Help with recruiting please!

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Im with a company that has an amazing product and an even better comp plan. However, i only have 38 personals and 180 in my downline. I mean im making money. I would like more people to make money too. I know there is alot of people who know how to do this better than me and im asking for some help.
My goal is to get at least 50 personals. Then start working on helping them out. I'm stuck! Please help:confused:
#mlm #money #recruiting
  • Profile picture of the author TheCren
    You should try explaining what exactly you're doing. From what you wrote, I can tell it's MLM, but that's very vague. Why should I be interested? What are you selling? What's in it for me?
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Well I didnt want to directly advertise. I was wanting tips and tricks. But the website is in my signature. They have been doing pretty well. And i have been doing decent. but i would like to do better and help more people do better. Im trying to be a leader
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

    Im with a company that has an amazing product and an even better comp plan. However, i only have 38 personals and 180 in my downline. I mean im making money. I would like more people to make money too. I know there is alot of people who know how to do this better than me and im asking for some help.
    My goal is to get at least 50 personals. Then start working on helping them out. I'm stuck! Please help:confused:
    Like Cren said, it sounds like you're involved in an MLM program.

    You don't need help recruiting more personals. I've been involved
    with MLM for more than 30 years and I know many people earning
    mid 5 figure (and up) monthly incomes with fewer personals than
    you have.

    What you need to do is start developing leaders from the personals
    you already have.

    Tsnyder
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Well how do i get or develop leaders? I have tried everything i know. This is my first MLM and I thought i was doing decent. I would like to make more money though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

        Well how do i get or develop leaders? I have tried everything i know. This is my first MLM and I thought i was doing decent. I would like to make more money though.
        You develop leaders by first finding people who want to become
        leaders. They demonstrate that desire by their actions.

        Your numbers are 38 personals and 180 downline. The key to
        success in MLM is duplication. I know you've probably heard that
        but many in MLM don't truly understand its meaning.

        I don't want people to duplicate who I am... they can't. I don't
        want people to duplicate my knowledge or skill... most can't.

        I want them to duplicate what I DO... and teach others to DO
        the same. Duplicate the process.

        Those who want to become leaders will have certain qualities.

        You're looking for people with above average desire to succeed.

        You're looking for people who are willing to learn without questioning
        every step of the process or trying to improvise their own methods.

        You're looking for people who are motivated by the desire to serve
        others... not just money.

        How many of those 180 have sponsored 5 or more personals and
        have 10 or more downline?

        Focus on those people if they demonstrate the desire and willingness to learn.

        Work your way upline to find an established leader who is willing to work
        with you on developing more downline leaders. With 38 personals and 180
        downline someone upline should already be calling you to see how they can
        help you accelerate your business.

        If I saw those numbers on my genealogy report I'd be on the phone
        to you by 8:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. Actually, I'd have called you
        long before now... lol

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        • Profile picture of the author duality32
          Yeah I do pretty well with creating a downline. However, sign up is free. Which is kind of the hard part of getting people to buy in. However, i think its a great idea because it gets you leads without any attachments for them. So you can call them up, explain what its about, then go from there. I have received calls from my upline. I have a very good mentor. Dennis Cancelli. Who has done VERY well in MLM. However, im one to try things on my own. He has helped alot and has offered alot of information. Im just too stubborn to take it. Thats why im asking on here. Im finally ready to become serious with this program. I believe, in my head and heart, that this will go somewhere. Im pretty sure that this will be the next Herbalife. Eventually. Most think within the year it will have a great start. But like i said before, the launch isnt for a couple more months. So im trying to fast track getting people in and going before it launches to the world.
          Sometimes i have a hard time trying to get motivated to work this. Because i am a very impatient person. Also, i have several people are are doing GREAT. I have given them my materials and got a few of them to duplicate me. One of the people i got in last week already has 17 personals. This thing is starting to fly. But i want more leaders. And ways on how to train them.
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            • Profile picture of the author duality32
              Originally Posted by blfred View Post

              Which is why it's a terrible idea. By not paying anything at all to get in they have demonstrated no commitment what so ever to your process. They have nothing to lose by not taking any action. Even when people do have skin in the game so to speak, the majority still do nothing.

