Should I get new website designed in CMS or normal HTML?

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I want to set up a new website to essentially replace my current website which has had severe SEO problems. I think there are many issues with the structure plus bad links etc so I have decided to keep that as is and build a new site with different content mostly.

But I want a good design for the new site.

I am not sure whether to go with a CMS designed site (i.e. Wordpress) or just have everything in HTML as I am doing currently.

My current site has everything in HTML and similar formats plus a Wordpress blog. I can edit this myself although to create completely new pages with anything a little bit complex, I may need a web designer to help me.

I am looking to get the site set up with a good structure etc but am not sure how to proceed as is it easy to set up my own pages on a CMS e.g. create a Custom 404 Error Page or would it be better to just structure this in HTML?

I am a bit confused on how to proceed right now so would be grateful for your advice and experience.

The main aim is obviously to build a site easy to use and to find for potential customers and website visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    The simple answer is that a good solid CMS will take alot of work away. If you hired a web designer ( In this context I assume a developer ) he would probably recommend a CMS as the base framework anyway (if he did not already have his own base code).
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  • Profile picture of the author preets
    My suggestion is to go for wordpress , it is easy to maintain and also good for SEO point of view.
    You can hire any wordpress developer to do it for you and after that you can manage your site easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author techbul
    CMS (Wordpress) will definitely be easy to manage. You can also find plenty of themes, and sometimes you may find exactly what you were looking for in a $50 theme, so you won't need to pay hundreds to a web designer.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeff09
      Originally Posted by techbul View Post

      CMS (Wordpress) will definitely be easy to manage. You can also find plenty of themes, and sometimes you may find exactly what you were looking for in a $50 theme, so you won't need to pay hundreds to a web designer.
      I agree. Wordpress is very easy to build and manage. No coding knowledge required.
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      • Profile picture of the author icandi
        Not being an expert in Web-Design myself I started with Wordpress for my own site. I was later asked to design a site for a client who liked mine and enquired who ad designed it. I looked at all the options, even Flash which of course people always say avoid. That's a simplistic answer as not all clients priorities are SEO, for them it's a showcase for their work, especially for high end established businesses and for the mobile issue it's fairly simple to have a redirect to a mobile optimised version. There's still a big market in the Flash template marketplace, so despite the downfalls it still seems to be popular in some sectors.
        Problem with Wordpress (for me) is just sometimes it's frustrating to truly make them look creative or different - I've looked at literally 100's on the big distributor sites such as Themeforest and bought a handful - some of the sliders don't work on mobiles anyhow and the simpler ones are quite boring. I have a few themes and my favourites are full screen or ones where the background is not restricted to colours with option to upload your own scrolling and responsive, quite a bit of CSS customisation needed but they don't look like typical WP sites and load times are ok as I've not overloaded with plugins (another factor nothing beats html for page loading quite important in some parts of the world) For clients WP sites are overall better I feel as they can login - restricted of course and maintain their own blog element.
        I guess the simple answer is a good WP with a versatile quality theme is usually a good option provided there aren't too many plugins and you're located in areas where internet connection is not like here in some parts of Asia. Of course this is from my perspective and it's only my personal opinion. In short -"Horses for Courses"
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  • Profile picture of the author John325
    Both CMS and HTML are good, but if you want to do seo for your website, then I would like to suggest for Wordpress because Wordpress is easy to navigate and free plugins are also make your work more easier. So I think Wordpress is good for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThinhH
    CMS (Wordpress) would be the best option in this case.
    With the huge numbers of plugins, you can easily manage
    and promote your website both SEOly and beautifully.
    You can get amazing already-created themes from
    collections like themeforest from $35 to $40.

    However,

    If you prefer to do HTML, you would require a huge amount
    of times in optimizing your Website.

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  • Profile picture of the author redexclub
    Originally Posted by RahulNag View Post

    I want to set up a new website to essentially replace my current website which has had severe SEO problems. I think there are many issues with the structure plus bad links etc so I have decided to keep that as is and build a new site with different content mostly.

    But I want a good design for the new site.

    I am not sure whether to go with a CMS designed site (i.e. Wordpress) or just have everything in HTML as I am doing currently.

    My current site has everything in HTML and similar formats plus a Wordpress blog. I can edit this myself although to create completely new pages with anything a little bit complex, I may need a web designer to help me.

    I am looking to get the site set up with a good structure etc but am not sure how to proceed as is it easy to set up my own pages on a CMS e.g. create a Custom 404 Error Page or would it be better to just structure this in HTML?

    I am a bit confused on how to proceed right now so would be grateful for your advice and experience.

    The main aim is obviously to build a site easy to use and to find for potential customers and website visitors.
    If you want to update your sites content regularly than you have to consider a CMS because it will give you an admin panel where you will be about to add/edit pages/contents. else HTML

    I'm an experienced web designer so feel free to pm me if you need any kinds of support
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    I believe it depends on your current website actually do ? maybe both CMS and HTML are not you best choices
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      CMS means Content Management System and HTML is a coding language. Any site can be a CMS, and Wordpress is written with php and html.

