is it worth the money to post a WSO?

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I have written an eBook that teaches step-by-step how to make money on Amazon Kindle. I've made $5,000 using the method and so I've decided it was the best thing I could write an information product on. I've already made a sales page on JVZoo. I've only made 1 sale so far, and it was from one of my 2 affiliates. Should I expect should a slow start-up like this? Or am I doing something wrong? Should I be trying to drive traffic to it? If so, in what ways can I drive traffic to the page? And should I get a domain for it?
Or, is the problem the place I'm selling it? Should I make my own website and sell it there?
Or should I make a WSO?
But, is a WSO worth the investment? Will I likely make back my investment? It costs $37 for the membership, plus $40 to post the WSO. That's $77. Or $97 if I make use Warrior+.
Is Warrior+ worth it? Or should I just use JVZoo?

I know there are so many questions, but please answer whatever ones you can.

Thank you for the help!
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  • Profile picture of the author datingworld
    But, is a WSO worth the investment? Will I likely make back my investment? It costs $37 for the membership, plus $40 to post the WSO. That's $77.
    The $37 investment will also give you access to war room for next 20 years, so I think don't count it with WSO cost, you might need war room membership one day.

    I would suggest, try to sell it in WSO section and see how it goes, unless you try, you would never know.
    Good Luck with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Okay. You've made $5000 on Kindle. Your outlay to find out how the WSO process works first hand will be $77 or $97, depending. If I were you I'd search this forum for as much "how to" WSO stuff as you can find. There are also a half dozen relatively cheap guides on how to run successful WSOs.

    After you've filled your head to the brim then do it. You'll spend $100 or less and get a lot more realistic knowledge than you'll find from people commenting here, many of them never having done it at all but more than willing to explain something they don't know themselves. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      you'll find from people commenting here, many of them never having done it at all but more than willing to explain something they don't know themselves.

      LOL

      That is what they call shining the light on darkness. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author John Atkins
    It depends a lot on the product and how you present it (the salescopy). The WSO section is a large marketplace and if you do everything properly then it's definitely worth the price. That's why a lot of people sell stuff over there.
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    • Profile picture of the author goneebo
      Originally Posted by John Atkins View Post

      It depends a lot on the product and how you present it (the salescopy). The WSO section is a large marketplace and if you do everything properly then it's definitely worth the price. That's why a lot of people sell stuff over there.
      Agreed!

      Why Do you think warriors are re-posting their wso, and pay $40 per bump as soon as they hit page 3?

      Because they turn a profit doing so.
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  • Profile picture of the author isadoregregory
    You never know unless you try. Some people will tell you yes, they made a lot of money from a WSO, some of them might say no, but you know, its going to be case to case basis. You will only know it once you try. The point is you need to figure it out since what you offer is something unique. Who knows? It's worth trying if there's a chance you could probably earn a lot from it. If you lose, then, its not really that much, isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author isadoregregory
    Here's a wonderful quote I would like to share with you....

    "Don’t listen to those who say ‘you taking too big a chance.’ Michelangelo would have painted the Sistine floor, and it would surely be rubbed out by today. Most important, don’t listen when the little voice of fear inside you rears its ugly head and says ‘they all smarter than you out there. They’re more talented, they’re taller, blonder, prettier, luckier, and they have connections.” I firmly believe that if you follow a path that interests you, not to the exclusion of love, sensitivity, and cooperation with others, but with the strength of conviction that you can move others by your own efforts—and do not make success or failure the criteria by which you live—the chances are you’ll be a person worthy of your own respects. – Neil Simon
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by TemperThompson View Post

    I have written an eBook that teaches step-by-step how to make money on Amazon Kindle. I've made $5,000 using the method and so I've decided it was the best thing I could write an information product on. I've already made a sales page on JVZoo. I've only made 1 sale so far, and it was from one of my 2 affiliates. Should I expect should a slow start-up like this? Or am I doing something wrong? Should I be trying to drive traffic to it? If so, in what ways can I drive traffic to the page? And should I get a domain for it?
    Or, is the problem the place I'm selling it? Should I make my own website and sell it there?
    Or should I make a WSO?
    But, is a WSO worth the investment? Will I likely make back my investment? It costs $37 for the membership, plus $40 to post the WSO. That's $77. Or $97 if I make use Warrior+.
    Is Warrior+ worth it? Or should I just use JVZoo?

    I know there are so many questions, but please answer whatever ones you can.

    Thank you for the help!
    This post should help you out some:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...fer-bumps.html

    RoD
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  • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
    Originally Posted by TemperThompson View Post

    But, is a WSO worth the investment? Will I likely make back my investment? It costs $37 for the membership, plus $40 to post the WSO. That's $77. Or $97 if I make use Warrior+.
    Only if you truly believe your ebook is of value. If you do, then it's worth it. People buy value and appreciate it when they get it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Products about how to make money with Amazon Kindle publishing are pretty popular.

    You figured out how to make thousands of dollars as an Amazon publisher. Surely you can figure out how to sell enough copies of your front end product in a WSO to be profitable. But that's just customer acquisition. What's your back end strategy to maximize the value of each customer?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark .W. James
    1. Do you think so many people would be bumping their threads so often if it did not work?

    2. I sell a Kindle product myself as a WSO and its doing really good... your product should be good, your service should be better...
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
    Some will tell you that you have nothing to lose and you won't know unless you try but I can tell you this, no matter how great you think that your product is, if you don't put in place some key components you will most certainly be disappointed.


