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HTML, Wordpress or Joomla - Please Help?

by Oscar D
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Good day,

I am in the process of starting a new website, but I have no idea what platform I should use.

Firstly here are my skills:
I do know how to use .html and I do have .html sites running. I do also know wordpress at a basic level. In terms of Joomla I have looked at it and I do need to learn it, but I find it tough to use.

The site will be a information site around a specific niche and I think it will be over 50 pages of content. My goal is to earn money from Adsense, but more importantly to earn money by apporaching advertisers and advertise their related businesses on the site.

Please help? :confused:
#html #joomla #wordpress
  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Wordpress

    There are all manner of plugins that you can use to control your advertising etc from business owners..

    Rotate ads on an hourly basis, daily.. etc etc

    Peace

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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    I concur - WordPress.

    A straight HTML site will be too hard to maintain, especially as you plan to update it regularly for your advertisers. And while Joomla is an excellent platform it has a steeper learning curve than WordPress, which you already have some familiarity with.

    As Jay noted there are a multitude of PlugIns that you can use to enhance the site. WordPress is also very easy to configure to be SEO-friendly, Joomla is more of an effort.

    Best of luck with your site...

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    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Originally Posted by mywebwork View Post

      As Jay noted there are a multitude of PlugIns that you can use to enhance the site. WordPress is also very easy to configure to be SEO-friendly, Joomla is more of an effort.
      I have several of both WP and Joomla sites, and I actually think that Joomla sites get crawled better and more accurately for content by search engines. I have noticed in particular that my adsense ads posted on Joomla sites are bang-on in terms of related content, even changing slightly to better reflect the article on any given page.

      In my WP sites I often find that my adsense ads quite often do not show the same keen sense of matching up with content and I have even noticed several days go by before it improves.

      @OPer - Both are fine, but if you are already considering Joomla, I would actually recommend that just as much as WP just to get your own taste of this excellent product. I really don't know if the learning curve is longer with Joomla than WP - I was rather slow at both but I do know that once you get set up - for bigger sites with intent to grow even bigger - I would choose Joomla.

      Also I like Joomla for looking more like a website and having an integrated blog. My sig file is such an example as well as this site http://www.PokerCalculatorReport.com which is quite a bit bigger in terms of content but easily updatable through the blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oscar D
    I also think Wordpress is a good option, but I do not want the site to look old and that is why I think removing the dates from the posts will be a good idea.

    Is there any way how to do it properly?
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
      Originally Posted by Oscar D View Post

      I also think Wordpress is a good option, but I do not want the site to look old and that is why I think removing the dates from the posts will be a good idea.

      Is there any way how to do it properly?
      Look in the templates (do a text search) for the_date( and the_time( and remove those function calls. It gets a little tricky depending on how the theme is laid out. You may be able to remove just the date/time function calls, or you may need to remove the whole line. Just experiment.

      Experiment on a COPY of the file!!! Save the original in case you need to revert back to it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joeez
      Originally Posted by Oscar D View Post

      I also think Wordpress is a good option, but I do not want the site to look old and that is why I think removing the dates from the posts will be a good idea.

      Is there any way how to do it properly?
      If you don't want your Wordpress blog to look dated, why not just use pages instead of posts? This is easy to do, and nobody will know when you created the pages.

      Pages get indexed as well as posts, and they are just as easy to edit.
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  • Profile picture of the author amits97
    I designed a website/blog in Wordpress myself and I am satisfied! Go with WP.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    And to answer the original question, I'd use WordPress, for no other reason than I'm familiar with it. I think (my opinion only) that Joomla is a little overkill for a simple 50-100 page content site. And, if you don't know it well, Joomla does have a little steeper learning curve than WP.
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  • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
    I suppose it really depends where you want to take your web site. I am a Joomla fan myself. I have one or two WP sites but find it too limited and because I know Joomla well I prefer it.

    The issue about the learning curve being steep is bull, whether you learn WP of Joomla, once you know it you know it and I find Joomla to be more organised on the backend and more versatile overall.

    An interesting comparison: Wordpress, Joomla or Drupal - Which CMS should you choose?

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  • Profile picture of the author InternetMarketingIQ
    I use both Wordpress and Joomla... Joomla site example "InternetMarketingIQ.com"... quotes to remove html link.

    What I like about Joomla is once it is set up it is VERY EASY to move your data. You can very easily insert adsense in any of the positions on your page by simple creating an custom html module and pasting in your code.

    What's better is once created your custom modules can be turned on or off and assigned a location with a simple toggle. Joomla is amazing this way. Say you want to put Adsense on only 6 pages. You create your custom module and you assign it to those pages and in the position on those pages that you want it to appear. You can do this with any module you create. And of course you can paste in ad code directly into articles as well.

    Wordpress does NOT allow you to easily assign custom blocks/modules this easily.

    The downside to Joomla is it is harder to install, upgrade, and learn.

    The trick to Joomla is to think about the way it works while learning.

    You create a section, then a category, then you create your menu's, and finally your data... then section and categories must be in place before your data... then you link it all together.

    With wordpress you just create your data and assign it to the category.

    A weakness of Joomla is the commenting. I use a 3rd party commenting tool, but it is nowhere near as nicely integrated as Wordpress. Another downside is you can not easily assign a single article to multiple categories (Which is very easy with Wordpress and I often do this with articles that fit multiple categories).

    I do very well with my Joomla sites in terms of SEO (Excluding the Above as I have done next to nothing SEO wise off page for the site). I use the built in apache SEO Friendly URL's... but there are SEO plug ins available.

    On to Wordpress...

    I love Wordpress. I use a CMS template that allows me to reorganize Category order and manage ads with built in tools. Very fast to set up a site, very simple to add articles. Wordpress has some awesome plug ins to extend the capabilities of your project. The most important thing is to pick a good template first.

    If you want to look at some nice Joomla Templates I really like Joomla Shack, and the site above is based on one of their Free Templates. I usually buy templates but that particular free one did everything I wanted. Barrie North the owner of Joomla Shack has probably the best book on Joomla as well, you can find it on Amazon. Just make sure you get the one for Joomla 1.5 and above.

    If I were you I'd install Wordpress and use it for this project. Then I'd also install Joomla on a test site and get familiar with it. The two of them create a really powerful 1-2 punch for affiliate marketing and contextual advertising projects.

    UBD has also recently released an Affiliate Theme for Wordpress that is spot on for making Ad pages for Adwords Campaigns.

    And I have used XSitePro in the past, and while easy... it just doesn't have the simple extensibility that Wordpress and Joomla have.
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