Protecting video content from theft

11 years ago

Protect your video content within a membership area.

If you're using WordPress you can also use plugins to
create expiring download links for each member.

Rather than hosting with YouTube, use AmazonS3
and then you have greater control on who gets
access to your material.

You'll likely never stop the determined thief, but you
can put roadblocks in place to deter the more casual
snoopers.

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Victor Edson

11 years ago

I use the instamember plugin and amazon s3.

It's pretty easy to set up... creating the s3 account
was the hardest part.

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Jon12345

11 years ago

I should point out at this stage that my paid members actually belong to a specific vbulletin forum user group. There is no connection with WordPress.

I do have DAP but that does not integrate with vBulletin 3.8x.

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hometutor

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Jon12345

I should point out at this stage that my paid members actually belong to a specific vbulletin forum user group. There is no connection with WordPress.

I do have DAP but that does not integrate with vBulletin 3.8x.

With smf I can setup a membership and membership payment where Payees only have access to a special board on the forum. I can then embed the video into smf although I have not done that part for a while.

I would imagine since vbullitin is more complex than smf it would have even better options.

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Its Trish 11 years ago

Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert

I seen people screencast record the video from RMTP videos then post the recording, so how does it stop that?

Not clear why you asked, because that question was answered in my post.

I clearly stated that yes it **is** possible to use Camtasia or other screencast software to record anything on your screen. However the quality won't be anywhere near the original video. (Original = beautiful mp3... Copy = low quality, low frames per second)

I seen people screencast record the

That is very rare. Probably because marketers don't know about rtmp, therefore it's hardly ever used for delivering "info course" content... more often rtmp is used by huge video sites like Hulu for delivering television shows.
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d3communications

11 years ago

If it's on the web, someone can grab it. Simple as that.

But, why would you try to limit views? Embed your branding and links to more and even better training content. Let people spread it around for you virally to build your business.

In other words, if you're worried about someone stealing your stuff, turn the game on these thieves (is someone really going to steal it, BTW?) and let them work for you.

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techservice

11 years ago

You can make it private on Youtube??

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- craftziner 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by joseph7384
  
  That won't stop it from being shared, expiring links is the best bet.
  
  Yes, besides, your viewership is limited to at the most 50 users, and they should be Youtube (Google) account holders.
  
  It's a thin line... once you let it out to the public, no one can stop it from being downloaded, uploaded and shared (at least not with the current technology). Your best bet here is to see it as an "opportunity" to show off your brand to the outside world. There are ways you can add branding and watermarking to your videos so that even if it is stolen, you'll still have the benefit of having your brand reach more people.
  
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ravijayagopal

11 years ago

Jon,

Check out Vimeo.com (plus, or better yet, pro). You can upload video to Vimeo, whitelist your domain so the video only plays on your site, and you can also choose to stream it so that they can't "easily" download it.

That should deter about 99% of viewers. And thanks to free screen capture tools, you can just ignore the remaining 1% who will abuse it anyway.

Now, how you protect the forum itself, is something I can't help you with, because I don't think DAP supports vB < 4.x.

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Oguzz13

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ravijayagopal

Jon,

Check out Vimeo.com (plus, or better yet, pro). You can upload video to Vimeo, whitelist your domain so the video only plays on your site, and you can also choose to stream it so that they can't "easily" download it.

That should deter about 99% of viewers. And thanks to free screen capture tools, you can just ignore the remaining 1% who will abuse it anyway.

Now, how you protect the forum itself, is something I can't help you with, because I don't think DAP supports vB < 4.x.

- Ravi Jayagopal

In Vimeo, when the video is chosen to be streaming.. can't some download plug-ins like DownloadHelper in Firefox or FlashGot detect and download it? Is that really so?

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ravijayagopal

11 years ago

Oguz,

No, when it's set to streaming, Downloadhelper and other such plugins can't download it. That's because the video is not really being "buffered" (or also known as "progressive download") when it is true "streaming".

It is downloading AND playing in realtime. Advantage is that they can't be easily "downloaded" (of course they can be screen-captured). Disadvantage is that if the viewer's internet connection is slow, video will sputter and stop, and you can't "leave it on for a minute while it loads" (in order to buffer ahead) like you can do with traditional non-streamed (buffered) video - like at YouTube, for example.

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Oguzz13

In Vimeo, when the video is chosen to be streaming.. can't some download plug-ins like DownloadHelper in Firefox or FlashGot detect and download it? Is that really so?

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Oguzz13

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ravijayagopal

Oguz,

No, when it's set to streaming, Downloadhelper and other such plugins can't download it. That's because the video is not really being "buffered" (or also known as "progressive download") when it is true "streaming".

