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Old 07-09-2013, 04:46 AM   #1
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Alright Warriors

You're going to have to bear with me because I am seriously having one of those days, where I'm thinking whats the sodding point. You Just Might As Will Give Up Completely If You Are Not Allowed To Use Paypal To Accept Payments from customers.

I was just in the process of setting up two websites, one was going to be a coaching website and another was going to be sort of a deal blog/website

My Paypal got permantly shut down two years ago. So I can never use them ever again. However alot of membership scripts, affiliate based comission compays (JVZOO) uses paypal..

I know there are merchant account but most of them wants to charge something per month to use. But as yet I don't have any members etc...

2checkout now doesn't allow you to sell ebooks/videos that you have got resale rights to..

I know I need something that will even still accept payments from people using paypal.

Btw I am based in the UK

I'm just having a nightmare at the moment.. I want to get things finally up and runnning by the weekend.. But now I'm feeling not a chance..
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Why not use clickbank?

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For the same reason he can't use 2Checkout, I think: it seems he just has "resale rights" to whatever he's hoping to sell.

You might be able to use "ClickSure", though, Byron, if you're willing to do business with them: they're based in China and seem to accept absolutely anything and everything that other networks won't touch for a variety of ethical/legal/other reasons (which may be why they've had their own PayPal account limited).Could be worth investigating, though? Good luck!

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I believe there is a $50 sign up fee.. Then I have heard that there fees for admin are quite high...


Also not sure if I will be able use clickbank for my deal blog/website where I am selling products that have got master resale rights to... I know I could use it for my membership site part
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Hey Byron,

I know that feeling of "I HAVE to launch my site by X date"

Sometimes for me it is so intense, it shuts me off to "answers"

It's like, there could be a tidal wave coming, but I've just gotta get my site "Live"

There are ways around your situation..

What about a paypal account using another member of your family's name..

I recently opened a paypal account here in the UK (2 months ago) and managed
to jump through all their hoops to get it verified so I could receive payments with no limits in 2 working days..

Hang in there mate and NEVER give up..


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My Paypal got permantly shut down two years ago. So I can never use them ever again.
Are you saying your account was not only shut down but you are also permanently banned from PayPal?? Is that even possible? You can't open another account?

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Is that even possible?
Yes - it's quite common, Joel.

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Do you have any friends who could become your business partner?

Of course, finding someone you trust can be problematic, but if you do find someone there are various plus points - Two sets of ideas, accountability and your partner being able to accept Paypal.

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Byron, I think the best way is to use family members account for this reason. I personally know some people who are doing it because for one reason or another paypal have banned them.

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Why don't you ask someone trusted who doesn't use PayPal to create and account for you? I think you won't have any problems because of that.

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I believe there is a $50 sign up fee.. Then I have heard that there fees for admin are quite high...

Also not sure if I will be able use clickbank for my deal blog/website where I am selling products that have got master resale rights to... I know I could use it for my membership site part
So what. Cough up the $50 and write it off as a business expense.

There fees are higher than many, but they handle all of the tax BS for your affiliates and they accept paypal. So it's well worth it.

They pay on time all the time, which I can't say for many other affiliate programs.

And they have a very large pool of affiliates.

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Hey Byron,

I know that feeling of "I HAVE to launch my site by X date"

Sometimes for me it is so intense, it shuts me off to "answers"

It's like, there could be a tidal wave coming, but I've just gotta get my site "Live"

There are ways around your situation..

What about a paypal account using another member of your family's name..

I recently opened a paypal account here in the UK (2 months ago) and managed
to jump through all their hoops to get it verified so I could receive payments with no limits in 2 working days..

Hang in there mate and NEVER give up..

