About Affiliate Marketing

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happen to come across this forum while browsing on the web for forums on affiliate marketing. to start off, i started trying affiliate marketing almost a year ago but I have not even make my first penny from it. I had read various articles or ebook (from Rosalind Gardner, Danny Dover, Anthony Kirlew, Brad Callen, etc) and try out marketing different niche products via skimlinks, ebay, amazon, cj..etc. But till date, i have not even earn anything.

I understand that for a product to sell, the very first step is to let people know your website or blog. And subsequently, to make sure the CTR to purchase is consistent. I had so far bee trying to push my blog (on the product I am marketing) to the first page of google search. Had read countless SEO articles and books but still can't get it there (it is hovering around page 10 to 13 of google search). I had done all on page and off page optimization (from the knowledge i have).

Am getting sort of disheartened here after trying it for almost a year. Can anyone please let me know, which guru or which book you had read? Or how did you get started and come to your current state of expertise? Please please please (am getting really desperate here) help me by pointing in the direction i should head to (as in the books or any articles or tools i should read up on). Will really really appreciate it man.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I believe you've bought the right products but just make sure that you implement that step by step. If you didn't implement it, you will be trapped into buying new stuff and keep on buying but never applying means no income.
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    • Profile picture of the author ignmmulia
      Originally Posted by visimedia View Post

      I believe you've bought the right products but just make sure that you implement that step by step. If you didn't implement it, you will be trapped into buying new stuff and keep on buying but never applying means no income.
      agree with this post
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  • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
    i had implemented the steps i read in the books. just that the ranking on the serp is not getting to the top. hence alot of time, my blog doesn't get the exposure. any tips or tricks to share on enhancing your website/blog to be at the first page of google?
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    • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
      Originally Posted by affmarketing26 View Post

      i had implemented the steps i read in the books. just that the ranking on the serp is not getting to the top. hence alot of time, my blog doesn't get the exposure. any tips or tricks to share on enhancing your website/blog to be at the first page of google?
      I think thats were most of us are lost. You can easily learn seo and its getting easier with wp plugins now but you can always outsource seo
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  • Originally Posted by affmarketing26 View Post

    i started trying affiliate marketing almost a year ago but I have not even make my first penny from it. I had read various articles or ebook (from Rosalind Gardner, Danny Dover, Anthony Kirlew, Brad Callen, etc) and try out marketing different niche products via skimlinks, ebay, amazon, cj..etc. But till date, i have not even earn anything.
    One years worth of visitors "should" have translated into at least one sale, assuming you had a few thousand visitors drop by. Thus either you must have only received a handful of untargeted visitors, or your website / landing page simply is not converting due to poor design and or content / offers etc. The latter probably plays a big part in this. Also, even though trying to get your page to rank on the first page of Google is not impossible, it is probably highly unlikely in these days. Therefore it's best to start working on another traffic strategy, right after you work on your actual site.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by stoltingmediagroup View Post

      One years worth of visitors "should" have translated into at least one sale, assuming you had a few thousand visitors drop by. Thus either you must have only received a handful of untargeted visitors, or your website / landing page simply is not converting due to poor design and or content / offers etc. The latter probably plays a big part in this. Also, even though trying to get your page to rank on the first page of Google is not impossible, it is probably highly unlikely in these days. Therefore it's best to start working on another traffic strategy, right after you work on your actual site.
      thank you so much for the advice man..will look into this.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by stoltingmediagroup View Post

      One years worth of visitors "should" have translated into at least one sale, assuming you had a few thousand visitors drop by. Thus either you must have only received a handful of untargeted visitors, or your website / landing page simply is not converting due to poor design and or content / offers etc. The latter probably plays a big part in this. Also, even though trying to get your page to rank on the first page of Google is not impossible, it is probably highly unlikely in these days. Therefore it's best to start working on another traffic strategy, right after you work on your actual site.
      this particular blog <a href="http://helpbabycrawl.blogspot.com">help baby crawl</a> is still pretty new (around a month). but i had previously work on other blogs (products) but the results are much worse.
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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    There are far more easier and fun ways to get traffic then using Google. Some are...

    - Forums
    - Blog commenting
    - Guest posting
    - Writing articles
    - SEO
    - Creating newsletters
    - Social Bookmarking
    - Blogging
    - Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest)

    The trick is to pick 2 methods you believe you would enjoy doing then stick to only those methods. Once you see results move to to 2 new methods.

    After you have tried every method discard the ones that are not producing results - and focus on the ones that are.