              I did an MLM several years ago that had two options, one that would let people in for free, the other that came with a bit more payments and training was a few hundred dollars. With out exception every single person who signed up for free (thinking well, when I sign a few people up and make some money, then I will pay), never generated a nickle for me. I just wasted my time trying to motivate them and get them going.
              Well i tell them this. That if they dont become active by paying in, then they arent going to make any money. Because thats how it is. The free sign up is so that they can see that things are really going on here. So that at one point they will decide to do something or not
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

        Well how do i get or develop leaders? I have tried everything i know. This is my first MLM and I thought i was doing decent. I would like to make more money though.
        You want to really fly? Increase retail sales.

        The key to making it really big is not just sponsoring, but having a solid profitable customer base as well. If you double your sales, and get everyone else to do the same, now you're moving more product with no extra sponsoring. Imagine what that will do to your comission check.
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        • Profile picture of the author duality32
          Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

          You want to really fly? Increase retail sales.

          The key to making it really big is not just sponsoring, but having a solid profitable customer base as well. If you double your sales, and get everyone else to do the same, now you're moving more product with no extra sponsoring. Imagine what that will do to your comission check.

          So by increasing retail sales, do you mean drop the price? Or what are you getting at here
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          • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
            Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

            So by increasing retail sales, do you mean drop the price? Or what are you getting at here
            Get more customers, and sell more product. It's as simple as that.

            Build your retail end so it's making $500 profit each and every month. Now just go out and look for people who want to make the same kind of money. Since you're doing it, you can teach them to do the same.

            Get about a dozen of those in your downline, and now you're making a nice check each month (they do pay comissions, right). And you have the confidence and creditibility to motivate your group to do the same, plus find new people who want to do what you're doing.

            Get it now? Retail + sponsoring = MLM empire
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            • Profile picture of the author duality32
              Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

              Get more customers, and sell more product. It's as simple as that.

              Build your retail end so it's making $500 profit each and every month. Now just go out and look for people who want to make the same kind of money. Since you're doing it, you can teach them to do the same.

              Get about a dozen of those in your downline, and now you're making a nice check each month (they do pay comissions, right). And you have the confidence and creditibility to motivate your group to do the same, plus find new people who want to do what you're doing.

              Get it now? Retail + sponsoring = MLM empire
              We have 4 different kinds of pay for this program. Yes commission amongst other great bonuses. But yeah it sounds great. But like i said before. I live in a town of 300 people and its hard to get people to talk to me directly that i think would do great at this
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              • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
                Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

                We have 4 different kinds of pay for this program. Yes commission amongst other great bonuses. But yeah it sounds great. But like i said before. I live in a town of 300 people and its hard to get people to talk to me directly that i think would do great at this
                So just make them customers. Think you can do that?
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                • Profile picture of the author duality32
                  Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

                  So just make them customers. Think you can do that?
                  Im sure now I can do whatever i want to do you guys really are great. However i would still like to get people that are good at marketing. Because the opportunity is so awesome
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                  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
                    Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

                    Im sure now I can do whatever i want to do you guys really are great. However i would still like to get people that are good at marketing. Because the opportunity is so awesome
                    You try that angle, and I guarantee you're going to go nowhere.

                    If you don't build on a base of solid retail sales, and just go out and focus on sponsoring, all you have is a glorified ponzi scheme where only the people at the top are making any money at all. You may get some success for a time, but it's going to implode, and people will get hurt.

                    Getting retail up to speed does two things for you:

                    1. Creates a believable story, which makes it easy to sponsor others who want to make some extra money from their homes.

                    2. Generates money so you can invest in something called gasoline for your car, so you can reach out and find these people.

                    Do you see how this works now?
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                    • Profile picture of the author duality32
                      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

                      You try that angle, and I guarantee you're going to go nowhere.

                      If you don't build on a base of solid retail sales, and just go out and focus on sponsoring, all you have is a glorified ponzi scheme where only the people at the top are making any money at all. You may get some success for a time, but it's going to implode, and people will get hurt.

                      Getting retail up to speed does two things for you:

                      1. Creates a believable story, which makes it easy to sponsor others who want to make some extra money from their homes.

                      2. Generates money so you can invest in something called gasoline for your car, so you can reach out and find these people.

