concerns about my WSO

11 years ago

Originally Posted by CrisisCore08

Hello fellow warriors!
A few weeks back I have decide what will be my next step in internet marketing. A blog, personal blog. I have already figured out what will it be about, how it will look, from where to buy the theme, the logo, SEO and hosting. The only problem I have is my budget, I'm working right now and I'm saving every cent for higher education and it is really hard for me to risk money on IM and I can't put my hands for any amount over 100$ so I was thinking to create about 5 sales pages/thank you pages and put together a WSO and maybe raze enough money for my real IM dream but I have a few concerns with that tactic:
1) The 40$ for WSO is a HUGE chunk of my overall budget and I will need to work for weeks to save this much.
2) There are a lot of graphic packages with really good sales pages and maybe people would prefer another more experienced saler.
3) Creating 5 well done sales pages + 5 thank you pages will take a lot of time and it might fail
4) I should be able to setup the pages but I have no source of graphic to use for the pages and getting them might be costly (I know that there are some in the war room but the rights are not clear about it)

Any words of advice/tips about my concerns?

It would be better if you post your services on warrior for hire or any freelance site... speaking out of experience, WSO which show how to make money are more successful.. thats what people use the section for...

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Dragone

11 years ago

You seem to be coming from a position of lots of self doubt. I think before listing a WSO you should be expecting to make at least a few hundred and worst case cover your costs for listing.

Go on to google images, change it to basic, then go to advanced options and you can specify to search from free commercial images to use. Naturally the selection will be a lot less but you should be able to find something to fit your requirement.

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Alex Blades

11 years ago

Any words of advice/tips about my concerns?

You worry to much, stop worrying and start doing. Only one way to find out, and that is to start testing. Everything comes with a risk of losing money, so if you're not willing to lose some money, then don't get involved

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CrisisCore08

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark .W. James

It would be better if you post your services on warrior for hire or any freelance site... speaking out of experience, WSO which show how to make money are more successful.. thats what people use the section for...

I'm not offering any services..?
And beside, I don't have any secret method (or any) on how to make money.

Originally Posted by Dragone

You seem to be coming from a position of lots of self doubt. I think before listing a WSO you should be expecting to make at least a few hundred and worst case cover your costs for listing.

Go on to google images, change it to basic, then go to advanced options and you can specify to search from free commercial images to use. Naturally the selection will be a lot less but you should be able to find something to fit your requirement.

I understand that the on the worst case I won't lose much but it might be the final punch. One of the things I learned here is that marketers will try to rush your decisions but as one of those, I know that I needed to take things slow and be carful.
And thanks for the google tip, seems to be helpful!

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

You worry to much, stop worrying and start doing. Only one way to find out, and that is to start testing. Everything comes with a risk of losing money, so if you're not willing to lose some money, then don't get involved

It is not so easy to start doing when many odds are stacked against you, people are keep saying that it is a business not a hobby and you don't see people opening businesses in a rush. Although I do agree that I worry to much and I should at least start doing something.

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brutecky

11 years ago

Originally Posted by CrisisCore08

and it is really hard for me to risk money on IM and I can't put my hands for any amount over 100$

This is the thing that really stands out for me. Let me explain. When I started my first company at age 20 (computer repair back when it was hot) I spent all my money on the store front. Literally I slept in the back because I couldnt afford an appartment and the store. I got showers at my girlfriends house and ate food I cooked on a hot plate because I had no kitchen. Fast forward 2 years and I had a new car and a house paid for out right.

The point Im trying to make is that IF you believe in what your going to do then you should be willing to risk everything .. I mean why wouldnt you .. you believe in what your doing. If your not willing to put everything on the line then your just making a half hearted effort. In that case you should probably do something else.

Oh and about the WSO .. it probably wont be that profitable.

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CrisisCore08

11 years ago

Originally Posted by brutecky

This is the thing that really stands out for me. Let me explain. When I started my first company at age 20 (computer repair back when it was hot) I spent all my money on the store front. Literally I slept in the back because I couldnt afford an appartment and the store. I got showers at my girlfriends house and ate food I cooked on a hot plate because I had no kitchen. Fast forward 2 years and I had a new car and a house paid for out right.

The point Im trying to make is that IF you believe in what your going to do then you should be willing to risk everything .. I mean why wouldnt you .. you believe in what your doing. If your not willing to put everything on the line then your just making a half hearted effort. In that case you should probably do something else.

