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Old 05-21-2009, 07:05 PM   #51
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Which Spinners are the best out there?
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What's a "human controlled" spinner? How does it work? How is it different than a regular spinner?
Just as the name says using SpinLeverage Technology a "human" writer controls every single bit of text to create and spin the content.

Here is a simple explaination:

The composer is used for you to create a master article for the purpose of spinning the article to output many different versions of your article. The composer uses Spinpoint Keys & Text for your to enter into your article to create the different versions.

Spinpoint Keys & Text will remain once you create them unless you delete them so you will not need to add Spinpoint Keys & Text everytime you want to spin a article.

If you have a list of Spinpoint Keys & Text in a text file that are tab delimited then you can also upload this text file to add your key tags & spinpoints faster.

Creating a Spinpoint - Click on the blue link "Add Spinpoint" and a form will appear. The first field is to add your Spinpoint Key and the second field is to add your Spinpoint Text.

For Example: name a new Spinpoint Key "Hello" then follow up the Spinpoint Text with "Hello, how are you doing today"

You will want to create several Spinpoints under the Spinpoint Key "Hello" so let's add another one such as "Hi there john, how are you this fine morning"

Now you have 2 alternatives to use for the Spinpoint Key "Hello" so you will go to your article and where you want this text to show put your cursor and then click on the Spinpoint Key "Hello". Now in your article you will see {Hello} so when you spin your article, it will use both spinpoints you added and at random replace that text.

Once you have created all your Spinpoint Keys & Text and entered those into your article then you can save this Master Article by clicking on the submit button. Make sure you fill out the other fields on the form.

There is no use synonyms or insert curly braces that rely on a thesaurus. It is controlled 100% by the writer, so if there is a mistake then the only way it happened was the writer made a mistake.

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Thanks, but wow... that seems very complicated -- which makes me wonder if you might as well just write or re-write the article yourself, without the spinner. Know what I mean?
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Thanks, but wow... that seems very complicated -- which makes me wonder if you might as well just write or re-write the article yourself, without the spinner. Know what I mean?
Not complicated at all even Steven W. tested it and did so with no problem ... As I said I can produce 50 articles easily within 2 hours and all of them be above 60% uniqueness.. There is no writer that can write 50 articles in 2 hours.

Everything is controlled by the writer and there is no need to reply on some pre-set database that could cause issues. How about trying to edit a 800 word article with a bunch of {editme|editme|editme} inside the article. You see it would be a very hard job.

On the other hand Human Controlled Spinner if you make a mistake just edit the spinpoint key.. easy..

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WHy don;t you coin another name for it?
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I often use the phrase 'Content Creation System', as this
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I did .. SpinLeverage Technology .....

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Just about everyone on here who has their own spinning / article creation product will claim there's is the best. Of course they're all biased opinions. Until you try any out for yourself, you won't know which is best for you. I'll hold my hand up and say that mine isn't the best choice for everyone, but then on the otherhand, there are many customers who love it and give me great feedback. My point is, they are all different and work in various ways. Not all of these concepts of working will suite you.

As for spinning and article creation in general, as mentioned, if done properly using a human controlled spinner, can work wonders. And yes, you should easily be able to reach 65%+ each time if you spend the time on it.

People do seem to miss the point with using system like this. They usually respond with, 'The time it would take me to set up a project I could have written 10 - 20 articles myself. Maybe! But what about 50 articles? or 150 articles? I think not. A well built article project can allow you to create huge amounts of unique and yet perfectly readable articles on the fly, whenver you need them.

Because of this, the time spent developing the project is a drop in the ocean compared to the time you'll save creating the articles.

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Could it be that Glenn & James are imagining something different than others when it comes to "spinning"?

Synonym and phrase replacement based spinning frequently spouts out garbage and I think that's what many people think of when they think spinning.

However, there are spinners that will simply take a few human-written versions of an article (written with the same number of paragraphs, each with the exact same content...just worded differently) and then the spinner interchanges paragraphs. As long as the writing is good in the originals, the end result is highly-readable content.

So, I don't know...are you guys arguing about completely different things?

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controlled, to coin James's phrase. You decide exactly what YOU want as
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based on that input. That's why I often call ArtiFact a 'Content Creation
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Because we've independently developed our systems, we offer other
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than that about our systems, in case I'm accused of pimping.

