How many of you actually..

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know how to start a website from scratch? I mean, understanding the fundamentals of a website, and the languages needed to put one together. i.e. HTML/CSS/Javascript/PHP etc. If you do, how long did it take you until it became somewhat natural? I can code CSS and HTML no problem, but PHP is much more difficult. I started around 3 weeks ago, and am still not comfortable making something myself other than the basics (includes, mainly). If someone wrote something in PHP, I would probably have a vague understanding of what's happening, but I most definitely couldn't at the current time do it myself.

How long should it take before I should be able to make a script without the need of tutorials and assistance?
  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Cook
    Just jump in with wordpress. Choose a website you like, emulate it. Copy the theme, layout, plugins, widgets.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
      Originally Posted by Matt Cook View Post

      Just jump in with wordpress. Choose a website you like, emulate it. Copy the theme, layout, plugins, widgets.
      I agree.

      I only know how to set up websites from scratch with Wordpress. It only takes like 10 minutes.
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    • Profile picture of the author lattlay123
      Originally Posted by Matt Cook View Post

      Just jump in with wordpress. Choose a website you like, emulate it. Copy the theme, layout, plugins, widgets.
      I second this. Play around in the appearance editor and you will get the hang of it eventually. Once you get proficient with PHP, the REAL fun with Wordpress begins !
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  • Profile picture of the author Beverley Boorer
    You can easily put up a website without knowing a thing about html or anything. Nearly all websites allow you to simply type real text onto the page and it converts automatically.
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  • Profile picture of the author reviewers
    I can. And as a warning to you, WordPress is a severely bloated piece of software. A typical WP site would not be able to handle 1 million+ visitors a month without using several servers because at that point you can expect shared hosting and VPS accounts go down. So if you plan to get big quickly be sure you have some knowledge about setting up some servers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ksummers
    Google becomes your best friend when you are coding. Even when I worked as a software developer I had to look up books every now and then or google something.Of course as you get more experience you need less help but I've been coding for 5 years and still look up the odd tutorial.
    Having said that, I'm a Wordpress fan because when I want to build a site, I want to do it NOW and don't have time to reinvent the wheel. When you know html,css,php and a maybe little bit of javascript you can highly customize any template to fit your needs.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Fame
    If you can't do it, ask for help. Hire outsourcers, or learn it yourself. I tend to choose outsourcers instead, because I value life (time) more than money itself.

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    • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
      I do. Wordpress is fine for some uses, but sometimes you want something special (or simple) and Wordpress is the wrong tool for the job.

      HTML is very easy to pick up and, as has already been said, Google is your friend. There are only a very few tags that you'll need to learn.

      CSS is equally easy to understand once you get your head around the basic principle of it - that HTML is about the structure of the page, whereas CSS is about how it looks. There are also websites explaining everything you could ever need.

      PHP is brilliant, but not strictly necessary. It is good for adding interactiveness to your pages - and necessary if you want to pass information from one page to another, or to a database, but for most simple web pages it won't be needed. The good thing about PHP is that you don't need to learn the whole language in advance - just the bits of it that you need at the time. That way your knowledge will grow gently.

      JavaScript (or jQuery) can also be used to create some excellent special effects on your site but you probably don't need to set out to 'learn' it in advance. There are thousands of code examples online (need a countdown timer - Google javascript countdown time and you'll find lots that are free to use).

      The more you build web pages, the more you'll pick up as you go along. And have a lot of fun along the way.

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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Crosbie
    It depends how long you have to spend, I learnt a good amount of PHP (I mean novice to being able to code WordPress themes and some basic plugins) in about 1 month.

    It's well worth learning!
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinChapman
    I know some HTML and I could probably create a website from scratch but it would take such a long time I wouldn't bother, I'm just going to stick to Wordpress!
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    I can program in ASP.Net, but would never dream of coding up a website for IM purposes. Takes way too long and there are far better ways of spending time.
    I use wordpress for most things or a website builder such as Microsoft Expression Web.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrgoe
    When all these website builder options are available, like wordpress, joomla and so forth.. I don`t know why would someone want to start from scratch and make an website in html.
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