My wife has got a unverified paypal account at the moment. We can only buy stuff not accept payments at the moment. However to start accepting payments we would need to upgrade to either business or premier account.. But I am wondering if we do that will paypal limit the account because of my account got closed down 2 years ago?? Will not be using the account to sell on ebay at all. Just on my two websites...
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Why don't you ask someone trusted who doesn't use PayPal to create and account for you? I think you won't have any problems because of that.
I asked my mum ages ago and she didn't want to know... I haven't really got any other business partners at the mo. No one else believes in what I am doing online will make money apart from my WIFE
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Are you saying your account was not only shut down but you are also permanently banned from PayPal?? Is that even possible? You can't open another account?
YES BANNED FROM PAYPAL...
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Would it cause trouble if someone opened an account for someone else to let them use it?

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the best solution would be to create another paypal account. if there's a wheel, there's a way!
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...if there's a wheel, there's a way!
Wheel??

Are you related to this person? lol

This is the second time today that the phrase, "If there's a will, there's a way" has been misspoken. So surreal....

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If checkout process is your problem try using Google Checkout

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Byron, I think the best way is to use family members account for this reason. I personally know some people who are doing it because for one reason or another paypal have banned them.
That is awful advice.

In 99% of the cases there is always a reason why you get banned, shut down, closed, excommunicated or in any other way cast out from something. You broke the rules. tried to shortcut, game a system or simply didn't take the time to LEARN the rules and fumbled your way to a ban.

Using someone else- specially a relative - as a workaround is pure egoism. What happens when the ban hits them by your actions? (yes it will happen again)

This is the same mentality where people take credits on their kids because they can't get their own (for good reason).

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You have been banned from Paypal for 2 years, but your setting up a coaching website. So if you plan on doing coaching Im going to assume that you must have been doing IM during the last 2 years right? So what have you been using? Use that. Or are you just planning on having a coaching website when you have done nothing for the last 2 years?
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I'm a little confused how someone who is going to offer coaching (to ANY community) cannot afford the $5-$30/mo for a merchant account?

But anyway... I use stripe.com and it works quite well.

Here's a little chart of the "free" (no monthly payment, processors I came up with)

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Payza (AlertPay)                   2.50%                        $0.25 
Stripe.com                           2.90%                        $0.30 
Google Checkout                   2.90%                        $0.30 
Paypal	                         2.90%                        $0.30 
RegNow (mycommerce.com)    4.90%                        $1.00 
2Checkout (2co.com)             5.50%                        $0.45 
Clickbank                             7.50%                         $1.00

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Just about everyone that does enough business eventually gets hit with the paypal ban. The company is borderline illegal with their business practices. However unfortunately they are still a necessity to get your full potential out of a pay website.

I've been banned several times but that does not stop me from getting new accounts. And I do not feel one iota of guilt for doing it. Because I did not do anything wrong in the first place to deserve a ban. A Majority of their bans happen when you have a sudden influx of business. It's like an automatic software trigger, and it's complete BS. Plus when they do ban you or suspend your account, they hold your funds for up to 6 months, which in the real banking world IS illegal.

So no, I absolutely have no problem circumventing their rules - because they circumvent the rules themselves.

The best way to do it is to get a business license or some form of tax ID for your business. I don't know how they do it in the UK - but here in Illinois we can apply for a tax ID number online free of charge - and you can get one new one every day. Then you go to paypal and get a business account. Then you'll also have to change your physical address. There are many places online where you can rent temporary mailing addresses. And then finally you'll need to change your computer's IP address from the one that you used for your previous paypal accounts. You can usually do this by resetting your modem - but you'll have to check this on your own system.

There are a few things they usually track to link accounts together, they are:
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Right now I'm on my 4th paypal account and this one has been going strong now for probably 5 years. It's a pain in the rear, but you learn to live with it.

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Would it cause trouble if someone opened an account for someone else to let them use it?
Yes - sometimes greatly so. And for understandable reasons: naturally enough (as with absolutely anything in which fiduciary responsibility is involved, surely?!) it would be totally against the terms of service.

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Heres an idea, Use cryptocurrencys No chargebacks , No being banned

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And how is that going to help me?????????
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After reading this thread, I seriously hope you reconsider offering "coaching" when you don't even have $50 to open a Clickbank account.

