This is how you get SCAMMED online!

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STOP AND THINK!
STOP AND THINK!
STOP AND THINK!
STOP AND THINK!
STOP AND THINK!
STOP AND THINK!
STOP AND THINK!

How many of the above example have you seen so far? Hundreds, right?

What if I told you there are numerous threads on marketing forums that teaches you exactly how you can scam people out of their money by selling them a pipe-dream. Complete guides that teaches you the Psychological triggers to use, how to setup a salespage (Like the above) to trick innocent people out of their money.

They will even do it in a way, so you thank them for 600 pages of useless information that they probably put together from 50 different sources to have a product of their own.

Exact copy/paste from the scamming guide:
There is another angle. A person who is reading a PDF file that he paid $47 bucks for is paying attention. You have a captive audience, so make a sales pitch. Tell him that he can raise his earnings “up a notch,” or “take it to the next level” or some other bullshit phrase that sounds good. Then offer him some other stuff. Make sure your pitch about his imaginary wealth takes it to the next level, too, so he thinks he is going to get even richer than before.
(Do any "OTO's" come to mind?)

Just ONE of these scamming guides has been read by more than 110,000 people. How many dishonest people do you think are among these, that would actually put it to use?

This Forum is visited by tens of thousands of people every single day. It's a great place for scammers to lurk around - Be cautious what you buy into, not everything is what it seems to be.

I have recognized far too many of the examples I just made above, even here on WF.

This is in no-way discrediting any of the current WSO's that are built up in this way. Simply a friendly tip for anyone out there looking to get into IM. Be very cautious what you buy into. Always get as much information as possible about the product you're going to purchase. If the information is vague, it's usually not a good sign.

I spent 10 minutes, making the ad above. If I had spent a bit longer, removed the sarcasm and the obvious joke-text. I would have an A+ ad that hundreds of people would fall into immediately.
#internet marketing #online #scammed
  • Profile picture of the author manson911
    I have seen many scams like that, funny thing today just by accident I asked my Mom what was she doing, she said I am purchasing a guide how to earn 5000 months. Well it was pure luck i was there to stop.

    Moral of the story, in my country we have different languages so we did not have scam like that only until recently, now scams like this you can find in every language. It scares me how older people fall for this.

    p.s. It was very similiar site to the one you have made, because they all similar, happy people, photo of checks, bank accounts with huge amount money and so on.
  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    There are scams in every form of life. Internet Marketing is just one of them. Most scams rely on those who are vulnerable or naive. Think with your head and not with your heart. Use common sense and you should be fine.
    • Profile picture of the author bluebagger
      Where is the buy button?.....lol
    • Profile picture of the author serryjw
      Use common sense and you should be fine.
      I just don't understand HOW anyone can fall for this. Is it REALLY that easy to make $500K/annually?
      Anyone watch American Greed on CNBC? How do intelligent, educated people fall for these scams.? They break EVER rule of investing.
    • Profile picture of the author hsbinmarket
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      There are scams in every form of life. Internet Marketing is just one of them. Most scams rely on those who are vulnerable or naive. Think with your head and not with your heart. Use common sense and you should be fine.
      Red lines carry real meaning and encouraging for all, who feel fear to move in the field of IM. Thanks
  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    Common sense is all you need.
  • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
    Nice work lol. I'm really enjoying the "WSO", maybe I might even buy it!

    However, scams and unsubstantiated claims have been made....forever. It's just that with the opening up of the internet to the public in the last 25 years, it just gives people another avenue to scam.

    Unfortunately, there will always be gullible people, who don't use their processing centers (brains) to actually parse out whether the info is true or now.

    Just how life is
  • Profile picture of the author FortyNick
    From my point of view, WF should heavily clean up their WSO section.

    Perhaps implement some sort of product quality check, before WSO's are launched.

    For those of us with an ACTUAL product, it's impossible to use "white-hat" marketing techniques, because every other thread is promising away millions (which people fall for), so when you have a real opportunity, and you don't want to mislead your customers, it won't shine through in the jungle of promising millionaire makers.

    If John Doe wants to get into marketing and he's presenting with 30 offers promoting him to copy/paste methods that made other people 50,000$ in a month. And a single one with a realistic promise. He will still pick one of the 30 others, because greed makes John naive. So once he finds out that doesn't work, John will try out maybe 5 other millionaire-makers before he finally gives up. Leaving any real opportunities left behind.
    • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
      Originally Posted by FortyNick View Post

      From my point of view, WF should heavily clean up their WSO section.

      Perhaps implement some sort of product quality check, before WSO's are launched.