Oh and about the WSO .. it probably wont be that profitable.

I do want to make this happen although it is not my one and only dream. I don't see myself as a full time bloger or internet marketer in the future but I do want to use the internet for another goal, starting my blog.
You are right, I'm not willing to risk everything because it is a lot to lose and again, it is not what I want to do, it is just a step for my bigger goal.

About the WSO, could you explain your point? I understand that it won't be anything viral nor major but I will be perfectly happy walking away with 100$-150$.

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Sam Mann

11 years ago

If you have a decent offer then you will walk away with $200 or more but I sincerely hope that your wso is NOT about how to make money online

~ Sam.

I highly recommend you get started by selling your services.

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travlinguy

11 years ago

There's an old saying in business and in life. That is, scared money always loses.

I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to do. Are you talking about selling PLR sales/thank you/landing pages as a WSO? What makes you think they would be successful? And if that's what you mean (I apologize if that's NOT what you mean) you aren't going to get any decent graphics from Google Images. Not enough to create 5 pages of material.

Right now you want to make the very same mistake that is the kiss of death to soooo many new people. You want to take your eyes off what you're doing and chase another rabbit. Here's another old saying. Chase two rabbits and you're sure to lose both of them.

Stick with what you're doing and save the WSO creation for when you're ready.

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WillR

11 years ago

What are you hoping to achieve from setting up your blog? It's not something that is going to start making you money any time soon. You should instead concentrate on tasks that are going to make you money. If you want to do the WSO then do it. You don't get anywhere without risk though. It would have to be a pretty bad WSO to not at least get your money back. But you should do your research first and find out what people actually want. Don't just create things you think the market wants. That's a sure fire way to make no money.

I'm not really sure sales page templates are that big a seller these days.

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brutecky

11 years ago

See your post just now confuses me:

Originally Posted by CrisisCore08

I don't see myself as a full time bloger or internet marketer in the future but I do want to use the internet for another goal, starting my blog.

You dont see yourself as a full time bloger but you want to use the internet for another goal, starting a blog... but you dont want to be a full time bloger.

Originally Posted by CrisisCore08

I understand that it won't be anything viral nor major but I will be perfectly happy walking away with 100$-150$.

$150 profit would mean $190 in sales (to cover the $40 fee) .. so now you have to think of how much time is it going to take you to make the WSO. Assuming you do everything yourself, code, layout graphics for 10 pages (5 sales pages , 5 thank yours) and assuming that each page takes you 2 hours to do then that means your working 20 hours for $150 thats $7.50 per hour. Not worth doing. If you outsource the work of making the pages then your spending less time, but your net profit is less. So either way not worth doing.

Originally Posted by travlinguy

Chase two rabbits and you're sure to lose both of them.

Best advice ever. Either go ALL IN on marketing / blogging / whatever .. or dont do it at all. Sounds like you want to go to school. Well then go ALL IN on that and leave the WSO alone. If you need cash get a job washing dishes, its mindless work so you can focus on school and its a guaranteed paycheck which a WSO is not.

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CrisisCore08

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Sam Mann

If you have a decent offer then you will walk away with $200 or more but I sincerely hope that your wso is NOT about how to make money online

~ Sam.

I highly recommend you get started by selling your services.

No, it won't be about money making

Originally Posted by travlinguy

There's an old saying in business and in life. That is, scared money always loses.

I can't make heads or tails of what you're trying to do. Are you talking about selling PLR sales/thank you/landing pages as a WSO? What makes you think they would be successful? And if that's what you mean (I apologize if that's NOT what you mean) you aren't going to get any decent graphics from Google Images. Not enough to create 5 pages of material.

Right now you want to make the very same mistake that is the kiss of death to soooo many new people. You want to take your eyes off what you're doing and chase another rabbit. Here's another old saying. Chase two rabbits and you're sure to lose both of them.

Stick with what you're doing and save the WSO creation for when you're ready.

Just to be clear, I'm not planning to use google as a main source of graphic.

I can see from where you are coming, you think that I should focus on one thing and I'm. When someone is getting a sales man job he is not planning to be one for ever right? I'm going to work very hard on this specific project while thinking of it first.

