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Do You Protect Your Products From Pirates And How?

by konrud
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Hi guys. I noticed a great deal of paid WSO in public. There are 3-4 forums where people share the links to download these products.

Is it possible to fight with pirates? How do you feel about that? Do pirates damage you?
#pirates #products #protect
  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Of course they damage you. They distribute your product to literally thousands of people for free. Some of these people would most likely have purchased if it weren't available for free.

    What I do is to issue DMCAs to the file sharing sites that actually are hosting the product. The BH sites themselves do not host, so they upload to the file sharing sites. These file sharing sites for the most part DO honor the DMCA.

    There is little you can do to actually prevent them from sharing unless you use a protection software, which many customers in the MMO sphere don't like very much. The DMCAs have worked well for me. Eventually they get tired of re-uploading and move on to another product.

    Plenty of people here will just tell you to ignore it ... that these aren't buyers ... blah blah blah, but I don't agree. I think having your product massively available for free will harm your product sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author konrud
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Of course they damage you. They distribute your product to literally thousands of people for free. Some of these people would most likely have purchased if it weren't available for free.

      What I do is to issue DMCAs to the file sharing sites that actually are hosting the product. The BH sites themselves do not host, so they upload to the file sharing sites. These file sharing sites for the most part DO honor the DMCA.

      There is little you can do to actually prevent them from sharing unless you use a protection software, which many customers in the MMO sphere don't like very much. The DMCAs have worked well for me. Eventually they get tired of re-uploading and move on to another product.

      Plenty of people here will just tell you to ignore it ... that these aren't buyers ... blah blah blah, but I don't agree. I think having your product massively available for free will harm your product sales.
      I do not know much about DMCA. So it's interesting to me. It's connected with author rights, is not it? How do you prove your rights and how long are you waiting before file sharing sites delete the link?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Do what you can because as Suzanne said.. yes it does impact sales (or can) but no need to go out of your way to make it protected... because all you'll do then is piss off your people who ACTUALLY bought it (and also there is ALWAYS a way to circumvent it).
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    • Profile picture of the author konrud
      Thanks for advice) do you know any service which is dedicating to protection of WSO and other paid products? I mean not software but people who are specialists in this sphere and can take this boring mission to track the emergence of new threads with free links and then communicate with file share sites to delete these links?
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by konrud View Post

        I do not know much about DMCA. So it's interesting to me. It's connected with author rights, is not it? How do you prove your rights and how long are you waiting before file sharing sites delete the link?
        The sites normally take them down within 24-48 hrs. I haven't had to "prove" my rights. You just have to fill out the DMCA correctly. Google DMCA template for that.

        Originally Posted by konrud View Post

        Thanks for advice) do you know any service which is dedicating to protection of WSO and other paid products? I mean not software but people who are specialists in this sphere and can take this boring mission to track the emergence of new threads with free links and then communicate with file share sites to delete these links?
        There are several DMCA services on WF that will submit DMCAs for you. I bought software that stores all the filesharing DMCA email addresses, so I can pretty much submit DMCAs with little more than a click of the mouse.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Well, since I just answered this in the other thread about the same question:

    I wrote about this a few years ago in the war room, in a post about a WordPress plugin I made that earned over $270,000 before I sold it. It had no encryption, no license management, and I didn't attempt to stop its proliferation on torrent sites and warez forums.

    The simple fact of the matter is:

    (a) 99% of the people that would pirate your code/book/whatever were never going to pay for it even if they couldn't pirate it. It's not lost money.

    (b) You only have to support the users that do pay for it, and access to support is one of the main reasons people buy from the source.

    (c) Any kind of encoding/DRM you try to put in place only hurts your legitimate paying users. Making their experience worse only means less sales for you, less of your customers recommending you to people that would have paid you, and more support work when your system is harder to install or doesn't work right. It's a net loss.
    Focus on your customers and nobody else.
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