      For those of us with an ACTUAL product, it's impossible to use "white-hat" marketing techniques, because every other thread is promising away millions (which people fall for), so when you have a real opportunity, and you don't want to mislead your customers, it won't shine through in the jungle of promising millionaire makers.

      If John Doe wants to get into marketing and he's presenting with 30 offers promoting him to copy/paste methods that made other people 50,000$ in a month. And a single one with a realistic promise. He will still pick one of the 30 others, because greed makes John naive. So once he finds out that doesn't work, John will try out maybe 5 other millionaire-makers before he finally gives up. Leaving any real opportunities left behind.
      I think the Warrior Forum should implement a rating system for all WSO's.

      They could make it so that only product purchasers could rate the WSO.

      I'm thinking it could have a few variables:

      The product delivered on its promise. [Rate 1 to 10]
      The product provided real value. [Rate 1 to 10]
      I am satisfied with my purchase overall. [Rate 1 to 10]

      Etc.

      I don't know how they would implement this, but it could definitely clean up the WSO section and prevent a LOT of scams from going on for very long. They could also set it up like Amazon reviews where you can read specific reviews and see how many people rated it at 1 star, 2 stars, 3, etc.
    • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
      Originally Posted by FortyNick View Post

      From my point of view, WF should heavily clean up their WSO section.

      Perhaps implement some sort of product quality check, before WSO's are launched.

      For those of us with an ACTUAL product, it's impossible to use "white-hat" marketing techniques, because every other thread is promising away millions (which people fall for), so when you have a real opportunity, and you don't want to mislead your customers, it won't shine through in the jungle of promising millionaire makers.

      If John Doe wants to get into marketing and he's presenting with 30 offers promoting him to copy/paste methods that made other people 50,000$ in a month. And a single one with a realistic promise. He will still pick one of the 30 others, because greed makes John naive. So once he finds out that doesn't work, John will try out maybe 5 other millionaire-makers before he finally gives up. Leaving any real opportunities left behind.
      Quite interesting to so so many new internet marketers thinking IM/Online business is some magic ATM they can cash out whenever they want. Probably from all the hyped up claims...no work $100 in 5 days!!!

      Most don't realize that online businesses carry risk and reward as real businesses as well. (he who sows abundantly reaps abundantly.) There are some who make a big break though but in general most take some time with the learning curve.

      Too many people are looking for the quick buck and run for all the hyped up, shiny sales page still.
  • Profile picture of the author FortyNick
    Absolutely.

    WF should do thorough checks of products that are going to be featured in the WSO.

    If any claims are made, these claims must be evaluated if they are realistic based on the business model presented.

    Titles and ads should be cleaned up to only show and tell exactly what the product is.

    Not a title like [WSO OF THE DAY] I MADE $300,000 LAST MONTH, HERE'S MY SYSTEM.

    Well, guys. Nobody makes $300,000 without already having been in the business for years and having built a huge list/product already. Even if that person gives out his exact methods, they would be no where near replicable for 99,99% of the buyers.
    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by FortyNick View Post

      Absolutely.

      WF should do thorough checks of products that are going to be featured in the WSO.

      If any claims are made, these claims must be evaluated if they are realistic based on the business model presented.

      Titles and ads should be cleaned up to only show and tell exactly what the product is.

      Not a title like [WSO OF THE DAY] I MADE $300,000 LAST MONTH, HERE'S MY SYSTEM.

      Well, guys. Nobody makes $300,000 without already having been in the business for years and having built a huge list/product already. Even if that person gives out his exact methods, they would be no where near replicable for 99,99% of the buyers.
      It would be near impossible for the WF mods to check every product before it went on sale.

      Though another forum I visit has a rule that any make money systems must be backed up with a video showing the system in action and actually working....it has next to no make money products listed in it and a ton of SEO / link building and other services instead.
  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    People fall for scams all the time, just look at who's in the White House right now. His whole campaign was a walking talking squeeze page.

    Anyway, back on topic ... It doesn't necessarily make something a scam simply because they use this style of copywriting. The scammers didn't invent the "squeeze page", they simply took what worked and used it to perpetuate their scams. The fact is the message resonates with a lot of people, because those of us who have found success online have likely gone through a ton of failures before getting there, and those of us who haven't would love to have access to the mind of someone who's "been there" and skip all of that trial and error. There are two ways to make money in this world ... you can monetize your labor, or you can monetize your knowledge. I try constantly to teach this to web designers, because they all have a tendency to charge for their time but not for the knowledge they have acquired.

    The wealthiest people in the world are wealthy because they KNOW things other people don't, not because they're sitting there "doing the work". But not everyone is at that point in their career path yet, so their only way to make an income is to monetize their labor, and that's where the perfect blend of teacher and student come together and win. Those who feel more comfortable monetizing their labor can do so by getting access to the knowledge of someone who's already been there.