Save up $50, open a Clickbank account, sell some of your products and once you've made a few hundred thousand you could consider offering coaching. I know the WF mentality is for any idiot to create a "product" but it's not a good idea to charge people for coaching if you can't even figure out how to process payments.
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And how is that going to help me?????????
Ok first of all go and read whats going on with cryptocurrencys then look at how many coiners and websites are using it to make $$ in diff ways. Then do it yourself, Its new and there are a lot of opportunities with this. There is always a way bud you just gotta look at it from a diff angle. Paypal can pull an account on anybody when ever they want, with cryptocurrencys that cant happen. Just take a look on the bitcoin forum and look for new ways to monetise cryptocoins or copy something which is allready been done but do it better.

PS: if you decide to have a go just make sure you encrypt your wallet no matter which currency you try. And make sure you keep your PC free of viruses

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After reading this thread, I seriously hope you reconsider offering "coaching" when you don't even have $50 to open a Clickbank account.

Save up $50, open a Clickbank account, sell some of your products and once you've made a few hundred thousand you could consider offering coaching. I know the WF mentality is for any idiot to create a "product" but it's not a good idea to charge people for coaching if you can't even figure out how to process payments.
Clickbank is for the membership site only.. What about the deal site???
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ok I might be able to use clickbank for the membership site one.. But what about the deal website that I was thinking about doing??
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Hey Byron,

I know that feeling of "I HAVE to launch my site by X date"

Sometimes for me it is so intense, it shuts me off to "answers"

It's like, there could be a tidal wave coming, but I've just gotta get my site "Live"

There are ways around your situation..

What about a paypal account using another member of your family's name..

I recently opened a paypal account here in the UK (2 months ago) and managed
to jump through all their hoops to get it verified so I could receive payments with no limits in 2 working days..

Hang in there mate and NEVER give up..
I'm not sure if Paypal will my wife's account to be verified and then start accepting payments because of my account be closed/banned.. Even though we won't be selling anything on ebay at all. Just from the two websites..

Don't want to ruin my wife name and account.. So that's why I am bit nervous to go ahead and upgrade her account to business
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It's really easy to get another or multiple paypal account - all you need is a new bank account coop etc, a new email address and a new mobile telephone number.

I found that I needed a new account when I got scammed on ebay and it was not difficult to setup first I got the new ebay account and then I got the new paypal account.

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It's really easy to get another or multiple paypal account - all you need is a new bank account coop etc, a new email address and a new mobile telephone number.

I found that I needed a new account when I got scammed on ebay and it was not difficult to setup first I got the new ebay account and then I got the new paypal account.

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My wife has already got an account at the same address which is currently unverified.. If I upgraded it to business what will happen then? Will paypal shut it because of my account??

At the moment we are only buying stuff not selling anything
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You're going to have to bear with me because I am seriously having one of those days, where I'm thinking whats the sodding point. You Just Might As Will Give Up Completely If You Are Not Allowed To Use Paypal To Accept Payments from customers.

I was just in the process of setting up two websites, one was going to be a coaching website and another was going to be sort of a deal blog/website

My Paypal got permantly shut down two years ago. So I can never use them ever again. However alot of membership scripts, affiliate based comission compays (JVZOO) uses paypal..

I know there are merchant account but most of them wants to charge something per month to use. But as yet I don't have any members etc...

2checkout now doesn't allow you to sell ebooks/videos that you have got resale rights to..

I know I need something that will even still accept payments from people using paypal.

Btw I am based in the UK

I'm just having a nightmare at the moment.. I want to get things finally up and runnning by the weekend.. But now I'm feeling not a chance..
why are u so bent on resale rights ebooks then? How about creating a brand new ebook from scratch?
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Can you incorporate your business and open a new Paypal account that way?
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Hi Alexa,
I'm not sure it is common. Sorry to disagree.

Back to OP.

