How to Remove Your Stolen Products from Hacker/Warez/Download Sites...

[Akky]

Fantastic post mate . I think this should be a sticky!

[Didier Faucher]

- I live in France.

- I want to try to stop some b$£$*% [censored] from Malaysia
(he's also a Warrior! or better to say "a member of the WF")
who is illegally selling one of my product (and made fun of me each
time I asked him politely to delete it from his websites).

Do you think this technique will work?


Didier

[Jesus Perez]

Hey Didier.

This technique will work on 90% of hosts. The ones in Russia, China, etc will be harder. Not too sure about Malaysia. Eventually, this person's host will use upstream bandwidth from a US host. Usually, pressure from the upstream provider may be enough to have content in the downstream channel removed. It's definitely worth a try.

Originally Posted by Didier Faucher

- I live in France.

- I want to try to stop some b$*% [censored] from Malaysia
(he's also a Warrior! or better to say "a member of the WF")
who is illegally selling one of my product (and made fun of me each
time I asked him politely to delete it from his websites).

Do you think this technique will work?


Didier

[Didier Faucher]

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

Hey Didier.

This technique will work on 90% of hosts. The ones in Russia, China, etc will be harder. Not too sure about Malaysia. Eventually, this person's host will use upstream bandwidth from a US host. Usually, pressure from the upstream provider may be enough to have content in the downstream channel removed. It's definitely worth a try.

Thank you Jesus.

His hosting company is ThePlanet.com (USA).
His domain names are registered to Enom.com (USA).

Not sure of his physical location. It's either Malaysia or Bangladesh.

I have some contradictory data about him. Quite sure the Malay and
Bangladeshi guys are the same, as they use the same pseudo on forums,
websites, email addresses, etc. ("ari//yes").


But I'm French and live in France, so not sure DMCA notice will work
for me in this case. Not even sure I can use it, as I'm a non-US citizen.


Didier

[Jesus Perez]

Yes, it will work. ThePlanet is *extremely* responsive to these issues. Send the DMCA there. Use the exact template I provided in the first post. Do not get personal in your response. Use the template straight-out.

Let me know when MGP 2 comes out. Your work kicks butt.

Originally Posted by Didier Faucher

Thank you Jesus.

His hosting company is ThePlanet.com (USA).
His domain names are registered to Enom.com (USA).

Not sure of his physical location. It's either Malaysia or Bangladesh.

I have some contradictory data about him. Quite sure the Malay and
Bangladeshi guys are the same, as they use the same pseudo on forums,
websites, email addresses, etc. ("ariyes").


But I'm French and live in France, so not sure DMCA notice will work
for me in this case. Not even sure I can use it, as I'm a non-US citizen.


Didier

[Didier Faucher]

Originally Posted by BlueSquares

Let me know when MGP 2 comes out. Your work kicks butt.

Yes, will do, as I told you previously.
I remember the email you sent me some time ago.

I think you truly will be shocked with MGP V.2.

Jesus, thank you again for your kind words, your help and your amiability.

Didier

[laghabek]

I just found this thread.
Wow! Lots of valuable information - want to keep it as reference.

I personally like to do a lot of research and create good products and I DON'T want someone to steal it and sell for peanuts.

Hopefully I will not need this information ever

Thanks again,
Lia

[Texjd]

Guys, do a search on warez or bitTorrent sites and you'll find as many as you want to look at that have every single ebook, software, or whatever for free. These guys are completely illegal but have servers disbursed in areas where no law applies.

Microsoft and the big boys can't shut them down, so what can the basic IM guy/gal do about it?

If you think sending them an email will stop this I'm sorry to say you are mistaken.

Someone operating in US or other place of law, maybe. But this group will never be shut down since they are safe from any punitive measures.

You might not even want to go look, it will make you ill to see all of the stuff they give away that someone put a lot of money and effort to produce.

The only good news is most legit buyers, everyday people are not aware of them and most likely would never download the software illegally anyway.

