Is this joker trying to steal my domain name?

by Andres
15 replies
Hi Warriors

I got this email from a Chinese registrar about my domain
name. The problem is that this whole thing looks and sounds
fishy.

Here is the 1st email I got:

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To whom it may concern: 2009-5-8

We are a domain name registration service company in Asia,

Last week we received a formal application submited by
Justin Lin who wanted to use the keyword
&#x22datingreviewworld&#x22 to register the Internet
Brand and with suffix such as .cn /.com.cn /.net.cn/.hk/
.asia/ domain names.

After our initial examination, we found that these domain
names to be applied for registration are same as your
domain name and trademark. We aren't sure whether you have
any relation with him. Because these domain names would
produce possible dispute, now we have hold down his
registration, but if we do not get your company's an reply
in the next 5 working days, we will approve his company's
application

In order to handle this issue better, Please contact us by
Fax ,Telephone or Email as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely
joy

Checking Department
Tel: 86 513 8532 2060
Fax: 86 513 8532 2065
Email:joy@ntwifinetwork.com
Website: WiFi Network|
Complete Asia Pacfic ccTLD Domain Names


Mail No.:1569320
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I responded back by sating I was the owner and operator of:
datingreviewworld.com
datingreviewworld.org

Then I received a reply back from 'Joy' with hthis email:

Here is the 2nd email I got:

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Dear Andres Munoz,

Thanks for your prompt reply.As far as we know, Mr.Justin Lin
want to apply for the following names:

datingreviewworld.cn
datingreviewworld.com.cn
datingreviewworld.asia
datingreviewworld.net.cn
datingreviewworld.org.cn
And Internet Brand "datingreviewworld ".

You would know domain name takes open registration, this is
international domain name registration principle. So Justin
Lin has right to register it.

If you think his registration will confuse your clients and
harm your profits, we can send an application document to you
and help you protect these domains within our approving period.
This is a better way to prevent domain name dispute. If you
think his application will not affect your company, you can give
up, we will finish his registration. Hope get your decision as
soon as possible so that we can handle the next step

Best regards

Your Sincerely Joy xu
----------------------------end email---------------------------------


My question is should I be worried? Why is this butthole trying
to jack my domain name?

I don't want him to have the brand "DatingReviewWorld" it's my
website and I came up with the name. Why should I allow him to
take it.

On top of that the chinese registar then emails me an application
where I need to pay $100 to "protect" my domain name brand.

WTF?

Please help me,
Andres
#domain #joker #steal
  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
    Hi Andres,

    Don't worry about it.

    They are just trying to sell you a service.

    They are saying that someone is allegedly going to register many of the other extensions of datingreviewworld, therefore would you like to pay them to try and stop this person from owning them.

    I would imagine that their 'method' is to overcharge you for registering the names yourself.

    Don't worry about it, it's just business and it's likely that if you do nothing, neither will they OR Mr. Lin.

    we found that these domain names to be applied for registration are same as your domain name and trademark
    Have you trademarked 'datingreviewworld'?
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    Agreed

    This is just a tacit to sell you domain names, as ExRat mentioned they probably are planning to overcharge you. Ignore them.

    Of course if you really want to protect the brand name you could register it with every TLD possible. It would probably cost a few thousand dollars a year, but you'd rest assured that the name was exclusively yours.

    Personally I can't see "datingreviewworld.com.cn" being much of a threat to your business, unless you have a multitude of customers in China.

    Bill
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    • Profile picture of the author AlfredKo
      Just ignore and let them register the .cn domains.
      There are hundreds of different domain name extension, how on earth are you going to protect all of it? Unless you own a big corporate name, there's no reason you should waste time on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Elliott
    They cant even write a proper email to start with..... you own the .com and .org so anyone who wants to register whatever will and it shouldnt worry you at all!

    It would be a bit different if I came along and created a new url such as BurgerKing.org....
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    • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
      I doubt if "Mr Lin" even exists. This just sounds like a scam to me. They have picked a random domain name - just happens to be yours this time - and done some basic whois research. They then contact the domain owner in the hope of frightening them into paying for other, similar domain names.

      If you make the mistake of paying up either a) you will be overcharged - as Ex Rat suggests or b) the domains will never be registered and your money will be gone

      It's just a scare tactic. Ignore them.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi RoseTrees,

        Ignore them
        This is actually important advice.

        I responded back by sating I was the owner and operator of:
        datingreviewworld.com
        datingreviewworld.org

        Then I received a reply back from 'Joy' with hthis email:
        By responding to communications of this type you not only confirm that the emails are being read and replied to, you also confirm that you are a certain type of respondent who probably isn't fully aware of these scams.