    I myself find blogging extremely time consuming and prefer doing 1 page websites (squeeze pages) -- and capturing my visors into my email list. From there I will give them valuable information -- and promote products to them.

    If you the type who loves to blog -- I would look at Kim Roach or Blogging with John Chow.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by MKCookins View Post

      There are far more easier and fun ways to get traffic then using Google. Some are...

      - Forums
      - Blog commenting
      - Guest posting
      - Writing articles
      - SEO
      - Creating newsletters
      - Social Bookmarking
      - Blogging
      - Social Media (Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest)

      The trick is to pick 2 methods you believe you would enjoy doing then stick to only those methods. Once you see results move to to 2 new methods.

      After you have tried every method discard the ones that are not producing results - and focus on the ones that are.

      I myself find blogging extremely time consuming and prefer doing 1 page websites (squeeze pages) -- and capturing my visors into my email list. From there I will give them valuable information -- and promote products to them.

      If you the type who loves to blog -- I would look at Kim Roach or Blogging with John Chow.
      thanks for the methods recommended appreciate it very much
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  • Profile picture of the author SlfMastery
    @"affmarketing26"
    If you could post the link to your website we could analyze why sales are not happening.

    Until then, here are some tips to help you get a sale:

    1. Keyword = select what they call "end of the buying cycle" keywords. These are keywords people would type in after ALREADY hearing about and researching the product. It could also come in the form of a long tail keyword.

    Ex:
    sony 55 inch HD29971-55
    best deal on sony 50 HD22212-50
    natural GERD relief with 10 million active cultures

    These keywords are ultra targeted and in most cases easier to rank. You could also look for new products since competition is likely lower.

    These keywords are usually lower in traffic BUT they will result in more sales with less "selling" effort on your part. If you target a general keyword the searcher is not as ready to buy yet and you will have to guide them more through the buying cycle, usually with follow up emails.

    2. Type of Products = go after something that will solve a nagging problem, i.e. a health ailment, a divorce, a kid that is causing family problems, etc. These are top of mind for the searcher and thus, they'd want to solve it now

    3. Landing Page = HELP them somehow. It could be your story on how you checked a few big name sites and why you think one site offers the best deal, i.e. Free Shipping with the least hassle return policy.

    Or, you can educate them on why the number of active cultures on a probiotic box is not as important b/c all that matters is how many actually reach the gut.

    Help and educate them instead of using salesy language.

    4. Call to Action = use around 3 call to action links / images. Maybe a clickable image at the top of your page, a link in the middle or your page, i.e. go here for more info on [product], and a link at the end of your page, i.e. get rid of heartburn with [product]

    Hope that addresses why you may not be getting sales.

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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by SlfMastery View Post

      @"affmarketing26"
      If you could post the link to your website we could analyze why sales are not happening.

      Until then, here are some tips to help you get a sale:

      1. Keyword = select what they call "end of the buying cycle" keywords. These are keywords people would type in after ALREADY hearing about and researching the product. It could also come in the form of a long tail keyword.

      Ex:
      sony 55 inch HD29971-55
      best deal on sony 50 HD22212-50
      natural GERD relief with 10 million active cultures

      These keywords are ultra targeted and in most cases easier to rank. You could also look for new products since competition is likely lower.

      These keywords are usually lower in traffic BUT they will result in more sales with less "selling" effort on your part. If you target a general keyword the searcher is not as ready to buy yet and you will have to guide them more through the buying cycle, usually with follow up emails.

      2. Type of Products = go after something that will solve a nagging problem, i.e. a health ailment, a divorce, a kid that is causing family problems, etc. These are top of mind for the searcher and thus, they'd want to solve it now

      3. Landing Page = HELP them somehow. It could be your story on how you checked a few big name sites and why you think one site offers the best deal, i.e. Free Shipping with the least hassle return policy.

      Or, you can educate them on why the number of active cultures on a probiotic box is not as important b/c all that matters is how many actually reach the gut.

      Help and educate them instead of using salesy language.

      4. Call to Action = use around 3 call to action links / images. Maybe a clickable image at the top of your page, a link in the middle or your page, i.e. go here for more info on [product], and a link at the end of your page, i.e. get rid of heartburn with [product]

      Hope that addresses why you may not be getting sales.