I have had three paypal accounts. This is because I had, until recently, an offline business. I sold two products online that my company manufactured. They each had their own account. All three accounts needed their own UK bank account to link with. If you run an offline business in the UK you will already have at least three bank accounts

So my first advice would be. Go and open a new paypal account and make sure the UK bank account you link to is different to the one you used in the first place. It would be even better if you related this to an ebay account as well.

Secondly. I think Nat West are doing a special deal with merchant accounts for online transactions at this moment in time. So it might be worth checking that out.

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You have been banned from Paypal for 2 years, but your setting up a coaching website. So if you plan on doing coaching Im going to assume that you must have been doing IM during the last 2 years right? So what have you been using? Use that. Or are you just planning on having a coaching website when you have done nothing for the last 2 years?
He hasn't done "nothing" - he accumulated some resale rights stuff he wants to charge monthly access fees for.

Maybe this is the Universe's way of looking out for his potential "coachees"...

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You can use Wepay.com - the SAME exact thing as paypal and works better in my opinion or payza.com


These are both wonderful alternatives.


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You can use Wepay.com - the SAME exact thing as paypal and works better in my opinion or payza.com


These are both wonderful alternatives.


Less fees, and faster withdralwls half the time.

I just come across eway which is a merchant account
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He hasn't done "nothing" - he accumulated some resale rights stuff he wants to charge monthly access fees for.

Maybe this is the Universe's way of looking out for his potential "coachees"...

No I don't want to charge people a montlhy fee for resale rights that I have got.. Never said that.... And even if I did there is nothing wrong with me doing that at all....
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Clickbank is for the membership site only.. What about the deal site???
You can use Clickbank to sell one time products as well, while still being able to accept Paypal payments. If that doesn't work out for you, you can always trying setting up your own merchant account.

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You can use Clickbank to sell one time products as well, while still being able to accept Paypal payments. If that doesn't work out for you, you can always trying setting up your own merchant account.

I'm currently looking at eway which if I understand right is a merchant account..

I'm not sure if anyone knows of any merchant accounts that work in the UK that will allow people to pay using paypal as well...
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No I don't want to charge people a montlhy fee for resale rights that I have got.. Never said that.... And even if I did there is nothing wrong with me doing that at all....
Thanks. I just got another name for my "never buy from" list...

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I'm curious what you did that got you banned from PayPal in the first place.

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He hasn't done "nothing" - he accumulated some resale rights stuff he wants to charge monthly access fees for.

Maybe this is the Universe's way of looking out for his potential "coachees"...
I agree with you! I have never paid for any coaching and I never will!

To the OP, I suggest you set up a new site where you "coach" people and teach them the one thing you seem to know, which is: How To Get Banned From Paypal!

Provide this service for free, as you don't have a way of taking payments! This way you can really share your experience and knowledge and potentially help people so they don't end up in a situation you are in.
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What bugs me is that you've waited 2 years to try to get this figured out. I could understand maybe 1 to 6 months while you finished site designs, but two years? How come you never did the research on payment processors during that period of time?
For the past two years I have been doing other things than concertrating online. I have been a full time career for my dad who had cancer that's all
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I'm curious what you did that got you banned from PayPal in the first place.
There is a lot of reason why you can get banned from paypal whether good or bad.....
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@Bryon that makes sense now...I was going to say, if were just sitting around and it took you two years then I would have to knock some sense into you. However, a sick family member is definitely legitimate (I hope you accept my apologies).
No worries Everything got put on the back burner as the say goings.. But now I'm trying to get back into things and back up and running
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If you are serious about making money, you should know that you need to spend money to make money.

You say that people get banned from PayPal all the time for various reasons. True. However, many people who get Limited get limited because they will not prove who they are to Paypal. Most people who get banned for life present a serious threat of fraud or financial loss to PayPal.

I want to give you the benefit of a doubt, but it seems hard to do with what you have so far presented. Exactly what kind of coaching do you plan on offering to people? And, are you qualified to offer that kind of coaching?

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Couldn't you form your business into an LLC and then open a business account with the business name/EIN number? That would not really be in "your" name and it would prevent a friend or family member from having your income look like their income when tax time rolls around.

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