It is downloading AND playing in realtime. Advantage is that they can't be easily "downloaded" (of course they can be screen-captured). Disadvantage is that if the viewer's internet connection is slow, video will sputter and stop, and you can't "leave it on for a minute while it loads" (in order to buffer ahead) like you can do with traditional non-streamed (buffered) video - like at YouTube, for example.
Hope this helps.
- Ravi Jayagopal

Hi Ravi,

I realized that you're related with DigitalAccessPass.com.

I'm looking for a solution to limit the download of videos and audios (as much as possible) of my new membership site.

I know that a tech-savvy person can download it anyhow, at worst can screen-capture it, but I want to make the videos and audios non-downloadable as much as possible. Especially for Firefox/Chrome video downlaod plugins, FlashGot and basically looking in the source code and seeing directly the actual video links.

Is DAP giving any specific solution for that? What do you suggest for making videos/audios non-downloadable?

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WillR

11 years ago

If someone wants to steal your video content they will.

The best way to deter sharing is putting them inside a membership site with automatically expiring download links. This stops the download links from being shared around. But again, if someone really want to share it all they need do is record your video and share it.

Nothing can protect content 100% unfortunately.

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onqdirector 11 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

If someone wants to steal your video content they will.

Truth... That's why we use the "bait car" method.

1.) Hire copyright lawyer.
2.) copyright your material.
3.) make really high quality content that someone will want to steal.
4.) place a watermark on video for easy identification
5.) Then make it as public as possible and easy to steal.
6.) wait for someone to steal it
7.) use copyright lawyer from step one to sue offender.
8.) profit from lawsuit
9.) return to step 6 and repeat.
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- Its Trish 11 years ago
  
  @onqdirector,
  
  Are you being sarcastic, or is that really a method you suggest?
  
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  onqdirector 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Its Trish
  
  @onqdirector,
  
  Are you being sarcastic, or is that really a method you suggest?
  
  definitely sarcasm lol, but I suppose it could work if the offender was in the same country and under the same laws.
  
  Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod
  
  How many judgments have you collected on this way?
  
  exactly 0 lol I was just being silly.
  
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- BrianMcLeod 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by onqdirector
  
  Truth... That's why we use the "bait car" method.
  
  8.) profit from lawsuit
  
  How many judgments have you collected on this way?
  
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ravijayagopal

11 years ago

Oguzz,

>>but I want to make the videos and audios non-downloadable as much as possible.<<

Then you could use a plugin like easy video player, or a service like Vimeo, to make your videos do true streaming, so it's not buffered, and cannot be "easily" downloaded (emphasis on "easily" :-).

And then whatever embed code you put into a page on your site, DAP can then protect that page or post to make sure only authorized members can access it.

Hope this makes sense.

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leoj888

11 years ago

use Amazon S3 to host your video,it's fast and easy to use,most marketer use it so other people don't have the link to copy

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capnpablo 11 years ago

If, as most folks here seem to agree, videos are hard to protect, why not just put a (your) logo watermark on each of them? At least then viewers would see where a particular video came from and perhaps go to your site or YouTube channel for more info. "If you can't beat 'em, let 'em join you," so to speak.
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- retirewithsandie 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Big Energy
  
  You can make it private on Youtube??
  
  That's not going to help as people can still share the link.
  
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writeaway

11 years ago

The best way to protect your content is the concept of UPDATES. That's right-make it clear that the content EXPIRES and only members will get the latest version. This way, even if your stuff gets ripped, your stuff CREATES A NEED in the eyes of the viewer and you have a ready market for updates. Instead of treating RIPPERS as enemies, treat them as your PROMOTERS. The more they rip, the more eyeballs you get, the more money you get.

Otherwise, it's a losing game...

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Its Trish

11 years ago

Any video can be stolen using camtasia or other software that records your screen. (may not be a great quality copy though) And if someone is desperate enough they can use a handheld video camera to record what's on your monitor. (will likely be very low quality)

Other than the above sketchy methods, the only surefire way to protect your vids is to use rtmp as your streaming method. Easiest way to do this is to signup for a video hosting that offers rtmp. Just google for "rtmp hosting". Not that some services are difficult to setup, while others (like one that I used called Onyxservers) are quite simple to implement.

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HelpingYouBeAnExpert

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Its Trish

Any video can be stolen using camtasia or other software that records your screen. (may not be a great quality copy though) And if someone is desperate enough they can use a handheld video camera to record what's on your monitor. (will likely be very low quality)

Other than the above sketchy methods, the only surefire way to protect your vids is to use rtmp as your streaming method. Easiest way to do this is to signup for a video hosting that offers rtmp. Just google for "rtmp hosting". Not that some services are difficult to setup, while others (like one that I used called Onyxservers) are quite simple to implement.

I seen people screencast record the video from RMTP videos then post the recording, so how does it stop that?

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