                      Do you see how this works now?
                      I dont see how you can say its a ponzi scheme when the product actually works.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
                        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

                        I dont see how you can say its a ponzi scheme when the product actually works.
                        Because a lot of Ponzi schemes had products that worked.

                        The value of the product isn't anywhere near the determining
                        factor in regulators deciding to prosecute companies as Ponzi
                        schemes.

                        Don't even ask... the subject is far too long and complicated
                        for me to explain it in a forum post.

                        Tsnyder
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                        • Profile picture of the author duality32
                          Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

                          Because a lot of Ponzi schemes had products that worked.

                          The value of the product isn't anywhere near the determining
                          factor in regulators deciding to prosecute companies as Ponzi
                          schemes.

                          Don't even ask... the subject is far too long and complicated
                          for me to explain it in a forum post.

                          Tsnyder
                          then maybe PM me? Cuz i would like to know what your talking about
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                      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
                        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

                        I dont see how you can say its a ponzi scheme when the product actually works.
                        Lol, let me see if I can rephrase this so you understand what I'm saying.

                        I never said your busop was a ponzi scheme. All I said was if you don't build it right (that means your and your downline have a solid retail base), you will have a glorified ponzi scheme.

                        Build it right, and you'll be the mac daddy in your MLM. Understand now?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Okay...

    So what you're saying is that you've had 38 people sign
    up for a free deal. That's not a downline... that's a lead
    list.

    Have any of them actually purchased product more than once yet?

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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      I have 12 people that have bought. And 3 of those are doing a great job of building so far
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Oh... and if you have a successful, experienced upline leader
    willing to help you build a business stop being a doofus and start
    paying attention to what they're teaching you.

    There's a process that leads to success in this business.

    Duplicate that process or be prepared to be frustrated for many years.

    Tsnyder
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Then you need to do two things right away...

    First... contact that upline leader and ask for his help.
    Second... start working with those 3 people.

    Tsnyder
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      I have called them. They have done 3 ways with us. Also we have a call tonight. And I always urge my downline to get on the calls with the corporate people. It seems to help them alot too. But im also looking for new people, and i think i have exhausted what i know how to do. i want to learn how to do some new things to get more leaders and more downline
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    google search katie freiling, daegan smith, and jonathan budd, they are all 80k a month earners in mlm, I am sure they will the the answers to any question you have
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

      google search katie freiling, daegan smith, and jonathan budd, they are all 80k a month earners in mlm, I am sure they will the the answers to any question you have
      Will they actually talk to me though? My upline, Dennis Canceli, has made over 100k a month in his previous MLM. He was the one who got me into this. He went into retirement 8 years ago and came out of it for this program. So that says something to me
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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

        Will they actually talk to me though? My upline, Dennis Canceli, has made over 100k a month in his previous MLM. He was the one who got me into this. He went into retirement 8 years ago and came out of it for this program. So that says something to me
        If your upline has had that kind of success forget the gurus
        and start bugging the hell out of him. Pick his brain on a daily
        basis.

        If you want to contact a guru I'd also toss Mike Dillard's
        name into the mix but my best advice is to become your
        upline's shadow until you reach the level of success you desire.

        Stop looking for magic from strangers... you have someone who's
        more than qualified to teach you what you need to know.

        Tsnyder
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        • Profile picture of the author duality32
          Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

          If your upline has had that kind of success forget the gurus
          and start bugging the hell out of him. Pick his brain on a daily
          basis.

          If you want to contact a guru I'd also toss Mike Dillard's
          name into the mix but my best advice is to become your
          upline's shadow until you reach the level of success you desire.

          Stop looking for magic from strangers... you have someone who's
          more than qualified to teach you what you need to know.

          Tsnyder
          Well, Dennis does it old school. Going out there and doing it. I dont have the confidence to do it like that. I would like to build it. But i have had my leads and such online. He tells me all the time, get out there and do it. Get them on the phone, meet them for lunch. You know, those kind of things. But im not sure if they will work for me. Maybe for him, since he has done this for 22 years. Who knows:confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
            Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

            Well, Dennis does it old school. Going out there and doing it. I dont have the confidence to do it like that. I would like to build it. But i have had my leads and such online. He tells me all the time, get out there and do it. Get them on the phone, meet them for lunch. You know, those kind of things. But im not sure if they will work for me. Maybe for him, since he has done this for 22 years. Who knows:confused:
            You can do whatever you decide to do.