      If SEO is poor it makes no difference what "code" is being used

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      • Profile picture of the author frankeningrid
        CMS means Content Management System and HTML is a coding language. Any site can be a CMS, and Wordpress is written with php and html.

        If SEO is poor it makes no difference what "code" is being used
        As @agmccall said, WordPress is a CMS written in PHP and HTML, and therefore it may be possible for you to just get a web developer to convert your existing site to PHP / WordPress (depends on the site however).

        I think you will find using WordPress a lot easier than having to edit HTML because you can add new pages and alter your content a lot more easily with WordPress' visual editor. As others have mentioned, there are also plugins that will help you make your site more share-able and SEO friendly but if the content is the problem then converting it to a CMS-based system is not going to be the solution.

        Also, you should be aware that keeping your website secure is very important, you will have to ensure that you (or someone else) applies the regular WordPress security updates to your site to keep it safe from external threats (hackers, spammers etc) - it's not hard to do but it has to be done.
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  • Profile picture of the author tamalanwar
    It is good to use a CMS. Wordpress is better. Since you know HTML you can edit the code too. Since WP is a blog + adds categories and tags, it will be great for SEO.

    You can have a tech person to convert your site to WP and manage the redirects. He/She will redirect the URLs with 301 so you can preserve the links/rankings.

    I am also a designer and I can do these things mentioned above.
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  • Profile picture of the author RahulNag
    Thanks for all your responses. It has been really helpful. It looks like a CMS and in particular, Wordpress is the almost unanimous choice.

    On my current website, I do have a /blog section which is Wordpress with a Genesis Framework and Magazine Theme. It works quite well although I am not that good at design so it is pretty basic from a design point of view, with minimum customisation.

    In my mind, I guess I was thinking every page would look like a blog page, whereas I want it to look like a 'normal' web page with links at the bottom of the page etc.

    Here is what I think I will do then. Go with Wordpress. I already have the Genesis Framework as mentioned so could use that and either get someone to custom design or to use a Studio Press or other Theme to do everything else. Any suggestions on that?

    It does look like lots of other things I want on the site e.g. directories and online quizzes, can just be Wordpress Plug-Ins rather than custom designs which I have been paying for in some instances.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    I've had this exact dilemma myself recently. I've moved from a static HTML website to wordpress. I would self host through a hosting provider rather than the bog standard wordpress main site. Then I'd get someone to customise your site just as you like it. Set up 301 redirects to all your HTML pages and your done. My site was a well established HTML site with 780 of quality content, so it took a while, but well work it. I love the schedule post feature of wordpress, which is awesome for creating posts and posting them even when i'm on vacation.
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  • Profile picture of the author aritrim
    I would suggest using Twitter Bootstrap as in this age of smart gadgets you need to have a responsive design. A WordPress installation with a responsive WordPress template is another solution. But with WordPress my only suggestion will be to harden it's security so your website do not get hacked or compromised.

    Static HTML is good but for if you have a plan to add fresh content, definitely prefer a CMS.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      There are lots of other great CMS solutions besides WordPress. I recommend being different. Make it hard for people to figure out what you are running and you stand a much better chance of keeping your website secure.

      FYI, site security starts at the server level. WordPress plugin authors will tell you to use their plugins for security, but what they don't tell you is how much CPU resources those plugins use if you are actually under attack.

      In my humble opinion, and after 8 years of contributing and providing services in the Open Source communities, if you are concerned about website security, but you still want to manage your website easily, I recommend that you select a CMS that the masses DON'T use: that means no WordPress, no Joomla, no Drupal.

      I wish you every success with your website re-launch.
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      • Profile picture of the author RahulNag
        Thanks for your feedback. So I have bought the new domain name, set up the Genesis Framework which I already had bought previously. It automatically updated to the latest version. And then I bought another Studio Press Child Theme for under $20, so little cost to start it up.

        I think most of the set up is quite easy. The tricky thing is that the sales letter is currently in html format and the formatting and photos don't quite work when cut and paste into the html section of Wordpress. However, it is not too bad a start. I may need to get a web designer to do this and also get the design of the other sections right.

        The rest of the sections are mostly text including an articles section, a separate blog. I did have a coder put together an online test originally for the current site. I realize I could either use his Drupal designed work perhaps in a separate folder /onlinetest with the new website or just go with one of the Wordpress Plug-ins I have seen.

        I am realizing that I can use a combination of the main Wordpress site but also other types of files for the homepage or even a separate Wordpress installation for other parts of the website e.g. /blog.

        Is that normal to use different formats for different sections of the website? Or should I be trying to do everything from within the main single Wordpress installation?

        @Karen Blundell and @Valdor Kiebach: I am hoping the Genesis Framework will deal with the security issues.

        @Paid Surveys: I don't think I will do 301 redirects as I have read in a couple of places that Google doesn't like this. And to try and keep the sites separate.