      Charlie
      thanks Charlie for the valuable information. really really appreciate it. my link is

      helpbabycrawl.blogspot.com
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      • Profile picture of the author SlfMastery
        Originally Posted by affmarketing26 View Post

        thanks Charlie for the valuable information. really really appreciate it. my link is

        helpbabycrawl.blogspot.com
        Hello Again

        Looking over your website, I can offer my opinion:

        1. the theme is not very "baby friendly." The colors, the pictures, etc. First impressions sets the tone/ mood of the visitor. Check out your competitors to get ideas, i.e. How can I encourage my baby to crawl? | BabyCenter

        2. This seems like an "information seeking" type of keyword rather than an end of the buying cycle type of keyword (see my previous post).

        Contrary to what Alexa said about search engine traffic producing the worst conversions, if you target the right (end of buying cycle) keyword you will get conversions.

        I do agree what she said about not depending on organic traffic. Your sales can drop overnight with one algorithm change. That is not stable.

        Lots to take in and learn, huh?

        I can suggest to you getting in Wealthy Affiliate to view a bunch of FREE tutorials using their Starter Membership and learn at your own pace. I AM a member there but not suggesting it just so I can get a referral. I can honestly say you have NOTHING to lose and so much to gain with their Free membership. Take advantage of it.

        And, just so you know I'm not trying to get a referral, just go directly to their website weatlhyaffiliate.com and sign up.

        Wish you much success in getting that first sale!

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        • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
          Originally Posted by SlfMastery View Post

          Hello Again

          Looking over your website, I can offer my opinion:

          1. the theme is not very "baby friendly." The colors, the pictures, etc. First impressions sets the tone/ mood of the visitor. Check out your competitors to get ideas, i.e. How can I encourage my baby to crawl? | BabyCenter

          2. This seems like an "information seeking" type of keyword rather than an end of the buying cycle type of keyword (see my previous post).

          Contrary to what Alexa said about search engine traffic producing the worst conversions, if you target the right (end of buying cycle) keyword you will get conversions.

          I do agree what she said about not depending on organic traffic. Your sales can drop overnight with one algorithm change. That is not stable.

          Lots to take in and learn, huh?

          I can suggest to you getting in Wealthy Affiliate to view a bunch of FREE tutorials using their Starter Membership and learn at your own pace. I AM a member there but not suggesting it just so I can get a referral. I can honestly say you have NOTHING to lose and so much to gain with their Free membership. Take advantage of it.

          And, just so you know I'm not trying to get a referral, just go directly to their website weatlhyaffiliate.com and sign up.

          Wish you much success in getting that first sale!

          Charlie
          thanks for the suggestions. and i will definitely take a look at Wealthy Affiliate. Again thanks much!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Emanuels
    Sorry, but it doesn't sound that you really did invest your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by affmarketing26 View Post

    I had so far bee trying to push my blog (on the product I am marketing) to the first page of google search.
    SEO is certainly something I'd urge you, as a fellow affiliate marketer, to stay away from, as much as you reasonably can. I advise you not to put your time, effort and energy into trying to attract "organic SERP's" traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious and makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried in 8 entirely different niches over the whole of the last 4 years - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (just because of all the high rankings I've got, incidentally, from article syndication to relevant sites) but I'd certainly hate to have to make a living from that traffic! Google rankings, in short, are not really much of a "traffic-generating plan" at all: that traffic's very poor quality and often temporary, too. Just reading this forum regularly will convince anyone of that.
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    • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      SEO is certainly something I'd urge you, as a fellow affiliate marketer, to stay away from, as much as you reasonably can. I advise you not to put your time, effort and energy into trying to attract "organic SERP's" traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious and makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried in 8 entirely different niches over the whole of the last 4 years - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (just because of all the high rankings I've got, incidentally, from article syndication to relevant sites) but I'd certainly hate to have to make a living from that traffic! Google rankings, in short, are not really much of a "traffic-generating plan" at all: that traffic's very poor quality and often temporary, too. Just reading this forum regularly will convince anyone of that.

      What she said seo is very unstable it's more of a bonus to everything else you do in terms of driving traffic these days.

      If you get a lot of seo traffic it is a bonus but do not ever count on it as a business model you will sink faster than the Titanic
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      • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
        Originally Posted by entrepreneurjay View Post

        What she said seo is very unstable it's more of a bonus to everything else you do in terms of driving traffic these days.