            On balance we have a guy who's had tremendous success and
            a guy who's working it for the first time who wants to do it his way.

            I can predict with great certainty how this will turn out.

            Best of luck to you.

            Tsnyder
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            • Profile picture of the author duality32
              Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

              You can do whatever you decide to do.

              On balance we have a guy who's had tremendous success and
              a guy who's working it for the first time who wants to do it his way.

              I can predict with great certainty how this will turn out.

              Best of luck to you.

              Tsnyder
              So your saying that i should do it the true and tried way? I think that might be the best option. However, i live in a town of 300 people so it gets kind of hard haha. On the other hand, i will need to learn how to talk to people and how to meet new people that might be interested. What methods would you recommend for this?
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      • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

        Will they actually talk to me though? My upline, Dennis Canceli, has made over 100k a month in his previous MLM. He was the one who got me into this. He went into retirement 8 years ago and came out of it for this program. So that says something to me
        yeah they will talk to you especially katie freiling, pm me I can get you her number if you want to call her, and chat about business
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  • Profile picture of the author TimG
    It has already been said in the previous postings but I'll mention it again. Spend your time separating the wheat from the chaff by focusing on the people that are showing signs of becoming a leader within your downline.

    By focusing on helping them grow their business your own business will grow and additional leaders will appear in your downline as it continues to grow.

    I recommend you read "The Wave 4 Way To Building Your Downline" by Richard Poe - great read and very helpful book for MLMs.

    Respectfully,
    Tim
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by TimG View Post

      It has already been said in the previous postings but I'll mention it again. Spend your time separating the wheat from the chaff by focusing on the people that are showing signs of becoming a leader within your downline.

      By focusing on helping them grow their business your own business will grow and additional leaders will appear in your downline as it continues to grow.

      I recommend you read "The Wave 4 Way To Building Your Downline" by Richard Poe - great read and very helpful book for MLMs.

      Respectfully,
      Tim
      How can i put these people into the categories of people who want to use it and people who want to move it. Some say that they want to move it, then never try. How can i motivate them and let them know that this is a great opportunity. I have showed them paychecks and gave their numbers to my uplines. And still nothing. Im stuck at this point:confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author TimG
        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

        How can i put these people into the categories of people who want to use it and people who want to move it. Some say that they want to move it, then never try. How can i motivate them and let them know that this is a great opportunity. I have showed them paychecks and gave their numbers to my uplines. And still nothing. Im stuck at this point:confused:
        No matter what MLM opportunity you promote if it involves a product you will have some that join in order to get the product for a discount and others that join to sell the product and still others that join to get the product and then decide to sell it.

        Sometimes you don't have to put the people in a category because they do that for you based on their actions. you will have buyers, downline builders and those that do nothing.

        Don't spend a huge amount of time with those that do nothing and focus on the downline builders. The buyers of the product you can approach about building the business because they are satisfied customers and can speak for the effectiveness of the product but may not know how to promote.

        The book I mention covers this information in depth and it will elp you build your MLM business.

        Tim
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        • Profile picture of the author duality32
          Originally Posted by TimG View Post

          No matter what MLM opportunity you promote if it involves a product you will have some that join in order to get the product for a discount and others that join to sell the product and still others that join to get the product and then decide to sell it.

          Sometimes you don't have to put the people in a category because they do that for you based on their actions. you will have buyers, downline builders and those that do nothing.

          Don't spend a huge amount of time with those that do nothing and focus on the downline builders. The buyers of the product you can approach about building the business because they are satisfied customers and can speak for the effectiveness of the product but may not know how to promote.

          The book I mention covers this information in depth and it will elp you build your MLM business.

