Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words!

artwebster · 05-01-2009, 04:39 AM

I was looking for some information and a site came up that looked as though it might be interesting.

I had just started reading when the web page greyed out and I got a small message telling me that this was an Unblockable Pop Powered by MaxBlogPress.

I'm not sure what the Pop up was supposed to do but it was blocked by IE8 and it stopped me getting any information from the web site.

I hope the site owner didn't pay for it!

Traffic-Bug · 05-01-2009, 04:56 AM

I believe the browser has in-built protections to block unwanted popups on its own. if it were not, choose another browser.

Intrepreneur · 05-01-2009, 06:14 AM

afellow warrior has one on his salespage and its just so tacky, you don't even get to read the headline and then pops up a big ugly unblockable popup. I think it's stupid.

Ben14864 · 05-01-2009, 06:19 AM

I agree it's pretty annoying you do even get to read the info when they jump and block everything...

jasonl70 · 05-01-2009, 07:12 AM

i think the message WAS the pop up

unblockable pop-ups are just simulated via css and some javascript, and are immune to
any pop-up blocker. But they do require javascript, and I understand some people with firefox have it turned off (why anyone would ever turn off javascript is beyond me).

radhika · 05-01-2009, 09:35 AM

First of all pop-ups are very annoying to the visitors. I don't undestand why still people use it after knowing the fact that many use pop-up blockers.

Recently I went to a free icons web site. Somehow my IE couldn't block theose pop-ups. And they were popping like popcorn. I had to close the browser. When Ised to have Norton, it was blocking good. But changed to Avast, I am using browser functionality.

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Dan C. Rinnert · 05-01-2009, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonl70

why anyone would ever turn off javascript is beyond me

Viruses and malware. Javascript can be used to get nasty stuff on your computer without user intervention, sometimes without user knowledge at all.

I frequently turn off Javascript when visiting suspicious or unknown sites.

Sandor Verebi · 05-01-2009, 12:06 PM

This kind of 'selling weapon' is really annoying. When I can see only the pop up -- instead of the interesting content -- I'm clicking away for ever.

Does the owner of the webpage not think that with this stupid popup he loses many visiting and maybe customer, too?

Achilles1963 · 05-01-2009, 12:33 PM

Yeah, I think that definately falls under the category of morally repugnant

artwebster · 05-01-2009, 12:44 PM

I think the point has been missed here.

The unblockable pop up was blocked and - in being blocked - obscured the web site!

Sandor Verebi · 05-01-2009, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwebster

I think the point has been missed here.

The unblockable pop up was blocked and - in being blocked - obscured the web site!

Yeah Art,

I understand what you say. (Btw I tried to connect to radhikas' post)

You were lucky this time, but -- as I experienced -- the producers of popups are inventive, too.

Take care,

Sandor

MikeAmbrosio · 05-01-2009, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radhika

First of all pop-ups are very annoying to the visitors. I don't undestand why still people use it after knowing the fact that many use pop-up blockers.

Believe it or not - they are still used because they are still effective.

But they are MORE effective when used properly, and work better outside the IM niche.

I have a site in a niche where my optin rate is crazy high from the popup I use.

Course, it could be what I give away...but it converts better than the optin form on the page does.

Mike

MikeAmbrosio · 05-01-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwebster

I was looking for some information and a site came up that looked as though it might be interesting.

I had just started reading when the web page greyed out and I got a small message telling me that this was an Unblockable Pop Powered by MaxBlogPress.

I'm not sure what the Pop up was supposed to do but it was blocked by IE8 and it stopped me getting any information from the web site.

I hope the site owner didn't pay for it!

IE8 is probably a lot newer than the software - which would probably need to be updated now. I just had IE8 installed on my computer so I am interested to see how effective it is.

Mike

Michael Oksa · 05-01-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

Believe it or not - they are still used because they are still effective.

But they are MORE effective when used properly, and work better outside the IM niche.

I have a site in a niche where my optin rate is crazy high from the popup I use.

Course, it could be what I give away...but it converts better than the optin form on the page does.

Mike

Echoes my sentiments exactly.

Just about any tool we, as marketers, use can be used effectively, or in a way that makes people never want to do business with you again whatsoever.

Can they be effective? That's the same reason why there are still infomercials, telemarketers, and spam.

All the best,
Michael

jasonl70 · 05-01-2009, 01:42 PM

if it was the typical unblockable pop up, I don't think it was blocked but rather that it malfunctioned.. since they are not really popups, there are no windows events for a popup blocker to actually block.

If a broswer blocked a css 'pop-up', it would also block drop down menus, etc, since it uses the same type of code (which is simply toggling the 'display' attribute of a css layer).

regarding why people use them: because they can still work like gang-busters.

cool · 05-29-2009, 04:58 AM

Hi which pop ups do you use ?

05-01-2009, 04:39 AM	#1
artwebster Brutal honesty's me Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Coín, Spain Posts: 1,032 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 33 Thanked 251 Times in 138 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words! I was looking for some information and a site came up that looked as though it might be interesting. I had just started reading when the web page greyed out and I got a small message telling me that this was an Unblockable Pop Powered by MaxBlogPress. I'm not sure what the Pop up was supposed to do but it was blocked by IE8 and it stopped me getting any information from the web site. I hope the site owner didn't pay for it!
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05-01-2009, 09:35 AM	#6
radhika Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Jamaica. Posts: 2,405 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 71 Thanked 135 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words! First of all pop-ups are very annoying to the visitors. I don't undestand why still people use it after knowing the fact that many use pop-up blockers. Recently I went to a free icons web site. Somehow my IE couldn't block theose pop-ups. And they were popping like popcorn. I had to close the browser. When Ised to have Norton, it was blocking good. But changed to Avast, I am using browser functionality. .
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Sandor Verebi Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 1,320 Thanks: 214 Thanked 217 Times in 156 Posts	Re: Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words! This kind of 'selling weapon' is really annoying. When I can see only the pop up -- instead of the interesting content -- I'm clicking away for ever. Does the owner of the webpage not think that with this stupid popup he loses many visiting and maybe customer, too?

05-01-2009, 12:33 PM	#9
Achilles1963 Achilles1963 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 105 Thanks: 129 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts Contact Info	Re: Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words! Yeah, I think that definately falls under the category of morally repugnant

05-01-2009, 12:44 PM	#10
artwebster Brutal honesty's me Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Coín, Spain Posts: 1,032 Blog Entries: 4 Thanks: 33 Thanked 251 Times in 138 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words! I think the point has been missed here. The unblockable pop up *was blocked* and - in being blocked - obscured the web site!
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jasonl70 Software Developer War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ohio , USA. Posts: 2,273 Thanks: 416 Thanked 408 Times in 250 Posts	Re: Unblockable Pop? That's just too funny for words! if it was the typical unblockable pop up, I don't think it was blocked but rather that it malfunctioned.. since they are not really popups, there are no windows events for a popup blocker to actually block. If a broswer blocked a css 'pop-up', it would also block drop down menus, etc, since it uses the same type of code (which is simply toggling the 'display' attribute of a css layer). regarding why people use them: because they can still work like gang-busters.
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05-29-2009, 04:58 AM	#16
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