What Have You Learned From Your Mistakes

by Zanti
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I'm a strong believer in leaning from my mistakes and even stronger believer in learning from the mistakes of others. So with this in mind:

Knowing what you know now, what would you do differently if you were starting out today.

What mistakes did you make that you would do differently now.

If you had a loved one who was starting from scratch in IM'ing what are the top 3 things you would tell them from your experience and mistakes to put them on the road to success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aggressor
    2 major mistakes I've made:

    #1. Working with loser clients. People that don't have a lot of money make bad clients.

    #2. Products with no back end. There is nothing worse than building up a list of a dead end product that you can't follow up with.

    As a note, the book Desperate Buyers Only talks about going after markets which have "desperate, in pain, buy now traffic" which is all good and true. One of my niches in those areas earns me up to and over $9,000 a month...but its a dead end. There is NOTHING to follow up with. I tried everything and got almost no conversions. So don't just go desperate markets, they are usually dead ends.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Zanti,
    I want to thank you for starting this thread. People underestimate the importance of reflecting on our failures and/or mistakes which can end up doing a great service to ourselves.

    Personally... Not taking action would be my biggest mistake. I've 'missed the boat' on numerous occasions (I'm also a procrastinator of sorts).

    Right up there with not taking action would have to be not going through with an idea because I though it was dumb or fear others may think it was dumb (thus wouldn't purchase). There have been a couple ideas I've had over the years only to be made by others and I believe all but maybe one has been hugely successful.

    Thanks,
    Brian
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    • Profile picture of the author Les Blackwell
      My biggest mistakes when I started were:-

      a) Not actually putting all the things I learned into practice.

      b) Spending too much time in here and not doing any work.
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      • Profile picture of the author pazzer
        Probably my biggest mistake was not focusing on one thing at a time. Instead trying to get multiple projects done at the same time which is a recipe for disaster

        Thinking I didn't know enough and always looking for that product that would teach me what I didn't know, instead of acting on what I did.

        Lastly not doing what I enjoy, it's much easier to stay motivated and spend the required time if you enjoy what your doing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
          Focusing on little nit picky details that don't affect my business in any way.

          Having great ideas and focusing so much on what could go wrong that I don't implement anything. I've learned that as I get ideas my mind goes through a vetting process that I should trust and act on. That's not to say the idea will be a hit but that its worth trying.

          Kevin
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    • Profile picture of the author Zanti
      Thank you all for sharing your mistakes.

      George, I agreed with you, mistakes are just a stepping stone to success. If I can learn from other's mistakes I don't have to repeat them myself.

      Brian, thanks for the kind words.

      Right up there with not taking action would have to be not going through with an idea because I though it was dumb or fear others may think it was dumb (thus wouldn't purchase). There have been a couple ideas I've had over the years only to be made by others and I believe all but maybe one has been hugely successful.
      Brian this has also been one of my major mistakes.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheAngelGuy
      Originally Posted by Brian Tayler View Post

      Not taking action would be my biggest mistake. I've 'missed the boat' on numerous occasions (I'm also a procrastinator of sorts).
      If I could provide the correlary, mine is taking too much action before I understood the process, model, or market enough to make sure that my efforts had the best chance of succeeding - that they were targeted right and I had the processes in place to run things smoothly once I went live with the endeavor.
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  • We should learn from our and other's mistake so that we won't do it again. We must always remember that sometimes, mistakes is what makes us a better person but sometimes it don't. Take care.
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  • Profile picture of the author zeasondesign
    I'm a really slow worker at first, I also usually run from problems..
    Everything is changed when I worked in a professional company in my country.
    I was stressed at the first time, maybe they were stressed too because of me XD
    but now I've changed a lot ^^
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohsin Rasool
    1. Not backing up the hard disk data....until it stopped working! :-(
    2. Starting too many website on too many topics.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmitry
    To make more mistakes...

    The more mistakes you make the more action you take the more you learn the more experience you get the more results you see the more confident you feel the more... it goes on.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    well...the whole way to success is basically cluttered with "mistakes"...its what actually gives us knowledge by learning from them - how else would you become better?

    When i started out i was so naive, i thought that you can just make some low quality site and put some clickbank ads on it - and the money will flow in automatically. Things like that. I wouldn't call this mistake, but rather "not experienced".

    Other mistake: Bidding too high on PPC where the math just doesn't add up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon MacPherson
    I agree with several posts: no backend.