          Tim
          Yeah. The good thing about the sign up process here is this. It gives you your uplines name and number so you can call them if you want. Plus gives me their email and name and number. So it helps alot when people do sign up that are on the fence
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    • Profile picture of the author malfumos
      All you need is to hire professionals to do it for yourself in less than two months.
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      • Profile picture of the author duality32
        Originally Posted by malfumos View Post

        All you need is to hire professionals to do it for yourself in less than two months.
        Are you being serious or pulling my leg haha
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  • Profile picture of the author petevamp
    Its going to be hard getting people to touch that one think of all the poeple that where involved in hydroxycut. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pull myself. Its way to hard to get people to join a program that sells and in order to make money you have to invite people to sell those products aswell. There is a fresh crowd coming in with the layoffs going on beause of the recession.

    Except these people are going to be looking to make money with out having to sell for now. They may ventrure to a product like that later but thats going to be in a few months from now if not years. So you need to target the fresh crowd first.

    Doing that increases your list and also will increase your sales later. So build your list first. Worry about the sales and signups later. If you are already making money start working on getting the ones you currently have to make money as well. This will be your true key to making money with mlm. Then when you are done with that program. Everyone you helped build there initail start up will follow you to the next.
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by petevamp View Post

      Its going to be hard getting people to touch that one think of all the poeple that where involved in hydroxycut. I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pull myself. Its way to hard to get people to join a program that sells and in order to make money you have to invite people to sell those products aswell. There is a fresh crowd coming in with the layoffs going on beause of the recession.

      Except these people are going to be looking to make money with out having to sell for now. They may ventrure to a product like that later but thats going to be in a few months from now if not years. So you need to target the fresh crowd first.

      Doing that increases your list and also will increase your sales later. So build your list first. Worry about the sales and signups later. If you are already making money start working on getting the ones you currently have to make money as well. This will be your true key to making money with mlm. Then when you are done with that program. Everyone you helped build there initail start up will follow you to the next.
      Well, this is a program that you can do two ways. Actually sell the product. Cuz there is a little bit of markup. But you can also do the marketing part by gettin people on your team. I understand about the Hydroxycut phenomenon. But I do believe that this will overtake that scene. Whether or not people believe me, this company will do well. It just needs more exposure. Which will come in July when it launches. Thats why they have all the free signups now, so people can see this action in work. We have people who have made $40,000 in the first 11 weeks. Which for me, is amazing. I havent made quiet that much. But im working towards it And you can see more progress daily
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      • Profile picture of the author duality32
        Originally Posted by dangmyun View Post

        This seems interesting to me.

        But, I want know more details about this business

        can someone explain what kind of business, and how

        to make money with????


        Happy day~^^
        Did you check out the website? This is a weight loss product that has been selling like crazy. Which is good for people who want to make money Also, it is very affordable and offers proven results, also, good for us
        Another thing, this is still in the prelaunch phase. And most people know that people that get into programs like this at the beginning seem to do pretty well. Im not saying you wont have to do anything with this. It will be hard work. Thats what alot of people dont get. They think money will be handed to them hand over fist for nothing. Ill tell you that you can get money handed to you like that in this program. But you have to put in the effort.
        If you have anymore questions feel free to ask
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  • Profile picture of the author duality32
    Well i messaged you man. everyone here is such a help
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      I'm going to give you another recommendation...

      Get yourself a copy of "The Greatest Networker in the World" and the follow-up, "Conversations With the Greatest Networker in the World", both by John Milton Fogg.

      Check out John's site at MLM Network Marketing Training .

      I haven't been a member there for a few years, but it was an amazing resource. John is an amazing coach and an amazing interviewer. If it's still there, look for an audio called "Where Do You Live?" where John demonstrates his techniques for getting people to open up to you.

      And if you run across John Himself, tell him Johnny Mac says hello...
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      • Profile picture of the author duality32
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        I'm going to give you another recommendation...

        Get yourself a copy of "The Greatest Networker in the World" and the follow-up, "Conversations With the Greatest Networker in the World", both by John Milton Fogg.

        Check out John's site at MLM Network Marketing Training .

        I haven't been a member there for a few years, but it was an amazing resource. John is an amazing coach and an amazing interviewer. If it's still there, look for an audio called "Where Do You Live?" where John demonstrates his techniques for getting people to open up to you.

