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Are Clickbank vendor claims genuine?

by Anton543
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I sometimes see vendors for some products in the marketplace claiming their top affiliates making $6k, $7k, $8k. Are these claims genuine or just marketing gimmick?
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  • Profile picture of the author MilesBaker
    Originally Posted by Anton543 View Post

    I sometimes see vendors for some products in the marketplace claiming their top affiliates making $6k, $7k, $8k. Are these claims genuine or just marketing gimmick?
    Sometimes they are genuine, and sometimes they're not. It all depends on what you are looking at. If it's on ClickBank then ClickBank should be verifying they are legitimate, however that's not always the case. They've gotten much better about that though in recent years.

    Many times the money in the screenshots was earned from different means than claimed on the sales page. For example they say they have a system for generating thousands, but the money was really made from selling people something entirely different. ClickBank is getting better about policing these types of claims as well.

    If you have a question about a specific sales page or product you can always ask about it, get a second opinion, and if you purchase something on ClickBank you're always entitled to a refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Anton,

      What you're really asking is whether marketers are truthful or not. As has been pointed out, some marketers tell the truth some lie.

      Should that be any surprise?

      The greater question is not so broad and sweeping:

      Which are you going to be?

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  • Profile picture of the author Anton543
    It's actually in the marketplace product description that I have seen these claim made, even now.
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  • Profile picture of the author eClicker
    I think due the the fact hype type sales pages work in today's market and the fact so many people are getting ripped off by courses that are not true, it's simply hard to tell at times. The claims may be true but some may not give you the complete picture of how the money was earned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thriftypreneur
    Originally Posted by Anton543 View Post

    I sometimes see vendors for some products in the marketplace claiming their top affiliates making $6k, $7k, $8k. Are these claims genuine or just marketing gimmick?
    I suppose a better question might be, "How does another affiliate's income on a given product affect your ability to sell it?"

    Trying to measure a product's sales potential by their affiliate income claims is going to lead you no where. Even if Random Affiliate A is making $8k a month with a product, does that mean you will? No, not really. Random Affiliate A may have only tested the product for one month with PPC traffic and spent $14k to make that $8k, you just don't know. But, the vendor can still claim the $8k in revenue.

    You'll always be better served ignoring any claims like these and simply doing your own research and testing.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton543
    Well, I have made a few sales here and there of a product that claims to earn top affiliates $7k a day. If the top affiliates are so successful I was wondering how they do it, if its true, that is.

    But I do see what you are saying about someone (or few) possibly spending a huge amount to make those sums, and the vendor claiming them to entice others to promote the product.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thriftypreneur
      Originally Posted by Anton543 View Post

      Well, I have made a few sales here and there of a product that claims to earn top affiliates $7k a day. If the top affiliates are so successful I was wondering how they do it, if its true, that is.

      But I do see what you are saying about someone (or few) possibly spending a huge amount to make those sums, and the vendor claiming them to entice others to promote the product.
      It's simple, they have/get lots of traffic. There's no real secret there.

      They're either buying traffic (PPC, ads, email blasts, etc) or they run a huge site.
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      • Profile picture of the author bretski
        I often wondered about this also. I wonder if it's possible for a vendor to set up an affiliate account and then use that as their stats?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by bretski View Post

          I wonder if it's possible for a vendor to set up an affiliate account and then use that as their stats?
          It's definitely possible for vendors to set up affiliate accounts and be their own affiliates. It's a different subject, but there are also "services" with multiple existing affiliate accounts which vendors can use in an attempt artificially to inflate their products' gravity figures (the ones who think that's a clever thing to do and the affiliates who are attracted by it probably deserve each other ).

          There are also some people with high 4-figure daily AdWords budgets building lists for specific ClickBank niches/products and promoting them profitably by email. But be aware that some people "making $7k per day" from a product may be spending $6k+ of that on AdWords and/or other PPC advertising. That can still be very profitable, of course, and semi-automated (as much as anything is) once the inevitable autoresponder set-up's all completed, refined, split-tested and in place.

          I believe that the veracity of affiliate income claims made in Marketplace listings is not in any way independently verified.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
      Originally Posted by Anton543 View Post

      Well, I have made a few sales here and there of a product that claims to earn top affiliates $7k a day. If the top affiliates are so successful I was wondering how they do it, if its true, that is.

      But I do see what you are saying about someone (or few) possibly spending a huge amount to make those sums, and the vendor claiming them to entice others to promote the product.
      Yep. Their top affiliates might be spending 30K a day on PPC to make 37K. Or paying for solo ads that go out to large targeted lists. Or running ads in major trade publications.

      Many ways to do it, if you have the funds to invest. Guys that do those kinds of numbers don't get there overnight though... they start small, and slowly build up to that point after a LOT of testing / tracking / tweaking.

      The truth is... 90% + of the affiliates on CB will make little or no profit. It's only a small percentage who do well. And an even smaller percentage who do exceptionally well.
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    Those descriptions are usually worded as "Top affiliates earn UP TO $10k per day"

    The key is the words "up to". If one affiliate made 10k during the launch then the claim is legit.
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  • Profile picture of the author bretski
    Originally Posted by mikedcarroll View Post

    Screw trying to match the success of other people.
    Absolutely... why not try to exceed the success of others
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Some are real, but I imagine most are fake, nothing more than a graphic made by the copy writer. I noticed most of the live logins, are faked, because it is a login to a past launch, and has nothing to do with the method they are selling.

    You really need to use due diligence when using Clickbank, or any product for that matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevoarnold
    The it's entirely possible that the claims are true - especially if you're talking about the products in the top 5-10 in the big niches (MMO, Dating, Weight Loss).

    It doesn't really matter what anyone else is doing though. The most important statistic (in my opinion) is EPC, which is Earnings Per Click. Even still, there's the potential to over-exaggerate claims here. But assuming EPC's are all honest and above board though, they give you a rough estimate of what you might be able to earn if you send 100, 1000 or 10000 clicks to the offer.
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