I must be missing something

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Hi everyone,
My name is Kat.
I'm new to posting in the forum and new to trying to making money online.
I am a single mom with a daughter I'm raising
and making a supplemental income is really important right now. I've read lots and I've tried many ideas that people
have suggested but nothing seems to be working...I guess I'm a little frustrated but not even close to wanting to
give up yet.
I've done the complete sniper 2 program to a "t" on several products ,
without making a single sale for 3 months. I didn't expect to make
a ton of money but I would have thought at least a few sales would have been possible. I know how to add key words and backlinks
to my site, I've done lots of bookmarking, and also paid for targetted traffic to no avail.
I'm still not really getting anywhere. I must be missing something. That something is what I'm
looking to you for.
Any direct advice anyone can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I would kill to have someone with experience to take me
under there wing and put me on the right track.

Please can anyone help. Thank you so much.
Kat
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  • Profile picture of the author zeroaffiliate
    Hey Kat,

    you might find some help with reading up more blogs and getting to know more people who are doing it successfully..
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Kat,

      Welcome to the forum. Your experience online thus far is not too different from most folks that are learning IM. There is typically (not always) a period of frustration that follows trying out something new and finding it doesn't quite work like the seller said.

      I hope you were able to do some niche research prior to jumping in. Many new to IM skip this step - but I think it's crucial. I think making money by finding a deep niche, rather than trying to sell in a broad niche, is sound advice for most new folks. Be as specific and focused as you can and don't try to be all things to everyone in the niche.

      Also realize that some niches are difficult for a newcomer to monetize. Be sure others are able to sell in the niche proving that there is demand and money flowing.

      I would just caution you, as well, to be careful about asking for a mentor to help you. I think having a mentor is a good thing usually; however, if you ask for one in the open market (like forum threads) you are bound to get people coming out of the woodwork offering their mentoring for a price and sometimes they have time to help you because they have nothing else to do and no other clients. Find a mentor - yes. Be very discriminating about whom you choose! Make sure that person has a great track record for helping others and selling online himself.

      The very best to you,

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    Welcome to the forum. If there is one piece of advice I would recommend -- it would be to build an email list!

    A simple way to do this is create a 1 page website (squeeze page) then offer a free gift on this site of high value. It can be short like a 10 page e report.

    In exchange for this gift, you will collect people's email address that visit your site through an opt in form.

    Once they are on your list -- provide them with massive value and try to really help them solve their own problems. Along the way, promote products they may find helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Get Paul's Handy Little Guide to the Warrior Forum

      Also You should join the WarRoom

      Spend time there you can learn a lot without spending any money.
      I think the methods in Google Sniper 2 are somewhat outdated and not very well thought of (at least by me). The author last posted here on the Warriorforum over a year ago in what might be seen as an attempt to reassure customers and then dropped off the edge of this corner of the world.
      Originally Posted by George Montagu Brown View Post

      Hey guys,

      Yeah I know I haven't been in touch in so long.

      There's not been any good products to let you guys know about, and I've been so involved with predator and a bunch of others products I haven't had time.

      You'll hear from me soon though, I'll make some more videos
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      ...Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just set there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brannigans
    What basic system does the sniper program teach? Exactly what have you done up to now?
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    • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
      Originally Posted by Brannigans View Post

      What basic system does the sniper program teach?
      Creating a site in anticipation of a product launch and ranking it to capture sales as I understand it.

      If you google it, you'll find a ton of sites hyping it.
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      ...Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just set there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Greetings Kat,

    It all comes down to:

    People want something, you provide it, you gain something. Right?

    So why keep yourself focused on sniper sites, rankings, google, etc? Why don't you sell something people want, something from your hometown, something not "clonable" by a guy in Taiwan or Lisbon? Then use IM skills to bring those profits up.

    Just food for thought - I really hate to see people losing time and money chasing a dream when most often they have a lucrative option right under their nose.
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    People make good money selling to the rich. But the rich got rich selling to the masses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Hey

    Originally Posted by steele67 View Post

    I've done the complete sniper 2 program to a "t" on several products , without making a single sale for 3 months. I didn't expect to make
    a ton of money but I would have thought at least a few sales would have been possible.
    Ah ... not necessarily. It's all based on SEO traffic, isn't it? :p

    Originally Posted by steele67 View Post

    I know how to add key words and backlinks
    to my site, I've done lots of bookmarking
    Mmmmmm ... many people earning good livings don't do any of those things at all. (Though some do, admittedly).

    Originally Posted by steele67 View Post

    I'm still not really getting anywhere. I must be missing something. That something is what I'm looking to you for.
    Yes. I think you're probably missing something. The problem is that nobody can know what you're missing without looking at everything you're doing in fine detail, which is always tough to do in a forum. We can guess, but we can guess wrongly, as well as rightly. My guess is that you're following a method that's outdated and not very good and all based on SEO traffic anyway. And I know enough about affiliate sales to know that that combination's not likely to be too successful for most of its followers.

    Have you been using this Sniper method to try ClickBank sales (that's my guess?), Amazon sales, or what? Are you a ClickBank affiliate? An Amazon affiliate, or what?

    If you're a ClickBank affiliate, I can point you to some threads that cover all the basics, though I don't pretend they're a "complete outline for how to make money". And if you're an Amazon affiliate I can probably point you to other people who can do the same.