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interesting thread but who has the time to read all that bloody text, cliff notes please
if spun articles are legible then you have a good result for low cost, if you have the time to do it by hand then do it, different people do different things, thats the beauty of ezine (even though someone said they accept spun stuff they are always picky with me) and other sites, they pre filter the content so it makes sense.
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I've only used one spinner. In it, I chose the words myself, there is no thesauraus.

For example, I would write: I typed this on my {PC|latop|computer}.

Since I wrote those choices within the brackets myself, I would consider that "human spinning," but there seems to be negative vibes about that type of spinning with keywords and brackets in this thread.

I'm confused...how is that different from the other method described of rewriting with spinpoints? Maybe I'm missing a faster way to do this.
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Hey djenys

If you're spinning articles just to get backlinks, then it just might be a great thing to do. Jetspinner works well for this but it takes me approximately 20 minutes to edit the junk it spits out. I could do 2 400 word articles in that time frame.

But if you are writing it for your readers, then it's best you write one yourself. Unlike the everyday trend where people recommend quantity against quality, a well-written and properly distributed article can drive more targeted visitors to your landing page than 20 crappily spinned articles

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hi there,

maybe this is the right thread :-)

I'm searching for article writers who are producing articles which are ready formatted for the power article rewriter. Resulting in uniqueness of about 30 % from the original article.

Maybe you offer such a service or know one who does?

Thank you for your answers :-)

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People do seem to miss the point with using system like this. They usually respond with, 'The time it would take me to set up a project I could have written 10 - 20 articles myself.
That would be me.

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But what about 50 articles? or 150 articles? I think not.
I see your point, but why would we need 50 to 150 articles of the same topic?
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I'm not going to say any more than that about our systems, in case I'm accused of pimping.
Well, if you guys don't pimp, how are we to know which system to purchase? We can't buy them all ya know!

Any of you guys offer a free trial? Not a cheap trial, but a free trial.
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If you use the right software, then surely it is a killer tactic

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50 hubpages or squidoo lenses. 50-100 article directories. There is a need for variations of the same content if it is 60-70% unique. How many article creation services use good spinners to create there content? I know there has to be some of that being done.


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Hi

You said that you have used article spinning successfully in the past. Did you stop? If so, why? If it was successful, why would you want to change to another method, even one that may be successful for someone else?

I guess what I am trying to say is, if you find something that works, stick with it until it stops working. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. New all I have to do is listen to my own advice
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A great way to "spin" articles, or atleast save time, is to translate articles in other languages to Englsih or the other way around.
Just use Translate.google.com and go througe it in a word document.
Passes copyscpae and works all the time.
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Just use Translate.google.com and go througe it in a word document.
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Clever idea, but...

Wouldn't that be considered plagiarism? Totally different than using a spinner and, IMO, unethical.

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those will not at all be helpful to make you money . those articles are only good for search engines not for buyers . quality will be worst.

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What's a "human controlled" spinner? How does it work? How is it different than a regular spinner?
In answer to the question of which spinners are the best out there, I do know there are others that work similarly to these, but these are the two I know of which fit the "human controlled spinner", and although I have not used them, I would say this TYPE of spinner would be your best choice.

Since I am not in any way affiliated with these, this would not be construed as self-promotion. ArtiFact (Article Factory) and Power Article Rewriter

As I said, I have NOT used these products, but they do provide excellent illustration of what a Human Controlled Spinner is, and both appear to be effective at what they do.

Normally, I wouldn't suggest something I have not used, but if these products do as their videos indicate, they could be very useful to you.

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I'm fairly new to the forum and want to know people's thoughts on article spinning.

I've done it well in the past to great success but the quality of so many of the services offering spinning vary beyond measure.

Does anybody have the killer strategy completely mastered, working and automated?

Waste of time.
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Sure, you can get noticed in the search engines by spinning articles. If that is your sole goal, have at it!

If your goal is to build a long term business that you can depend on for years to come, then put in the time (or money by hiring great writers) to produce kickass content.

That's what Willie Crawford did. He produces great stuff, IMO and I think he writes it all himself. I can "hear" him in the writing. Spun articles don't do that. Nor do PLR articles, but that's a different tale.