    Knocking the pitch style simply because it's "also used by scammers" is like saying you shouldn't use PayPal because scammers also use PayPal to launder money. The key is to do your homework, and look at WHO is posting. If Donald Trump wrote a book revealing the secret formula he uses to buy commercial real estate and flip it for a profit, people would listen, because they know he's done it successfully.
    • Profile picture of the author serryjw
      His whole campaign was a walking talking squeeze page.
      I was taking a sip of soda when I read this...The soda is all over my desk!
  • Profile picture of the author RosuC
    The problem is that the honest sellers are not taking in consideration just because they're not capable to offer the "miracles" as all the fake one are giving.
    I have the same problem in trying to explain to others that there are no miracle neither in Software, neither in Real Estate and, of course, neither in REAL LIFE.
    Thank you for this post but still will be few that will read and will be fewer that will take a lesson from it. We're all running for the Mermaids and we're hoping that they will kiss us )))
  • Profile picture of the author FortyNick
    I see what you're saying Ron - and I never said that just because people are using this setup to build an ad, it means they are scammers.

    I however think, if you're a serious seller, with a serious product, you should focus on selling the actual product and not the promise of getting rich beyond reality. That's where most scammers are filtered out.
  • Profile picture of the author RockNRolla
    Haha, nice work breaking down the good old fashioned sales page there. I especially like the picture of the guy standing next to someone else's Ferrari!
    • Profile picture of the author cyberma
      I got scammed a few times too. Last time it was with empower network. But it is not because I am silly . I wanted to give it a try and especially learn something new. I fully understand that there are no easy money.

      I also got scammed while selling a physical product abroad. And the worst part of that - no one was willing to help me - post office, police, they just let it go. Some experiences seem to be way too expensive.

      I love one WSO in this forum, where you need to pay $100 just to learn how much will the personal coaching be What in a world is that? And the explanation is to separate those active and willing to move to the next level and to higher earnings. OMG!
  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by FortyNick View Post

    What if I told you there are numerous threads on marketing forums that teaches you exactly how you can scam people out of their money by selling them a pipe-dream.
  • Profile picture of the author preets
    The world is full of scams. But the truth is that when you go for genuine products there are no sale. I am from India and skin color is very important in our country. So there is a huge market of products which makes skin fairer. These advertisements are so hyped that despite the known truth people buy them madly. But what if these companies say that there is no magic but yes these products will keep your skin nourished and good looking. I bet, there will hardly be any sales to even get them at their break even point.

    There are lot of WSO's which are hyped and have good sales (100s of copies first day). But there are genuine WSO's also whose sales copy does not claim any hyped unbelievable promises have either no or very low sale.

    So I think the author is forced to make a hyped sales copy to get their sales. But this way the genuine ones are the most affected.

    Preeti
    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
      The word "scam" is used far too broadly these days, and I wonder about the intelligence levels of those who cry "scam" at any given opportunity:

      WSO hasn't worked for me . . . scam!
      Mentor didn't make me money . . . scam!
      MLM returned nothing . . . scam!
      Free Traffic system a waste of time . . . scam!

      You get the picture. And it's the same offline:

      Plumber left the tap leaking . . . scam!
      Mechanic sold me a faulty car . . . scam!
      Builder left my wall wonky . . . scam!
      Wrinkle cream didn't work . . . scam!


      Listen up people. The majority of these are not scams at all, it's called LIFE. People have offered goods and services since time immemorial and there has always been fair goods and services, and crap goods and services. It's up to each individual to use due diligence before opting for either, and as human beings are the most advanced creatures on the planet with the ability to think and reason, why don't you simply USE YOUR BRAIN.

      There are two types of sellers:

      * Honest sellers
      * Dishonest sellers

      There are two types of buyers:

      * Smart buyers
      * Foolish buyers

      Do the maths. There are only four possible outcomes. Here's the preschool explanation for those who still don't get it . . .

      Honest seller meets smart buyer = no problem
      Honest seller meets foolish buyer = no problem
      Dishonest seller meets smart buyer = no problem
      Dishonest seller meets foolish buyer = PROBLEM

      So what does this tell you?

      It tells you that it's not the honest seller, the dishonest seller, or the smart buyer that's the problem. It's the FOOLISH BUYER.

      Without foolish buyers the dishonest seller has no-one to sell to. Without foolish buyers the dishonest seller wouldn't exist. But as long as there are foolish buyers, dishonest sellers will flourish.

      It's far easier to educate foolish buyers than eradicate dishonest sellers. Unfortunately that's not going to happen. As long as there's still a good quota of stupid, single braincell fools who dive unprotected into shark infested waters, there will be sharks there to eat them.