        There are 'organisations' out there that will pay for this kind of info and the reply could encourage more email scams to arrive.

        Don't talk openly to ALL strangers who approach you. Some ask the time because they want to appraise your watch ;-)
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        Roger Davis

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  • Profile picture of the author Roger Smith
    There is another little scam going around by snail mail. You will recieve a letter warning that your domains are about to expire, but they would be happy to renew them through their service for about 50 bucks per domain per year. Got a good laugh on that one. Sometimes wonder how many people fall for that one, hopefully none.
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    • Profile picture of the author edhan
      I have received many of such emails. Yes, they are trying to sell you domain names. Normally I will just ignore them unless you are interested in those domain names. Then you can try registering yourself instead of going through them paying a higher price.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        Wow, thanks. Hadn't heard of this type of scam but I suppose it makes sense.

        Easiest way is to just trademark it - but that is costliest way as well. Cheapest way is to buy them all up - but if you own the dot com and have developed it then I personally wouldn't worry about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author AcePlayer
    Like everyone else has already mentioned, this is a SCAM..
    Stop replying to their emails and you should be fine..
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  • Profile picture of the author MintSEO
    It sounds like a big scam to me, ignore it and ignore their emails too.

    If it was serious you'd get a letter through the post.
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  • Profile picture of the author twb
    I received an email offering to sell me have the .com version of a domain name I owned that ends with .info for $100 usd. I ignored the e-mail. A few days later I received the same e-mail again, from the same sender, offering my the domain for $79. I went to the GoDaddy site and searched the domain name and it was available. I went ahead and bought it through GoDaddy for $9.99.
    A few days later I received another e-mail from the same sender offering to sell me the .net version of a different domain I own. Again, I search GoDaddy and the domain was available. I didn't need , nor want, the .net name but it was available.

    To summarize, they were trying to sell me a domain they had not registered. If you receive a similar e-mail you can search via your domain registrar for the name it it will probably be available.

    Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Yes, don't respond to any emails like this. There is no "Mr. Justin Lin"

    This is just a service trying to get you to register .cn domains through them or "reserve" domains through them at an outrageous price.

    However by communicating with them they might go ahead and register the .cn domains in question and hold them ransom from you. Either way I'd ignore any further communication with them. Unless you have a big Chinese clientele I wouldn't worry.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andres
    Hello Guys,

    That's a weight off my mind and thank you to all.

    As you can imagin I was worried and confused but it sounded too fishy especially when they wanted $100 from me.

    I love this forum!!

    Andres
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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Luxton
      Wow,

      Somebody trying to steal Godaddy's upsell thunder!

      When you buy the .com don't forget to buy the other 200 or extensions.

      My personal favourite is .AQ (Antarctica). I have all my companies registered there at

      P.O. Box 90
      South Pole

      As Antarctica is not even a country I don't have to pay tax and if any customers want to cancel my forced continuity programmes they have to deliver a letter by hand to the South Pole Post Office (small print is a wonderful thing!).

      Martin


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      Ministry of Telecommunications, Science, Technology and Industry .VEcountry-codeVenezuela, Bolivarian Republic of
      Centro Nacional de Tecnologias de Informacion .VGcountry-codeVirgin Islands, British
      Pinebrook Developments Ltd .VIcountry-codeVirgin Islands, U.S.
      Virgin Islands Public Telcommunications System
      c/o COBEX Internet Services .VNcountry-codeViet Nam
      Ministry of Post and Telematics .VUcountry-codeVanuatu
      Telecom Vanuatu Limited .WFcountry-codeWallis and Futuna
      AFNIC (NIC France) - Immeuble International .WScountry-codeSamoa
      Government of Samoa
      Ministry of Foreign Affairs .测试
      test:zh-Hans
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .परीक्षा
      test:hi-Deva
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .испытание
      test:ru-Cyrl
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .테스트
      test:ko-Hang
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .טעסט
      test:yi-Hebr
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .測試
      test:zh-Hant
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .آزمایشی
      test:fa-Arab
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .பரிட்சை
      test:ta-Taml
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .δοκιμή
      test:el-Grek
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .إختبار
      test:ar-Arab
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .テスト
      test:ja-Kana
      testReserved for testing internationalised domain names
      Internet Assigned Numbers Authority .YEcountry-codeYemen
      TeleYemen .YTcountry-codeMayotte
      AFNIC (NIC France) - Immeuble International .YUcountry-codeYugoslavia (being phased out)
      Serbian National Register of Internet Domain Names (temporary caretaker) .ZAcountry-codeSouth Africa
      ZA Domain Name Authority .ZMcountry-codeZambia
      ZAMNET Communication Systems Ltd. .ZWcountry-codeZimbabwe
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