    But (for me) it goes to creating long term clients and becoming an authority in a niche, instead of just going after one frontend sale at a time.

    I don't just want backend sales, I want clients for life.

    I had a successful info product that sold well from the original sales page for 5 years, but I was so happy making a full time income from 2 hours of work per week, that I completely dropped "the" ball.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    One of the things that I have learned in business and I'm sure it applies to IM'ing is, when I have the courage to speak and share of my mistakes, especially the one's where I lost money or where just so embarrassing or dumb I made them into something that was unspeakable.

    When I have opened up and shared the unspeakable, I found I was not alone in making that mistake. In doing this I have found that I have not only helped others learn from my mistakes but learned even more about myself.

    Thank you for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkWrites
    My biggest mistake in the past was not being able to focus. I was really good at having ten ideas in development and making very little progress on any of them because I was trying to implement them all over the same period of time. Focusing on one project until it is done and ready can be hard, but it is much more effective in my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    It sounds like the key element between what TheAngelGuy and Brian have shared is balance between action and preparation.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Going back almost 15 years, here are the biggies...

      1. Project-hopping. Abandoning promising projects to start other promising projects. It becomes a vicious cycle.

      2. 'Eyes bigger than my stomach' syndrome. You know how some people (cough, cough) will heap their plate at a buffet because it all looks so good, then not finish half of it because they just don't have the capacity to eat it all? In my case, it was starting one-man projects that would take a dozen full-timers to do properly.

      3. Beating dead horses. It's the opposite of project hopping. Not recognizing when to cut your losses and try something else.

      4. (Bonus) Being too smart for my own good. I've always been one of the sharpest knives in any drawer I've been in. That often led me to think I didn't need to tap others' knowledge, I could learn it for myself. I was usually right, but at a huge cost of time and opportunity.

      I'm getting better at #4. I never do my own coding projects from scratch, and I hardly ever do my own graphics (unless it's a minor tweak to something I already own - like changing text on a button or adding a url to a photo.)
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
      Originally Posted by Zanti View Post

      It sounds like the key element between what TheAngelGuy and Brian have shared is balance between action and preparation.
      The Ying and the Yang if you will. Maybe we'd be good together on a project? LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Wow John, those are some great mistakes to learn from, thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author ArnieD
      Could I ask:

      What is back end sales?

      and

      What is front end sales?
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Avrohom View Post

        Could I ask:

        What is back end sales?

        and

        What is front end sales?
        Let's start with front end sales...

        That's the first sale you make, with the intention of selling the same buyer additional products at a later date.

        There are two different types of back end product.

        The kind you sell that buyer immediately, in the form of upsells (getting them to add additional items or upgrade to a more expensive version of the product) and OTOs (One Time Offers) where the buyer is given a chance to buy another, possibly even unrelated product at a discount. But only if they buy immediately, before they leave the OTO page.

        The second kind of back end product is part of a planned sales funnel, usually leading buyers to more and more expensive products over a period of time.

        A typical funnel in IM might be:

        > a $7 report
        > a $27 ebook
        > a $97 multimedia product
        > a $497 home study course
        > a $97/month membership program
        > a $2997 group coaching group or live event
        > a $10,000 personal mentoring program

        The idea is to lead willing buyers to spend more and more with you after you've gotten past the hurdle of the initial sale.

        This is a very basic example. You can make things as complicated as you like by adding and subtracting items from the funnel. Add in your own products and affiliate products and you open up more possibilities.

        Did this help?
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        • Profile picture of the author ArnieD
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post


          The second kind of back end product is part of a planned sales funnel, usually leading buyers to more and more expensive products over a period of time.

          A typical funnel in IM might be:

          > a $7 report
          > a $27 ebook
          > a $97 multimedia product
          > a $497 home study course
          > a $97/month membership program
          > a $2997 group coaching group or live event
          > a $10,000 personal mentoring program

          The idea is to lead willing buyers to spend more and more with you after you've gotten past the hurdle of the initial sale.

          This is a very basic example. You can make things as complicated as you like by adding and subtracting items from the funnel. Add in your own products and affiliate products and you open up more possibilities.

          Did this help?
          I just wanted to thank you, JohnMcCabe, for your very thorough and helpful answer. Everything you wrote was helpful (I just abbreviated it here since it is rather lengthy)

          I didn't see your answer right away -- that's why I'm so late in responding.