        The whole website creation was much easier than expected. I also got a couple of logo designs from Fiverr.com which are not bad. So, originally I was expecting to pay hundreds of dollars to set this up but it has been a fraction of that.

        I may still need help with design and if I do use html/php/Drupal etc for some sections of the website then that could cost a bit for design.

        One thing is for sure, even though I am still getting some sales from the current website, it has fallen even further in the SE rankings. For the latest month of May, according to SEMRush, I am at 3 for May 2013 US SE Traffic, compared to 18 in April 2013 and 710 back in December 2011.

        I will look at other forms of traffic as well such as PR and also Google AdWords and other paid advertising for the new website but essentially keep them separate.
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  • Profile picture of the author Valdor Kiebach
    I try to avoid wordpress like the plague.

    Having used it and got fedup with having to update something every time I logged in or the risk of being hacked or a bloated database...

    I try to hand code my sites now in HTML5 and php.

    You could try Joomla as its just as good as WP.

    It looks like a CMS and in particular, Wordpress is the almost unanimous choice.
    I expect that is because its easy to use for non technical people and most if not all WSO's regarding webdesign are about using it.
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  • Profile picture of the author magiceyes
    Everyone here roots for Wordpress.
    Myself I have a few WP sites but I've also found the new Joomla to be a great CMS.
    The learning curve may be a bit steep but it is easier (at least for me) to manage all the content, documents, images, videos via the secure Joomla backend.
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  • Profile picture of the author vicwic
    I'm going against the majority here too, I've recently been doing some design work for a charity and we were working on a wordpress site. It just wouldn't do the things we wanted it to. I'm self taught, so it's partly down to my lack of time right now to get seriously into the wordpress code so it would work how we wanted and their lack of an actual budget to fund someone else who does know. I've ended up writing it in php and html - using code that i DO know will work so far so good with it.

    Nothing wrong with doing your own thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author RahulNag
    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks for your help so far.

    Let me give you an update as to where I am and the next challenge I am facing.

    So, I decided after people potentially charging me hundreds of dollars to set up the new domain name e.g. www.mydomain.com and to have the index as the sales letter which was written for me in html. I had to play around and move some images from the old site but I have set this up myself.

    I did try to get this into Wordpress format as a sales letter using the Premise Plug-in but it is just too hard to get it as is right now.

    So, what I ideally now want is to have the landing page as html and then the rest of the site as Wordpress.

    The issue I am now finding has to do with getting the URL structure right.

    So, if I put the Wordpress installation into mydomain.com/blog, then how do I get the following sections:

    mydomain.com/articles/article1
    /article2
    /article3 etc

    and also other things I want to set up
    e.g.
    /onlinetest
    /disclaimer
    /termsofuse etc

    At the moment, the URL would be mydomain.com/blog/disclaimer etc

    So, I am feeling a bit stuck because the landing page is in html as to how to get around this.

    Otherwise I may need multiple WordPress installations. Otherwise I need some way of getting that html page into Wordpress. But it is based on my original sales letter on the old website which has been converting well.

    Any suggestions gratefully appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Rahul
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  • Profile picture of the author amcg
    I've used all three main CMS's - Joomla, Wordpress and Drupal - at various points. Joomla was the first I used, and it's still super easy to get started with. Likewise, Wordpress is easy to install and use.

    I have to admit, I'd pretty much always recommend Drupal now though. The product is great but also, the community and modularity that comes from free/open source is pretty much unmatched in the CMS world. Forrester are now even recommending Drupal among WCMS systems, pretty much the only OS option among all the proprietary options other there e.g Adobe, Sitecore, Ektron etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author jadesource
    I'm at the point where I don't understand anything other than wordpress for websites. It just does it all. I wouldn't set up an html site anymore.

    Wordpress will always set you right.
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  • Profile picture of the author curationsoft
    go for CMS, it is much easy to manage if you want to make any changes on your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author eClicker
    You can put the landing page in a directory like yourdomain.com/lp/landingpage.html and use a bitly url to point to the landing page.
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  • Profile picture of the author MonitorScout
    A simple HTML website not works anymore. Because it is considered a static website but now this is the trends of dynamic website.

    Whatever products or services you're going to sell, you require a blog for self promotion. Therefore when you posses a blog you might not want to disable it's comment section. Since comments are a great way to communicate with your audience and get feedback from them. This is only possible if you build your website by using a CMS or custom PHP.

    There are more other advantages of using CMS instead of a HTML website. I'd recommend you to either use a CMS or custom PHP in order to build your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author ChristoFouche
      Hi Rahul

      Maybe this will help you with the issue on adding pages like

      yoursite.com/landingpage

      If you don't want this to be part of your Wordpress structure, you can make a directory in the root folder called "landingpage", then include a file called index.html inside that folder. When you access the URL above, it will show up the index page which will be your landing page (or anything else).

      Hope this makes sense..

      Regards

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