[Angela V. Edwards]

Originally Posted by Texjd

Guys, do a search on warez or bitTorrent sites and you'll find as many as you want to look at that have every single ebook, software, or whatever for free. These guys are completely illegal but have servers disbursed in areas where no law applies.

Microsoft and the big boys can't shut them down, so what can the basic IM guy/gal do about it?

If you think sending them an email will stop this I'm sorry to say you are mistaken.

Someone operating in US or other place of law, maybe. But this group will never be shut down since they are safe from any punitive measures.

You might not even want to go look, it will make you ill to see all of the stuff they give away that someone put a lot of money and effort to produce.

The only good news is most legit buyers, everyday people are not aware of them and most likely would never download the software illegally anyway.

Exactly. Pretty much the only people that know about those sites are thieves and people who have had thieves steal their stuff.

I've had "black hatters" giving away my stuff and on the Black Hat forum, I had a user name that I used a total of about 3 times; each time asking them to take down my stuff. The other day I got four emails from people telling me my stuff was being given away AGAIN over there. I went to log in and lo and behold, I had been banned for "breaking a rule" (yeah, right.)

I found a site that instantly tells you who hosts a website and it appears to be VERY accurate. I wrote to the Black Hat forum's host and it didn't take long before the thread was removed and I got an email letting me know it had been removed and telling me to let them know if any other threads needed to go.

Sometimes contacting the host can work wonders.

Instantly find a website's host

[MikeAmbrosio]

When I was a webhost several years ago I had to deal with this kind of thing. I had one client who was giving away someone elses product. I have had other clients ask me for help getting their pirated products removed from a few of these sites.

What a pain in the @$$ alright.

BlueSquares (Jesus) advice is pretty good. It's basically what I would do back then.

But before you spend an inordinate amount of time and money trying to beat them, consider a few things first...

- If companies like Microsoft, Adobe, and any other big name software developer can't beat them, don't kid yourself - you won't be able to either.

- How much of your sanity is this worth to you?

- Putting "safeguards" in place such as a password, verification to a server, or even expiring download links will almost certainly increase your support tickets. If you are a one person operation, be prepared for that.

I am not suggesting that you shouldn't protect your business. Simply stating that you need to weigh out anything you plan to do to protect yourself. Is the extra sales you make worth the added support?

Something to keep in mind.

Mike

[Angela V. Edwards]

Well, for ME it would be worth it, Mike, due to the fact that the theft is actually RUINING some of the sites in my product. But you have some very good points.

[MikeAmbrosio]

Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards

Well, for ME it would be worth it, Mike, due to the fact that the theft is actually RUINING some of the sites in my product. But you have some very good points.

So true. I purchased your package a while back and you're right. So in your case, for sure.

I know it's hard when you discover your products were pirated. But dealing with this first hand, I know the frustration and expense of trying to thwart this. It's one of the deciding factors for me to leave the hosting business.

Glad I did

Mike

[esh]

Thanks a lot, a lot of blackhat forums gives my product for free

Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

How interesting.

Some tool named Ben / Benji just bought my product, downloaded it, and then immediately claimed un-authorized purchase to paypal.

I guess he didnt like it much?

Are you serious ...What a looser.... I wonder why he never answered my question

James

[nizhama2]

This is new information to me. I found tons of positive information here. Thanks

[Jesus Perez]

Originally Posted by Texjd

Guys, do a search on warez or bitTorrent sites..

I'm not even trying to go there. Once you're on BitTorrent, there's only a few things you can do.

1) Claim it has a virus.
2) Upload a "fake" in it's place with watered down info and aff links. You may turn a profit!

Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards

I wrote to the Black Hat forum's host and it didn't take long before the thread was removed and I got an email letting me know it had been removed and telling me to let them know if any other threads needed to go.

Sometimes contacting the host can work wonders.

Instantly find a website's host

Yes, it works. Glad you figured this one out.

This thread refers to the majority of honest hosts. This method will not work for BitTorrent or Russian/Hack sites that know what they're doing.

For me, it takes seconds to shoot off a DMCA notice since it's already in my "Sent" folder.