        And if you run across John Himself, tell him Johnny Mac says hello...
        So you know him personally? Would he be willing to talk to me you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author duality32
    So i have worked on a couple people today. Got them to get really excited! Got 2 more personally sponsored members that are active now. Anything else that could help me help them?
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    • Profile picture of the author oleskool
      Another source that you might want to check out is Ann Seig's Renegade Network Marketer and MLM Attraction Marketing University with Ron Moore.

      You do need a system to use to build your team and these people have systems in place that seem to work if you follow them.

      I just read "How To Build A MLM Business" written by one of the Renegade Network Marketers follows and it does give you step by step guidelines. That help you and your people.
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  • Profile picture of the author duality32
    Where could i get a copy of that? And what system do you use?
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  • Profile picture of the author duality32
    Also, I would like to know how to help my personals make more money? Do I give them some of my referrals? Or what do I do?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Have you called that successful upline guy yet?

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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Have you called that successful upline guy yet?

      Tsnyder
      Yes I have. He was telling me to talk to you more about it as well. That you seem to know whats going on
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCren
    As with any business, you're going to have to be persistent and self-motivated. You seem to want someone to hold your hand throughout the entire process. It seems to me that there's nothing to it but to do it.

    You say you have trouble selling in a small town, but I think a small town would be much easier than a big city. You already know everyone so you can strike up conversation with anyone. I can't walk up to someone on the street and just start talking about a new biz opportunity in Pittsburgh or Atlanta (the cities I've spent most of my life in) - there has to be a bit of an awkward-at-first meeting, then convo sparks up, then we talk about life/work, and finally I invite them to share in a biz opp. It's not a science, but more of an art form for those skilled at it.

    This was very hard for me (as I imagine it is for you) when I was doing MLM. It was easy to talk candidly with my friends and my mom and get them to sign up. In a small town everyone is your friend or your mom. What the heck is your holdup??! Light a fire under your @$$ and get moving!

    Now on the retail end of things, you could boost your BV by selling more and getting your downline to do the same. That's another area of your business that the members of this forum can be a tremendous help. I know that much from experience.

    While Core4 looks like a pretty nice opportunity and I wish you the best, keep in mind that there are tons of private label vitamin retailers doing enormous volume already and the profit margin is likely greater than what you're seeing with Core4.
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by TheCren View Post

      As with any business, you're going to have to be persistent and self-motivated. You seem to want someone to hold your hand throughout the entire process. It seems to me that there's nothing to it but to do it.

      You say you have trouble selling in a small town, but I think a small town would be much easier than a big city. You already know everyone so you can strike up conversation with anyone. I can't walk up to someone on the street and just start talking about a new biz opportunity in Pittsburgh or Atlanta (the cities I've spent most of my life in) - there has to be a bit of an awkward-at-first meeting, then convo sparks up, then we talk about life/work, and finally I invite them to share in a biz opp. It's not a science, but more of an art form for those skilled at it.

      This was very hard for me (as I imagine it is for you) when I was doing MLM. It was easy to talk candidly with my friends and my mom and get them to sign up. In a small town everyone is your friend or your mom. What the heck is your holdup??! Light a fire under your @$$ and get moving!

      Now on the retail end of things, you could boost your BV by selling more and getting your downline to do the same. That's another area of your business that the members of this forum can be a tremendous help. I know that much from experience.

      While Core4 looks like a pretty nice opportunity and I wish you the best, keep in mind that there are tons of private label vitamin retailers doing enormous volume already and the profit margin is likely greater than what you're seeing with Core4.
      Well this company pays 60% of their revenue out. Im not sure if thats good or not. But I have been making a decent living. Like I said before, this is my first MLM ever. So im still kind of retarded in this business. I have been doing pretty good and have some good people. They just get motivated in spurts. They will do really well for awhile then they will drop off for a few weeks. Then hit it again.
      I want them to go at it all the time. But i know that is an unreasonable request to make. And people here have been a great help. And I hope that they continue to do so
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Is this MLM just internet based or are you having some sort of team meetings and things like that?
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

      Is this MLM just internet based or are you having some sort of team meetings and things like that?
      Most of it is internet based. But I have just started having team meetings. People are coming from 300 miles away to attend this meeting
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      • Profile picture of the author adriant
        No offense, but it looks like you are trying to promote
        your mlm program here...
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  • Profile picture of the author Wiley
    I just joined this forum you guys are great. I have just been reading this thread. I you guys have been a lot of help.
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  • Profile picture of the author anton343
    Sounds to me you are doing the right things maybe just expecting a little to much to soon. MLM like any other business can earn you decent money but you have to put the time and effort in which you seem to be doing.