    The quote below from your post tells me plenty!

    Originally Posted by TemperThompson View Post

    Should I be trying to drive traffic to it? If so, in what ways can I drive traffic to the page?
    The ole saying "Build it and they will come" is a recipe for disaster. Normally you would reach out to JV partners/affiliates but seeing that you are new and most likely have not built relationships with fellow members would make it difficult.


    Your best bet would be to get your product on your own domain, create a squeeze page and give away a short report about the business model without giving away the meat and potatoes. When your visitors opt-in, send them to your offer before redirecting them to the download page but you need to learn how to send traffic to it, you can start by putting a link in your signature.

    Get a warroom membership and learn how to drive traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    If you WSO offers a SOLID value and CLEARLY communicates that value, you WILL ALWAYS get your money back. Notice that there are 2 requirements?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I think any product that can't make back the WSO listing fee would have to be a pretty terrible product. It doesn't take much to make that many sales. If you have the product all setup then your next job is to find affiliates to promote it for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    There was a time when you could set up a WSO without any concern about affiliates, and you could make some serious cash.

    These days, you NEED your affiliates.

    To put this into better perspective, my biggest selling product in the WSO marketplace was one that received 87% of its total sales from affiliates.

    You need to think about what affiliates want as far as your pricing goes, and you have to recognize that people make a decision to promote a product as an affiliate based on what they rightfully believe they will be paid as a commission on the offer.

    Most affiliates simply will not promote a product priced under $7, because they know that they are only going to get -- in most cases -- 50% of the sale. If the price is too low, affiliates won't make enough money to make it worth their time to construct an email sales letter that will convert well.

    I frequently spend an hour or two going over a product, then I spend another hour writing the sales email. That could be the reason that I see such high conversion rates on most offers I mail. I take the time to find out why my customers will want to purchase the product, then I tell my customers why they should want to buy the product.

    I frequently get higher sales conversion rates than the vendor is capable of doing on his/her own. Many folks can attest to that. I even have a track record of getting great conversions on offers with terrible sales copy. This week has been no exception to that rule. I have gotten some tremendous conversion numbers of offers that had awful sales pages.

    If you don't give affiliates what they want, affiliates will not give you what you want!! Affiliates want enough commissions to make the review and sales copy writing process worthwhile, and you want more eyeballs with higher conversion rates, higher sales, and more people on your buyer's mailing list.

    One affiliate that operates within a tight-knit group of affiliate marketers in the same niche could make your offer work, by getting those other affiliates on-board.

    But that cuts both ways.

    One affiliate could help you achieve great success by hooking you up with the right affiliates, and one affiliate could kill your ability to find other affiliates. That is just the way the cookie crumbles in this business.

    The people who achieve large sales with their products tend to be folks who understand the value of networking with the right people and keeping affiliates happy and interested.

    The people who fail are those who take affiliates for granted or completely ignore the importance of affiliates in the equation.

    Bottom line. If you want to have a large product launch, you should appreciate the value of creating relationships and giving honor to those people with whom you have built a relationship.

    As with most all businesses, product launches and affiliate marketing are both a "relationship business". You must build great relationships and nurture those relationships for the greater good.

    If you fail to build and nurture the relationships with your affiliates, then you are probably not cut out for the WSO marketplace.
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    • Profile picture of the author brutecky
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      There was a time when you could set up a WSO without any concern about affiliates, and you could make some serious cash.

      These days, you NEED your affiliates.
      I disagree on this. I have run WSO's that have made 5x the WSO fee back without using any affiliates. Sure thats only $200 per bump which probably would not qualify as 'serous cash' to most people. But when you consider it in terms of a 500% ROI its quite a good investment.
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

        I disagree on this. I have run WSO's that have made 5x the WSO fee back without using any affiliates. Sure thats only $200 per bump which probably would not qualify as 'serous cash' to most people. But when you consider it in terms of a 500% ROI its quite a good investment.

        I agree that you can see ROI on a WSO without affiliates in the 500% range.

        But, I wasn't talking about creating offers that generate $200 in sales. Instead, I was talking about offers that see sales in the five- and six-figures range. Most people need affiliates to see sales numbers in the +250 units sold range.

        The offer I spoke of in my other post, where 87% of sales were driven by affiliates, was one that has sold 993 units.

        In WarriorPlus, there have been 375 offers that have sold 1000+ units, and a few dozen that have done 10,000+ units sold. Few people can do numbers in this range without affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    But, is a WSO worth the investment? Will I likely make back my investment? It costs $37 for the membership, plus $40 to post the WSO. That's $77. Or $97 if I make use Warrior+.
    For you it won't be worth it. Someone who is worried about spending $100 to make potentially much more isn't cut out for this game.

    You're claiming to make money on Kindle yet aren't willing to invest in $100 to grow your business.

    Don't bother.
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  • Profile picture of the author king686
    Its worth posting in wso as long as you provide the true value it promises and not just in it for the money.
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  • Profile picture of the author curly sue
    Hi Thompson, you know the saying you need money to make money? Its so true, when you start out in any business you will loose money before you make it worth your while.
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  • it depends also on the offer and copy and if you can upsell etc. If you are good at all that it's worth it you can make money and there are probably people who would pay to find out how you made 5 k the question is can you sell to them?
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