't get it?

    Think about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
      Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

      Based on my experiences thus far...

      A moron is a moron regardless of which country they work from. Some morons are cheaper than others.

      Same goes for idiots. The only difference between a cheap idiot and and expensive idiot is the price.

      A $3 per hour worker who knows nothing about IM or direct sales is inevitably more expensive than a $20 per hour worker who does.

      Same goes for writers.

      The question then becomes: How much do you value your own hourly rate at?

      Are you happy to spend 10 hours of your time to train and train a moron who just doesn't get it?

      Think about it.
      Then why would you train that moron and you already know that he's a moron?

      Give it some thought!
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  • Profile picture of the author paulpower
    I would say Caveat Emptor buyer beware, in my experience, I have bought cheap, and got what I deserved a cheap and totally unusable product.

    So I would recommend any of the big outsourcing companies, and pay for someone with a good track record.
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  • for writing, the best deals on quality material are found by just outsourcing to students in the U.S.

    students in creative writing programs will be willing to offer stuff for cheap in order to build up a portfolio.

    india is fine for SEO content that isn't meant to be read by a human audience, and probably also fine for basic news articles. however, you really don't want to hire them for sales copy or any kind of persuasive article meant to convince someone of something, no matter how low a price they give you. there are two reasons for this:

    1, the stereotypical $2 article guy in india really is not selling something anyone is going to be able to read. now, i'm aware that some people are willing to take this because they just want keyword stuffing for SEO, but in the era of panda, you really want to think twice about the value of a keyword packed article that nobody is going to find interesting. if you're really dead set on getting articles on the cheap, you stand a better chance of finding a decent content from a u.s. student on fiverr who's looking to build a portfolio.

    2) you straight up won't find any persuasive content coming out of developing countries. a lot of Indians have very good technical English, but even the best writers there can't write sales copy that'll convert well with a U.S. audience. I've seen what their stuff looks like, and the attempts to use u.s. english casually (as in, with informal turns of phrase, witty lines, sayings, etc) just seem really stiff and forced. It's hard to describe, but you'll start to recognize this when you see enough of it. Like instead of saying "hire me and you'll get a smokin' hot sales letter that "sells the sizzle" and gets the sale every time," they'd say something like "if you hire me you will be guaranteed to get a successful sales letter that sells the sizzle, not the steak, and is effective in getting sales."
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  • Profile picture of the author MakeMoneyJames
    Philippines has good workers, but not the cheapest. Bangladesh has cheap workers and some other countries I dont remember. I've had people in philipines apply to jobs for .50-1.00/hr

    I've had people apply to my job for as low as $0.10/hr in other countries. The work was simple research so it comes down to the ability to hire the right person and train them as far as work quality goes.

    Most people don't know how to hire/train people to get acceptable workers. I love outsourcing and have spent over $10,000 in a month on workers, so I have a little bit of experience.

    IMO - for the most part... poor quality workers is the employers fault, not the employees.
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  • Profile picture of the author Guru_Marketing
    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

    I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

    Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

    Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nexstair
    I have had a bad experience with Indians as they got money and ran away.Philippines are the cheapest in price and quality.The best quality and price combination is in Pakistani Market.Have a great experience.

    Originally Posted by The Oilman View Post

    I was jut wondering where the US dollar is worth the most in other countries?

    Or -- in other words, which country has the cheapest labor.

    Are those two sentences the same or different? I dont know.
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  • Profile picture of the author cb1803
    I would advise for India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
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    "I want to get to the top, by working as close to the bottom as possible" :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Sohel Parvez
    You May use oDesk for hire Freelance Contractor, you will find there cheapest contractor over all country
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  • Profile picture of the author robnoble
    I've tried outsourcing to Indians a number of times and every time had a disapointing outcome. The last time was to a phillipina and she was very good.
    So as much as I like Indian people in general (and we have a lot here in the Uk) and appreciate how industrious they tend to be, I will not be trying them again for outsourcing!
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  • Profile picture of the author MakeMoneyJames
    Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors View Post

    irrespective of where you hire, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys
    And sometimes thats all you need to get the job done efficently.

    A highly trained monkey

    For some jobs I can hire people at $0.25/hr and hire 10 people at that price. Instead of the price of one person to do it at $2.50/hr. Which does work just as well as the $0.25/hr person.

    And i'll get more than 10 times the amount of work done for the same price per hour.
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    • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
      Originally Posted by MakeMoneyJames View Post

      And sometimes thats all you need to get the job done efficently.



      A highly trained monkey

      For some jobs I can hire people at $0.25/hr and hire 10 people at that price. Instead of the price of one person to do it at $2.50/hr. Which does work just as well as the $0.25/hr person.

      And i'll get more than 10 times the amount of work done for the same price per hour.
      worked for chuck berry - too much monkey business
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        here is a super tip:

        Just because you are looking for cheap tricks, and cheap outsourcers does not mean you are gunna get the best service.

        I have found with all the money we have spent on outsourcing, the more you pay the better work you get. Time and time again this happens.

        There is also a language barrier too sometimes.

        Look, if you research and make sure what you are getting is good quality and listen to what other people are saying about your outsources you will be fine.....but again, do not think cheap is the best, on some occasions you are actually wasting that money all together.
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  • Profile picture of the author anthony2
    I have found outsourcing to the phillipines
    has been cheaper in price but the quality
    is still good.

    India has been bad either.
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  • Profile picture of the author flamewave
    As a content writer with staff I have to say that you cant compete with Aus, US, UK and Canada. I myself am an Aussie, I have only One developing world writer and that is a Kenyan man that I have actually meet, worked with, and really liked his writing. He has a degree and writes with an intelligence that is easy to read. I would not ask him to write sales copy though.

    If you want converting sales copy, I always say you get what you pay for. Myself, I am a bit more expensive than other guys. However my writers know how to write copy that hits the right note and gets the customer buying, clicking and satying on the page. Conversion is what matters in copy, if you want to spend .10c per 100 words on what is basically representing your business, then the risk is yours.

    Its been shown that unique content is great for SEO and SERP, so my advice is dont scrimp on it. Find a writer you like, pay them what they are worth, enjoy the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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    I would recommend you to use providers from Bangladesh and Philippines. Philippians English skill is good but not really good at technology. Bangladeshis are good in both but not as cheap as Philippians.

    Indians are not really reliable. I see lots of frauds from India!
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  • Profile picture of the author Amenda Jessera
    I would suggest, India or Sri Lanka - the better place to outsource, Specially, I think in Sri Lanka you can get better offer, We used some people over there and really worked well.
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