    You say you live in a small town, how far away is the next town to you? get down there and do some advertising and sponsoring the same way you have in your home town.

    When I was in mlm I used to sponsor a couple of people in one area and then every week hold meetings for them so they could bring their friends along and help them to sign these up to their business which is ultimately yours. By teaching them the same methods you will strat to see some decent growth in your group

    All the best with your venture

    Anton
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by anton343 View Post

      Sounds to me you are doing the right things maybe just expecting a little to much to soon. MLM like any other business can earn you decent money but you have to put the time and effort in which you seem to be doing.

      You say you live in a small town, how far away is the next town to you? get down there and do some advertising and sponsoring the same way you have in your home town.

      When I was in mlm I used to sponsor a couple of people in one area and then every week hold meetings for them so they could bring their friends along and help them to sign these up to their business which is ultimately yours. By teaching them the same methods you will strat to see some decent growth in your group

      All the best with your venture

      Anton
      Well i am actually really surprised with the success that i have achieved so far. It came really fast and all at once. Now it is kind of on autopilot. But I want to stay interested in it. I mean yeah, checks come all the time. But I want them to be HUGE ones So I think ill just have to keep doing what i used to do and continue promoting and helping my downline.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

        Well i am actually really surprised with the success that i have achieved so far. It came really fast and all at once. Now it is kind of on autopilot. But I want to stay interested in it. I mean yeah, checks come all the time. But I want them to be HUGE ones So I think ill just have to keep doing what i used to do and continue promoting and helping my downline.
        This is the positive application of 'keep doing what you're doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting..."

        Keep on keeping on...
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        • Profile picture of the author duality32
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          This is the positive application of 'keep doing what you're doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting..."

          Keep on keeping on...
          Yeah, sometimes it gets kind of frustrating because I have bad ADHD, so I like results right away hah. Other than that, I think I have it down here. But anyway to streamline it?
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

            Yeah, sometimes it gets kind of frustrating because I have bad ADHD, so I like results right away hah. Other than that, I think I have it down here. But anyway to streamline it?
            Do as much of your training or coaching in groups as you can.

            Look at your routine and pick out a Single Daily Action which, if you do only that every day, will give you the most bang for the buck. In other words, apply the 80/20 rule. Once you have your SDA, do that without fail.

            Then, if your ADHD kicks in, you know you've done something positive...
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            • Profile picture of the author duality32
              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              Do as much of your training or coaching in groups as you can.

              Look at your routine and pick out a Single Daily Action which, if you do only that every day, will give you the most bang for the buck. In other words, apply the 80/20 rule. Once you have your SDA, do that without fail.

              Then, if your ADHD kicks in, you know you've done something positive...
              HAHA! You made me laugh with that last comment. You have to remember that this is my first marketing campaign I have tried. So I'm still trying to work out what it is exactly i have to do to maximize my growth and profit. Thanks man!
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  • Profile picture of the author duality32
    Im trying to get people to help me out gettin new people that are interested in either losing weight or making alot of money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    Originally Posted by duality32 View Post

    Im with a company that has an amazing product and an even better comp plan. However, i only have 38 personals and 180 in my downline. I mean im making money. I would like more people to make money too. I know there is alot of people who know how to do this better than me and im asking for some help.
    My goal is to get at least 50 personals. Then start working on helping them out. I'm stuck! Please help:confused:
    My old boss used to be one of the most successful recruiters for offline businesses that I have ever known and I suspect his method could be "tweaked" for online business. What he'd do is go and visit the competition and talk to the folks working there. Then, he would offer them a BETTER deal if they came to work for our company than they were getting at their current company. Worked very, very well, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

