Somebody must be able to explain . . . . I hope.

[artwebster]

It isn’t often that I am faced with a situation that defies logic but it appears that Internet marketers have a peculiar affinity with illogic.

I have given my offline method to 7 internet marketers. Apart from two who have simply disappeared off the face of the earth or do not understand the rules of common courtesy because I haven’t heard from them since, they have all made money doing what I teach – the least being $500 in a week with residual income of $59.90 per month.

Not one of them is still using my method to make money!

For four of them, the reason is the very basic one of the fact that they simply don’t have the necessary self confidence and resilience to approach business owners face to face.

For the fifth, who actually made $1250 and $149.75 residual income in the first week told me that he gave up after that “because it isn’t really internet marketing – and he is an internet marketer”.

Will somebody please explain to me why the following do not make sense:-

• Selling a profitable IM related service
• Giving a business real cash savings each month
• Creating initial cash flow and a residual income for yourself
• Being able to sell more services knowing that cost is not an objection
• Being able to prove in your presentation the actual cash savings
• Being able to demonstrate superior knowledge in a subject for which the businessman has no other source of independent advice?

It really grieves me that I am no longer able to go out and work for myself but it absolutely staggers me that somebody can simply give up a source of income that not only can be very substantial but that will finance future purchases by the client.

[John Taylor]

Art,

The litmus test for this type of situation is..

Did it involve any work?

If no.. they'll keep doing nothing

If yes.. they'll go back to doing nothing.

End result.. nothing.

John

[Andyhenry]

This is exactly why there's no one-size-fits-all answer to what people should do to make money. Some people just don't want to do certain things just for the money.

There are lots of things I could be doing to make money that I have chosen not to.

The reason you don't understand these people is just that they have different preferences.

It's like telling someone who hates writing how to make money with article writing - they can do it but they just don't want to.

I've probably left more money on the table over the years from not doing things I know would make money than I even realise - but I know it and it doesn't bother me because I love how I spend most of my time and that is important to me.

I could be doing the same things you're wondering why these people aren't - and for me it's just a time factor. There are things I can do that are just a better choice for me.

If I was desperate for cash or just wanted to change life styles I could fall back on to the 'offline cash' business model - but right now I love traveling too much and I can't commit myself or my time to looking after clients like that. That could change but right now that's just the way it is.

Don't hate these people and don't look for negative reasons why they don't see your logic, that's people for you.

Just do what you want and let them get on with what they want.

Andy

[Chris Kent]

Art, This is why most people who take on internet marketing fail.

People can shout all they want "take action" but it won't work.

Knowing the steps needed is only a fraction of what is required. A person has to overcome all the psychological obstacles necessary too. I've yet to find a single infoproduct that solves this aspect.

[artwebster]

Originally Posted by John Taylor

Art,

The litmus test for this type of situation is..

Did it involve any work?

If no.. they'll keep doing nothing

If yes.. they'll go back to doing nothing.

End result.. nothing.

John

Hi, John,

Since these people were (allegedly) already selling off line and speaking to offline businesses the only extra 'work' involved was adding a little extra to their pitch - something like "Do you want to cut your costs and probably find more paying customers?" Not too difficult - or have I come up against wannabes that talk a great fight anmong themselves but actually never go further than talk?

[pjCheviot]

Art

"You can lead a horse to water but . . . . ."

I don't think there will be a clear-cut answer for it? Everyone is different.

[artwebster]

A person has to overcome all the psychological obstacles necessary too. I've yet to find a single infoproduct that solves this aspect.

While I do train people to over come these obstacles (not only in marketing) and obviously do it well enough for the five people who have responded to my requests for feed-back to earn extra money I don't think this is an issue.

The simple fact that they tried what I taught, made extra money in a market in which they claimed to be already working and also gave their clients the money for services that they could sell a little further down the line is what has me puzzled.

Do you suppose they were all lying?

[Intrepreneur]

Art what is the product, I've been successful offline but not for any kind of residual.. I'm interested in this.

Cheers.

[greenovni]

People who easily give up. That's what it boils down to. Is this a method that you are selling? I would love to read your pdf and apply it

[Andyhenry]

Isn't it possible that although they tested it and found it worked - they just weren't inspired to keep doing it just because it worked?

If you're talking about people who were already successfully running their business, they may just not want to keep doing these different things - it doesn't have to be a big puzzle - if they're not doing something they obviously don't want to or have other things they prefer to do.

They tried it, it worked, and now they've decided there are other ways they want to spend their time.

You're making it sound like because they don't want to do something just because it makes money - they're crazy or retarded.

You're not going to get their reasons from asking us in this forum - you need to speak to those people to get your answers.

Andy

[Johnathan]

Without knowing 'exactly' what it is that you are promoting...

Perhaps they just don't 'like' doing it. You can make money doing 'factory' work, and actually pretty good money at that (relatively speaking, i.e., 60-70k/year) -- but that doesn't mean everyone is going to do it. Simply because some find it exceptionally boring and mundane.

Likewise, it sounds like you have an 'offline' business strategy, and probably most people like the convenience of sitting in their shorts at home while watching t.v. and 'chatting' online while doing business, instead of knocking on doors. Cold calling does take work, and people don't like work. It is much easier just to sit in front of a computer.

Additionally, it might just be out of their 'comfort' zone.

Originally Posted by artwebster

It isn’t often that I am faced with a situation that defies logic but it appears that Internet marketers have a peculiar affinity with illogic.

I have given my offline method to 7 internet marketers. Apart from two who have simply disappeared off the face of the earth or do not understand the rules of common courtesy because I haven’t heard from them since, they have all made money doing what I teach – the least being $500 in a week with residual income of $59.90 per month.

Not one of them is still using my method to make money!

For four of them, the reason is the very basic one of the fact that they simply don’t have the necessary self confidence and resilience to approach business owners face to face.

For the fifth, who actually made $1250 and $149.75 residual income in the first week told me that he gave up after that “because it isn’t really internet marketing – and he is an internet marketer”.

Will somebody please explain to me why the following do not make sense:-

• Selling a profitable IM related service
• Giving a business real cash savings each month
• Creating initial cash flow and a residual income for yourself
• Being able to sell more services knowing that cost is not an objection
• Being able to prove in your presentation the actual cash savings
• Being able to demonstrate superior knowledge in a subject for which the businessman has no other source of independent advice?

It really grieves me that I am no longer able to go out and work for myself but it absolutely staggers me that somebody can simply give up a source of income that not only can be very substantial but that will finance future purchases by the client.

[R Hagel]

I loved Andy's responses to this -- he pretty much said exactly what I was thinking.

People give me products to review from time to time. If the strategy being taught is something I've never tried before, I always give it a try to see if it works. Sometimes it works like gangbusters and I make a nice chunk of money.

But I don't pursue it. If it doesn't fit into my business plan or it's something I don't want to continue doing, I don't do it. It's just a personal preference. I choose to make money only doing those things that I really enjoy doing. (If something happened that I needed money desperately, that's another story -- then I would do whatever needed to be done.)

Cheers,
Becky

P.S. Of course that's not the only reason people don't pursue activities with positive outcomes. For example, why don't people exercise even though they feel so good when they're done (and it's healthy)?