Originally Posted by WillR

What are you hoping to achieve from setting up your blog? It's not something that is going to start making you money any time soon. You should instead concentrate on tasks that are going to make you money. If you want to do the WSO then do it. You don't get anywhere without risk though. It would have to be a pretty bad WSO to not at least get your money back. But you should do your research first and find out what people actually want. Don't just create things you think the market wants. That's a sure fire way to make no money.

I'm not really sure sales page templates are that big a seller these days.

I know that it is not going to be a huge WSO, it probably won't be the greatest templates that the forum has ever seen but I'm just trying to get a little bit extra money, that's all.
I'm planning to make a small research to decide which niches to focus on.

Originally Posted by brutecky

See your post just now confuses me:

You dont see yourself as a full time bloger but you want to use the internet for another goal, starting a blog... but you dont want to be a full time bloger.

$150 profit would mean $190 in sales (to cover the $40 fee) .. so now you have to think of how much time is it going to take you to make the WSO. Assuming you do everything yourself, code, layout graphics for 10 pages (5 sales pages , 5 thank yours) and assuming that each page takes you 2 hours to do then that means your working 20 hours for $150 thats $7.50 per hour. Not worth doing. If you outsource the work of making the pages then your spending less time, but your net profit is less. So either way not worth doing.

Best advice ever. Either go ALL IN on marketing / blogging / whatever .. or dont do it at all. Sounds like you want to go to school. Well then go ALL IN on that and leave the WSO alone. If you need cash get a job washing dishes, its mindless work so you can focus on school and its a guaranteed paycheck which a WSO is not.

The time estimate is not correct, the first one will take about 2-3 hours but since then it will go much faster because I have a base to work on, the changes will be relatively small.
And about the plan, everyone assumes that he will have a wife right? but also a car, a house and a white fence. I do want to have a blog but I don't want it to be my full time income.

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brutecky

11 years ago

Well lots of people have given you great advice and you have done nothing but argue with every bit of advise you have gotten. Guess your just going to have to find out for yourself.

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Alex Blades

11 years ago

Well lots of people have given you great advice and you have done nothing but argue with every bit of advise you have gotten.

That's because he hasn't heard the advice he was looking for...

Yes!!! You will make boat loads of money selling your templates as a WSO!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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CrisisCore08

11 years ago

Originally Posted by brutecky

Well lots of people have given you great advice and you have done nothing but argue with every bit of advise you have gotten. Guess your just going to have to find out for yourself.

Actually if you read carefully you will see that I never question an advice, it is just that some people miss read the situation.

Originally Posted by Alex Blades

That's because he hasn't heard the advice he was looking for...

Yes!!! You will make boat loads of money selling your templates as a WSO!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Joking of course.

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JennySweets 11 years ago

Originally Posted by CrisisCore08

Actually if you read carefully you will see that I never question an advice, it is just that some people miss read the situation.

We can only read what you say - and what you are saying is confused, contradictory, and in some cases. nonsensical. Definitely unfocused.

If you are set on trying the WSO out - just do it.

However if I were you, I'd think about offering your services as a sales page creator in the WF classifieds first. First you will get paid job by job. Second you will build a reputation for being good, if you are good - which means you will have support if you Do launch a WSO. Third you will be able to contact your clients to let them know you have a WSO if you launch one in the future.

As it is, your spelling and grammar leave me wondering how good your sales pages would be, as does your general inability to give an organized, clear presentation of your question.
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Vector Graphics

11 years ago

No business ever got successful without taking risks. To make a business succeed you are going to have to try things that may not and will not work. You are also going to end up spending money that could have been better spent somewhere else.

The point I am trying to make is that it does not matter what you want to do you are going to have to take risks to get it!

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Gengis

11 years ago

You need to start taking action and stop being so afraid of the what ifs .. Nobody in life that has achieved success in any given field or business did it with so much self doubt.

Start Being an Action Taker!

Gengis

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DubDubDubDot

11 years ago

Launching a blog does not cost over $100.

Hosting... $10/mo or less
Domain... $10
WordPress... Free
Template... Thousands of free ones to choose from
Logo... Free (just make your own plain text based logo)
SEO... NEVER put your SEO in the hands of someone else

Blogs take months if not years to really get going. You can go cheap on this stuff early on because nobody is reading anyway. As you produce more content and it (hopefully) starts to bring in more traffic, then you can make design upgrades.

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