      My old boss used to be one of the most successful recruiters for offline businesses that I have ever known and I suspect his method could be "tweaked" for online business. What he'd do is go and visit the competition and talk to the folks working there. Then, he would offer them a BETTER deal if they came to work for our company than they were getting at their current company. Worked very, very well, too.
      I have done that, which really excited me. But they havent done anything besides buy the package. I thought they would be the most motivated. For me, if i bought into anything i would try my hardest to at least try to make my money back
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  • Profile picture of the author n00b
    First of all, NEVER give away your sales/referrals. Depending on the commission structure you can place new recruits where they can help out the most, but don't out right give people away. This will just create whiners and snivelers who's hand you will have to hold the entire way. I have never personally seen someone who was given sales/referrals succeed and everyone I know that has been successful has never had a sale/referral given to them.

    Secondly, I would STRONGLY suggest you find a good network marketing trainer and plug in to their system. Why? Simply because you don't want to be Elvis. If you make it all about your training and your help, what happens in a few years when you want to retire? Your team falls apart because it's been about you. You want to build a business where no one would notice if you "left the building" tomorrow.

    I would recommend Dani Johnson, simply because she has a solid program for your people to plug in to (free weekly training calls and then paid training seminars monthly). Her script book and CD programs are spot on. She is very religous and it comes out in her training, so if you're not on the same page with her on it, you'll have to just turn a deaf ear to it. The results she'll get you are worth it.

    Whatever you do, the key to MLM is to have a system. Your business needs to be system based, not people based, that way as the people change (and they will) your business keeps growing. Your job is to set the example with your numbers and build team trust and loyalty. I would definitely outsource the training. If you train your people, then they are going to follow your example and train their people and so on and so forth. It's like a game of telephone and it will fall apart fast and is the number one reason people have a hard time building deep. Instead, have everyone go to the source for the training, whoever you decide that source should be (not you, you'll regret it later).

    Good luck! Realise that you're building for the long term, it doesn't have to happen overnight. Much better to build a business that you can walk away from in 5 years or less than to get caught on the treadmill of rebuilding every month because of flash in the pan success.

    Feel free to pm if you want help or advice. I'm passionate about network marketing, I've seen it change a lot of people's lives.
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    • Profile picture of the author duality32
      Originally Posted by n00b View Post

      First of all, NEVER give away your sales/referrals. Depending on the commission structure you can place new recruits where they can help out the most, but don't out right give people away. This will just create whiners and snivelers who's hand you will have to hold the entire way. I have never personally seen someone who was given sales/referrals succeed and everyone I know that has been successful has never had a sale/referral given to them.

      Secondly, I would STRONGLY suggest you find a good network marketing trainer and plug in to their system. Why? Simply because you don't want to be Elvis. If you make it all about your training and your help, what happens in a few years when you want to retire? Your team falls apart because it's been about you. You want to build a business where no one would notice if you "left the building" tomorrow.

      I would recommend Dani Johnson, simply because she has a solid program for your people to plug in to (free weekly training calls and then paid training seminars monthly). Her script book and CD programs are spot on. She is very religous and it comes out in her training, so if you're not on the same page with her on it, you'll have to just turn a deaf ear to it. The results she'll get you are worth it.

      Whatever you do, the key to MLM is to have a system. Your business needs to be system based, not people based, that way as the people change (and they will) your business keeps growing. Your job is to set the example with your numbers and build team trust and loyalty. I would definitely outsource the training. If you train your people, then they are going to follow your example and train their people and so on and so forth. It's like a game of telephone and it will fall apart fast and is the number one reason people have a hard time building deep. Instead, have everyone go to the source for the training, whoever you decide that source should be (not you, you'll regret it later).

      Good luck! Realise that you're building for the long term, it doesn't have to happen overnight. Much better to build a business that you can walk away from in 5 years or less than to get caught on the treadmill of rebuilding every month because of flash in the pan success.

      Feel free to pm if you want help or advice. I'm passionate about network marketing, I've seen it change a lot of people's lives.
      That was a very informative post. Thanks for the information. Yeah I think that I have a long ways to go until I fully figure out what it is that I have to do. I'm still new to this whole MLM thing, but I have a great start. One of the star makers of the company. And every little bit that i get as far as help is, I take to heart and try to learn from it. Thanks!
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