    Welcome to the WF anyway, Kat. There's a ton of information here. (Unfortunately there's some misinformation as well, but that's true everywhere!).

    For what it's worth (if anything), it's always easier to benefit from the forum by asking very specific questions and supplying as much background information as possible with them. I know that's much more easily said than done!
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    • Profile picture of the author keyon
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


      My guess is that you're following a method that's outdated and not very good and all based on SEO traffic anyway.
      This is a really good point to make. It's sad to see so many IM programs still out there that were probably created back in 2007. Unfortunately the newcomers just aren't aware that those old rabbit tricks no longer work.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    Hi Kat, there are many helpful Warriors here who share their methods of making money online and you simply just want to decide on one model to focus on. Just stick to one proven system and take action on it
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffsolochek
    Originally Posted by steele67 View Post

    Hi everyone,
    My name is Kat.
    I'm new to posting in the forum and new to trying to making money online.
    I am a single mom with a daughter I'm raising
    and making a supplemental income is really important right now. I've read lots and I've tried many ideas that people
    have suggested but nothing seems to be working...I guess I'm a little frustrated but not even close to wanting to
    give up yet.
    I've done the complete sniper 2 program to a "t" on several products ,
    without making a single sale for 3 months. I didn't expect to make
    a ton of money but I would have thought at least a few sales would have been possible. I know how to add key words and backlinks
    to my site, I've done lots of bookmarking, and also paid for targetted traffic to no avail.
    I'm still not really getting anywhere. I must be missing something. That something is what I'm
    looking to you for.
    Any direct advice anyone can help me with would be greatly appreciated. I would kill to have someone with experience to take me
    under there wing and put me on the right track.

    Please can anyone help. Thank you so much.
    Kat

    A great site where you can start, a great place to learn everything is the site by Stone evans...The Plug In Profit Site....Many marketers have used this site for this, cost is very low. Look up in Google Ewen Chia, He used Stones site for this.
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    I also build blogs for companies and individuals

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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Kat do me a favor and put that credit card up for the most part.
    Concentrate on one thing only, sounds like you did that but didn't have luck.

    I will give a suggestion only and even though I was making money on the Internet probably before you were born, it took me years to figure out what I am about to tell you.

    You can take the advice for what you want but if you research what I am telling you then you can make an intelligent decision.

    Build a list. There is more too it then just build a list but concentrate your effort there, these can be repeat customers for life.

    I could of went in the whole shabang and told you to get a free product put up a page do your signature give the product away and do an oto. But I will leave something out here and not fair to you.

    If you need good products to learn how to build a list pm me here. I will give you the straight, not sell you any of my own and not give you affilate links. Just products if followed will work for you.

    Good luck to you and hope you do well. BTW, most women do better than men in Internet Marketing if they stick to it. We just can't get many in here is all.
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  • Profile picture of the author ishuvonet
    Have you ever thought of doing a job like as a virtual assistant besides running a business.If you could do so,it would reduce your frustration level because making profit from a business is an uncertain thing. Traffic comes later,before that you must make sure you have a good landing page and you have chosen a good product that converts considerably well.After ensuring this,you can go for SEO. From the SEO perspective, you have to work hard these days in order to achieve a good ranking in search engines because lots of traditional stuffs doesn't work any more here.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Shes not asking what niche though that I can tell, she is asking how to make money.
    I think someone should follow there niche but when you want money you want a good niche no a great niche and one that you can reap rewards from quick.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Rosmer
    Hi Kat,

    If you message me I'll go through what you're doing and offer some specific suggestions. In the mean time I think the basic gap analysis is fairly straight forward:

    1. Are you getting traffic to your site? Lots of people get into SEO, bookmarking, back links, etc. and forget that these are just tools to try to drive traffic so the most important question is "are you getting traffic and if so how much?" without a meaningful quantity it's hard to measure the next pieces, getting traffic is the starting point

    2. If you are getting traffic what are people supposed to do when they get to your site? Most typically are you capturing some kind of opt-in or are you trying to make a sale directly? The later is obviously much harder because it's a much bigger commitment than the former. Bottom line you need to assess what they are doing when they get to your site? For someone getting started out I'd typically say going for the opt-in as your first goal is probably best since at least then you can market to them through repeated email campaigns afterwards.

    If you've got lots of people coming to your site and they aren't opting in the question becomes what's the gap? Typically, you'll find it's one or a combination of 4 things:

    A) Is the traffic targeted? It's not good enough to get people to come to the site it needs to be traffic congruent with your offer

    B) Is your offer compelling? If you just have an opt-in form on a website you won't likely get many opt-ins, but if you give something compelling to the audience away they are much more likely to go for it.

    C) Does the page design drive them to your target action? You want to make it easy to opt-in, in fact you want to make it hard not to opt-in...at least that's the way to maximize opt-ins, poor page design could be responsible for a poor opt-in rate

    D) Are there any red flags? There are things (for example if you were trying to collect highly personal information, especially if it wasn't SSL secure) that will detract from people opting in so if you've got all the rest nailed I'd be looking to this.

    3. Assuming you're getting the opt-in but people aren't buying the question again becomes why not? The answers will come in the form of the previous four questions but also add two more. Are there enough people (you need a pretty high volume of traffic to accurately measure conversion rates and expect reasonable conversion)? How much are you communicating with them?


    That is pretty much a gap analysis process for you to walk through. As mentioned you can private message me, send me a link to your site, and I can help you go through it.
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