          Arnie
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    • Profile picture of the author jewin
      Originally Posted by Midas15 View Post

      Never give up. Don't loose your self. Be cool.
      This rings very true to me. I've been involved in IM since 1998. My first experience was doing membership sites in college... and let me say, the recurring income was beautiful. Once my operation was up and running, I kept adding more and more sites... I couldn't have asked for much more.

      Fast forward to the present, I've been working the SEO angle on a couple sites over the past 12 months. Not that nothing has come of it, but we're still not cashflow positive. That being said, after 12 months, I've nothing left to do but come back here, sharpen the saw, pull myself up from my bootstraps and keep trying.

      As far as mistakes go; there have been many, but you can't look at them with a sense of disappointment or get down on yourself. As others have said, they are learning experiences. My biggest mistake has not been reaching out to others on WF and LEARNING more!
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      • Profile picture of the author Stacey Wockenfuss
        Having a whole bunch of knowledge and doing nothing with it. I worked as a VA for years to top internet marketers, and I was so busy getting their work done...I never put the info into motion for myself.

        If you have a great idea no matter what it is, act on it. Also putting all my eggs in one basket. I've done that several times in the past.

        Not backing up data on my computer. Bad idea! I learned form my mistakes and I pushed through the wall a few years back.

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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Thanks Stacey,

    That really hit home. I had a client who once told me "I've put a lot of bricks in others peoples building, but I don't have any bricks of my own." What he meant was that I had made millions for other people but none for myself. I've spent a lifetime of gathering information to help others, but I didn't use that information to help myself. That's all about to change.

    Thanks for sharing your mistakes, I've learned so much from all of you and so much about myself.

    Keep the mistakes coming, I have so much more to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author malfumos
    At first I would rather tell them to be physically ready and mentally.
    2. Be prepared for their skills.
    3. Don't look to much work if you have already let the buyers find you if you are very good.
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    I easily get distracted when working at home. So I now have a set plan and stick to it with one hourly rewards - biscuit, cup of coffee, read chapter of favorite book.
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  • Profile picture of the author amotivatedmom
    Getting involved in too many projects...
    Thus not being able to complete many or any of them...
    Information overload...
    Allowing myself to be distracted by the next best thing, lol...
    Biggest lesson I am learning to trust my instincts, believe in myself and choose wisely who I align myself with online and offline.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I have learned that as long as I learned something from my mistakes it wasn't really a mistake
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  • Profile picture of the author TanB
    I see at my mistakes as closer steps toward success - Thanks GOD I did not give up!

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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    So nicholasb, what have you learned that if you were starting today you wouldn't repeat?
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    • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
      Originally Posted by Zanti View Post

      So nicholasb, what have you learned that if you were starting today you wouldn't repeat?
      that action first is far better than perfection, you can listen to what others tell you is right but until you experience what works for you and what doesnt you will never know,

      you can work on perfection as you go, because you will never know what is right or wrong if you just listen and believe what everyone keeps trying to tell you.

      you need to make mistakes in order to find a perfect system that works for you
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      • Profile picture of the author Synthia Parker
        Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

        that action first is far better than perfection, you can listen to what others tell you is right but until you experience what works for you and what doesnt you will never know,

        you can work on perfection as you go, because you will never know what is right or wrong if you just listen and believe what everyone keeps trying to tell you.

        you need to make mistakes in order to find a perfect system that works for you
        I am agree with Nicholasb. The main problem with many of us is we realize the importance of learning from the mistakes but we do not understand how to take appropriate actions against them. So I think we should stick to our decisions about taking actions in right time.
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  • Profile picture of the author yoshiko
    One weakness is Procrastinating and not materialising ideas. I have been trying to overcome this and seeing results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Craig, your #1 is spot on.

    Chalky, I'm trying hard not to fall into that trap.

    Much wisdom Tina, especially the last one. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    Thanks nicholasb for the insight, I would agree with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrs Z
    Trying to learn too much, from too many, too soon.
    Information overload!!!
    I've stepped back...to square one...I'll go back to my sites and blogs...one at a time...and try to salvage what I can...get rid of what I can't.... and try to get it 'right' this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author joan.gibbs.27
    I have done many mistakes in my life which I wish I could erase from my life and set them in a proper way. I have learned never to look back for what I could have done rather to seek and take the right path not to do these kind of mistakes anymore.