      If you've been scammed don't look to the WF for support, and don't look to government or law enforcement agencies either. None of these can ever change what's happened or fully prevent it happening again in the future. That's a fact.

      Instead, look in the mirror. There you'll find the only person in the whole world who can GUARANTEE you'll never be scammed again.
  • Profile picture of the author Valdor Kiebach


    Sorry I couldnt resist it.
    • Profile picture of the author Ilan Finer
      Originally Posted by Valdor Kiebach View Post



      Sorry I couldnt resist it.
      Hehehe... love it!

      You know why people get scammed online, it's because they are greedy and want to get rich fast, don't realize that it's a business...
  • Profile picture of the author mckennabrowny
    Wait, where is the buy button? I think this is the one.
  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by FortyNick View Post

    I spent 10 minutes, making the ad above. If I had spent a bit longer, removed the sarcasm and the obvious joke-text. I would have an A+ ad that hundreds of people would fall into immediately.
    Serious question: Do you have any resources where an artistically-challenged guy like myself can learn enough graphic design to make a sales page like the one you've shown here?

    Not to scam people of course, but to sell real products.
    • Profile picture of the author FortyNick
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      Serious question: Do you have any resources where an artistically-challenged guy like myself can learn enough graphic design to make a sales page like the one you've shown here?

      Not to scam people of course, but to sell real products.
      I'm a graphic designer myself and my advice for anyone who not already has a flair for design, don't start.

      Graphic design is so much more than just being able to use a program like photoshop/illustrator. You need to know colours, layouts etc. Nothing that you can easily teach yourself over a few courses to fully understand.

      There's a reason why it takes several years to become a designer, some have it in them and others simply don't. If you don't, you should rather hire a professional that knows what he's doing.

      You might be good off using a pre-made template, but I'm not sure where you would find such for salespages.

      Feel free to contact me directly if you have any other questions
    • Profile picture of the author dpwilliams
      Originally Posted by Curtis2011 View Post

      Serious question: Do you have any resources where an artistically-challenged guy like myself can learn enough graphic design to make a sales page like the one you've shown here?

      Not to scam people of course, but to sell real products.
      Hello Curtis...

      There are some really cool plugins available now to create sales pages like a pro...the one I use is InstaBuilder located here...
      InstaBuilder - Mobile-Ready Landing Pages in Minutes (not an affiliate link)

      Hope this helps...
      Deb
  • Profile picture of the author FortyNick
    @Horny Devil

    You have some valid points, but my clear oppinion is that everytime you have a dishonest seller = PROBLEM

    He just shouldn't be given the opportunity in the first place. Specially not in a place like WF where all WSO's are undergoing checks before they get up.

    Of course the WSO part of WF is a huge moneymaker for the owners, but letting too much crap pass, will slowly destroy the quality of this forum.
    • Profile picture of the author marketingva
      Originally Posted by FortyNick View Post

      @Horny Devil

      He just shouldn't be given the opportunity in the first place. Specially not in a place like WF where all WSO's are undergoing checks before they get up.
      FortyNick,

      I think you are confused. The WSO section is an advertising section and offers are not vetted before going live. Do you expect your newspaper or favorite magazine to review every single thing being sold before accepting the money?

      Bonnie
  • Profile picture of the author GaryCarlyle
    this made my laugh hard. What font it is? Ironically I want to use it for my WSO but mine is an actual product I had coded. Rather than some training course I invented that would only ever make me money.
  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Lol, that sales page pretty much sums it up, you left out his friends posting things like " YOU MUST BE OUT YOUR MIND FOR SELLING THIS AT SUCH A LOW PRICE, RAISE THE PRICE " or " Joe Blow has done it again "

  • Profile picture of the author MaxTheMarketer
    Haha I love when humor can enter the world of internet marketing, because I really "get it" and it is sad when many people fall for this, the quick-fixes.

    This is also a fine line for me to walk, and for all us doing marketing; how do we balance what results the use of our products can really deliver and not? (I've touched on this issue in another thread long ago)

    However, I love the humor and I would also say; "A 100 % GUARANTEE TO MAKE YOU FEEL SAFER ABOUT YOUR STUPID DECISION YOU ARE ABOUT TO DO DUE TO PERSONAL IMPULSIVE ISSUES. THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR WASTING YOUR MONEY ONE ME" (only pun-intended, joke intended, no offense to any marketer using guarantee-technique).

    Take Care & Have An Awesome Day, Dear Warriors! / Max "MaxTheMarketer" K.
  • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
    That's an awful lot of work just to whine about the same thing that many others have already whined about. There's the door...don't let it hit you on the ass on your way out.

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