        If you get a lot of seo traffic it is a bonus but do not ever count on it as a business model you will sink faster than the Titanic
        yah man..and from what i read on this forum, seems like having a list (as in email list) of potential buyers is the way to go for affiliate marketing?
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      SEO is certainly something I'd urge you, as a fellow affiliate marketer, to stay away from, as much as you reasonably can. I advise you not to put your time, effort and energy into trying to attract "organic SERP's" traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious and makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried in 8 entirely different niches over the whole of the last 4 years - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (just because of all the high rankings I've got, incidentally, from article syndication to relevant sites) but I'd certainly hate to have to make a living from that traffic! Google rankings, in short, are not really much of a "traffic-generating plan" at all: that traffic's very poor quality and often temporary, too. Just reading this forum regularly will convince anyone of that.
      thanks alot, and noted on this point..seems like i am chasing the wrong thing by going after google ranking man
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  • Profile picture of the author galitsyn
    Pay attention to the date of edition of those SEO ebooks. Very often they are way out of date and all techniques are not working any more. Of course there are some basics which have to be memorized all the times. I absolutely agree with SlfMastery and his advice.

    I also agree with Alexa Smith. Don't optimize for search engines, optimize for people. Imagine like if you were trying to find something on the net.

    Also try to become an expert in your niche or find someone who is already an expert. In most cases you need not a search engine traffic but traffic which comes from someone authoritative. This is especial important for the beginners before they have their own list of prospects or leads. Of course you may lose some of you profit paying out commissions but you will save your time and efforts.
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  • You say you are hovering around page 10 or 13 for your keywords.

    Which keywords?

    You should be marketing to a giant and ever growing set of keywords/phrases.

    You need to track down low comp keywords that may have fewer searches per month. Tons and tons of them.

    You need to think around your main keywords if there is a great deal of competition there. Don't go straight down the middle, work around your main subject.

    Once you have brought them in then you interlink on your site go get them to those other pages.

    Hope that all makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by FailFailFailSucceed View Post

      You say you are hovering around page 10 or 13 for your keywords.

      Which keywords?

      You should be marketing to a giant and ever growing set of keywords/phrases.

      You need to track down low comp keywords that may have fewer searches per month. Tons and tons of them.

      You need to think around your main keywords if there is a great deal of competition there. Don't go straight down the middle, work around your main subject.

      Once you have brought them in then you interlink on your site go get them to those other pages.

      Hope that all makes sense.
      i am working on the keyword "help baby crawl". done some research on google keyword tool on the competition and on google insights on the trend of these keywords
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  • Profile picture of the author maxjpip
    I understand that feeling, my friend.

    If you think this is the right system to work on, keep doing it until make it work.

    If you can't rank your site, try different traffic methods.

    I tried SEO before, but I gave up because it took too much time to implement.

    "Never let a stumble on the road be the end of the journey"

    You are almost there, you have a blog, website.

    Everything is setup, you are almost there. Don't stop it!

    I kept failing for 3 years but I can still make money online at the end. You can do it too.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by maxjpip View Post

      I understand that feeling, my friend.

      If you think this is the right system to work on, keep doing it until make it work.

      If you can't rank your site, try different traffic methods.

      I tried SEO before, but I gave up because it took too much time to implement.

      "Never let a stumble on the road be the end of the journey"

      You are almost there, you have a blog, website.

      Everything is setup, you are almost there. Don't stop it!

      I kept failing for 3 years but I can still make money online at the end. You can do it too.
      thank you thank you so much for the encouragement
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  • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
    One of the most important thing you need to learn to make affiliate sales is how your going to get your offer in front of a hyper targeted audience. Your visitors need to be in the buying mood and for something very specific, so figure out how you can find these people.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

      One of the most important thing you need to learn to make affiliate sales is how your going to get your offer in front of a hyper targeted audience. Your visitors need to be in the buying mood and for something very specific, so figure out how you can find these people.
      in this case, does ppc works? thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ripster
    There are better ways to affiliate market then what you're trying to do. You should start out on YouTube reviewing products, creating your own review website, and building a mailing list with squeeze pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author affmarketing26
      Originally Posted by Ripster View Post

      There are better ways to affiliate market then what you're trying to do. You should start out on YouTube reviewing products, creating your own review website, and building a mailing list with squeeze pages.
      thanks for the advice. if i am selling some other people's product as an affiliate marketeer (i.e. products from cj.com), how does the mailing list work?
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    You can find all the information you need on here for free. There's really only a few components to a successful affiliate business:

    -traffic
    -squeeze pages to build your list
    -immediate offer
    -follow up series designed to build a relationship and promote other offers
    -be consistent with your email marketing & promotion to value ratio
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