    Thanks...
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  • Profile picture of the author joan.gibbs.27
    I have done many mistakes in my life which I wish I could erase from my life and set them in a proper way. However, I have learned never to look back for what I could have done, rather to seek and take the right path for never to face these kind of mistakes anymore.

    Thanks...
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  • Profile picture of the author andybeveridge
    Mine would be planning. Without it you just end up going round in circles. Well I did anyway. In fact I spent two years doing that. There is so much info out there, so its easy to overload. However if you have a planned day ahead of you it becomes so much easier.
    Also not follow too many people at once. We all end up on several lists and its easy to end up listening to too many ideas. Once I unsubscribed to a few and just followed those that I really trusted things began to fall into place.

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    Learn from my mistakes... Well, one thing I learned is that when you are setting up the coffee maker to make a full pot of coffee, make sure you put the pot in place to collect the coffee before you run off to get a few things done while it is making. Serious mess.

    And, test your backup system. Thought I was backed up once and then when I needed it found out I couldn't get the information off it. Fortunately nothing too serious and I wound up recovering more than I expected.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I made the mistake of jumping into a subject I was really interested in but really didn't have any plan for other than to blog my butt off just to find the affiliate products were hard to find, over priced, the affiliate companies were messed up - you name it.
    I had a good time ranting for awhile, but made nothing from it.
    I had a chance to start another in a JV recently and had the good sense to do some research and back out before we started when I found the work was going to be major and extremely difficult to monetize.

    I also found out that for every mistake you make now, there are two more waiting just up the road if you don't watch your footing real well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alminc
    Mistake #1 : Outsourcing the creation of 'money making' website
    I outsourced the creation of a site that was supposed to make $1000/mo after 6 months to a guy who disappeared after 3 months leaving me with almost useless site.
    I paid him $4500 and he did a work worth $1500.

    What I've learned? If someone promises $xxx or $xxxx earnings as a result of service, 'secret', expertize, coaching...whatever...I know it's a BS!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zanti
    As someone just starting off each of your shares have something of value to me. Thank you. Even in just starting out the first mistake I made was not organizing. In another thread I started I asked for some advice in this area and received some great assistance that I have already put into action.

    What has been important for me in this thread is, as I take my experience from other areas in business and begin to apply it to IM'ing there have already been a lot of holes that I have been able to walk around instead of falling in and wasting valuable time trying to climb out. I have no doubt that I will make mistakes, and I will learn from those mistakes, part of the process of being human. I will also share my mistakes with others to help them to avoid falling in the holes that I have. Which in turn helps me to heighten my awareness.

    What your shares have given me is increased awareness. As a long time martial arts instructor, one of the 1st things that anyone can do to keep themselves safe is developing awareness of what is going on around them and avoid possible threats. The more one works on awareness, you begin to see the big obvious threats sooner than those who have not developed awareness. As you continue to develop awareness you begin to notice the small details of less obvious threats. You may not always be perfect in your avoidance, but you will react faster. If you become to caught up in the details of what my be a possible threat, you become stiff in your movements, you lose fluidity and weaken your ability to to take proper action. Increased awareness my not keep you from avoiding every hole, but instead of not seeing the hole at all and falling to the bottom, your quicker reaction will give you the opportunity to catch your balance, grab the sides and pull yourself up with less lost of energy.

    Think about it, why have the great IM'er become great, because they have increased awareness that they put into action. They learned from their mistakes, their teacher's mistakes, and other's mistakes and were able to react faster to new niches, methods, techniques and ideas. And what do so many of them do, they share their information with a new course, new e-book, etc... and what do those of us who are also searching for success do? We buy the course or e-book, in the hope (either conscious or unconscious) that this information will increase our awareness, avoid some mistakes and move us on the path towards success.

    So for me that is why this thread has been so important, it is allowing me to increase my awareness and enhance my actions. Awareness + Action = Success.

    It takes courage to share one's mistakes with others, it takes a Warrior.

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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Buy 1 ebook/ system and follow it. Not buy 10 ebooks/systems and use none or parts of them.
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    • Also, over complicating the whole product creation process. Sometimes I tend to try to make everything just mint perfect (unnecessarily so) so the whole process takes double as long as it should have. I need to learn to make things easier to gain speed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richvanstratum
      Yup,

      I agree with a lot of people here. Don't buy every Guru launch, buy one system or product and focus on it. Take action everyday. Don't get sucked in by the hype. Learn and apply every single day.

      And never give up.

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