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article spinning means using software to produce a new unique version of an article. It does not mean creating new articles from scratch. Most article spinners support 'jetspinner' syntax. This uses curly brackets to specify how and where words or phrases should be changed. There are a bunch of free ones out there.


Content spinning means using software to provide a new unique version of an article. It doesn't mean making new articles from the start. Most content spinners support 'jetspinner' syntax.
This uses curled brackets to stipulate where phrases should be modified. There are some free ones out there.

http://www.contentboss.com - automated article rewriting software gives you unique content at a few CENTS per article!. New - Put text into jetspinner format automatically! http://www.autojetspinner.com

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Create a premium 1000+ word article and try to get the article posted on top blogs of your category as a guest post. In exchange ask for a link back with your specified keywords.

The raw link juice and traffic you will get from just this article will often mean weeks of labor you don't have to invest in writing/spinning articles and submit them to directories.

People forget that business is all about people and relationships. Are you out there building relationships with people in your niche? Blog posts are often linked to, posted on twitter, shared on emails, commented. There is a human side to it that just doesn't exist on article directories.

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Sure, you can get noticed in the search engines by spinning articles. If that is your sole goal, have at it!

If your goal is to build a long term business that you can depend on for years to come, then put in the time (or money by hiring great writers) to produce kickass content.

That's what Willie Crawford did. He produces great stuff, IMO and I think he writes it all himself. I can "hear" him in the writing. Spun articles don't do that. Nor do PLR articles, but that's a different tale.
Exactly! I can always tell when articles have been spun, even after the writer claims that they used a "human powered" spinner. There's just something lost...and for certain types of businesses the poor quality of the writing is going to hurt the business.

I can see using one if you just want the backlinks...but this isn't going to get you very far in information marketing.

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There are two types of article spinning - the first is done with software, and always creates garbage articles. The second is done by hand, and typically creates a lot of good articles very quickly. I love it, and it's definitely one of my favorite SEO techniques.

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You have to really set it up correctly to make it work for you. Proof read, proof read and then proof read.

Once you've done it a couple of times you start to figure out where you typically make mistakes. You can get pretty good at it after a while.

Some tools only spin, some do more. I like Milan's program (see signature) it also really helps automate most of the article submission process.

Nothing beats writing your own stuff and creating your own variations though. It is much easy to proof and as with everything, quality take time to produce.

Most of us aren't blessed with unlimited time, however, so any tool that frees up our time can be very valuable.

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Yes it works, but really just create new stuff, you can write an article on a subject you know in about 5 minutes. This post took me about 20 seconds or less it takes about 4 times this much content to meet ezines requirements. You get the point.

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I don't think everyone has a true idea what a quality article rewriter can do. If set up properly, this can take many hours, the content will be as good as hand writing articles one at time. With good spinners each sentence or paragraph has to be originally created first and than the spinner choose the variable. If you take the time to create all the material and plan it properly you can create dozens of article that will be >60% unique. The initial setup can take time but once done it very simple.
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Yes we are Alice. The systems that James and myself own are human
controlled, to coin James's phrase. You decide exactly what YOU want as
part of your output, and our systems will then create high quality articles
based on that input. That's why I often call ArtiFact a 'Content Creation
System'.

Because we've independently developed our systems, we offer other
unique additional features from each other. I'm not going to say any more
than that about our systems, in case I'm accused of pimping.

HTH

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We should really do a JV dude ...lol

I can see by the post that many still do not understand the power of spinning articles. I use my system everyday and will continue to do so becuse I can do everything right in one spot - create, compose, spin, submit, and etc... Many still fail to see the many uses articles have, which means many did not read my post in on this thread about the uses of articles.

Those that say they have no idea what 100 articles on the same subject is used for read my post on this thread.

I can take 1 article and spin it 20 times and then do the following:

Use 1 to submit to article directories
Use 1 to create a short report to build opt-in list
Use 1 to create a video articles to post on How-To video sites
Use 2 to create a squidoo lens
Use 2 to create a hubpage
Use 3 (the summaries) and post to 20 related blogs
Use 2 to post to my blog
Use 5 to post to the top 5 social networks that have a blog function
Use 3 to post to news release sites

Image what I could do with 100 or 150 .. You see I am provided 100% unique content for videos, squidoo, hubpages and ect .. Not all content is the same as it is spun "PROPERLY" ...

For those that say they can spot a spun article a mile away I promise you can not when that article is used with the proper tool and is written properly. Those that say articles that are spun have no "feeling" -- Wrong again ..

I can prove both of the above wrong and I challenge those that posted this to prove me wrong. I can produce articles that have all the feeling and you will never be able to tell the original from the spun one.

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Exactly! I can always tell when articles have been spun, even after the writer claims that they used a "human powered" spinner. There's just something lost...and for certain types of businesses the poor quality of the writing is going to hurt the business.

I can see using one if you just want the backlinks...but this isn't going to get you very far in information marketing.
Bunk.

This thread is turning into a monster because of narrow or misguided information like this. Spinning is obviously not for everyone, but I urge the OPer and others interested to read what the responses are from people who really DO make money online.

@James you have some great strategies there, thanks for sharing.

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2 beers for article spinning... it's the content secret.... Even if you buy articles from those "writing services"... those articles you buy are just spunned.

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but I urge the OPer and others interested to read what the responses are from people who really DO make money online.

@James you have some great strategies there, thanks for sharing.
This is what many miss... The money they "could" be making and learn from those that "do" make money.

The strategies I posted are only the tip of the iceberg, there are sooooo many more things you can do with articles which is nothing more than informative content (depending upon the articles ofcourse as everyone has seen horrid articles).

For those that say it does not work or it produces crap, here is an idea - Instead of putting down something that you obviously do not fully understand... Why not pick a good product (3 or 4 are mentioned here) and then create yourself an article and use the proper product to produce 100 articles that are 60% in uniqueness and put the strategies I mentioned above to good use. Then come back after you have "Taken Action" and tell me you made no money...

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I'm right now in the process of testing whether article spinning works. I'm currently using HumanSpinner to spin the articles and make it at least 40% unique. And then submit the spinned articles (2 to 3 variations) to JetSubmitter2 for them to distribute to about 300 plus article directories.

You can use your own original article or plr articles. If you are using plr articles, do not include it as one of your variation.

Now I'm just waiting for the results. My main objective is actually to get a lot of backlinks to my site with the relevant anchor text.

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I use PAR to spin my original article, then go over the articles myself to make sure they make sense. Then I submit. It works very well for me, but then I have a degree in English so rewriting is pretty easy anyway.
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I would say that article spinning Is a waste of time, you are better off just to write fresh quality content. Think like the readers of your content. Would you want to read junk, or quality content.
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I would say that article spinning Is a waste of time, you are better off just to write fresh quality content. Think like the readers of your content. Would you want to read junk, or quality content.
So what you are saying is that all content produced from a spinner is junk ? You make this claim based on what facts and on what data ?

You seem to have missed many post on this forum on this subject because if you read those post you would realize that spinning articles do work and work very good. Spun content is nothing new, it has been around for years and will continue to grow for the next 20 years.

I sound like a broken record here but anayways.......

If you use the proper tools and write quality content then a spinner will produce quality content. This content can be used 1,000 different ways and not just for backlinks. On the other hand if you write junk and use junk tools then yes you will produce junk.

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You know I have one Spunner that is quite good. To be brutally frank though, is that good for customer /web info leach. No, not at all, and Google is always gonna push hard on content that is, for want of a better word, less valuable I guess.

Personally, I use existing articles as a base to start from and then do extra research and outsource.
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So what you are saying is that all content produced from a spinner is junk ? You make this claim based on what facts and on what data ?

You seem to have missed many post on this forum on this subject because if you read those post you would realize that spinning articles do work and work very good. Spun content is nothing new, it has been around for years and will continue to grow for the next 20 years.

I sound like a broken record here but anayways.......

If you use the proper tools and write quality content then a spinner will produce quality content. This content can be used 1,000 different ways and not just for backlinks. On the other hand if you write junk and use junk tools then yes you will produce junk.

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To each their own, I am not saying that article spinning Is bad. I am just saying that I personally would rather write one unique article than to spin It Into hundreds of spun articles. Just my opinion.
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To each their own, I am not saying that article spinning Is bad. I am just saying that I personally would rather write one unique article than to spin It Into hundreds of spun articles. Just my opinion.
Spun articles are unique, this has been proven time and time again. When you as the writer controls all the text of that content how do you get that is not unique ???

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Both those paragrphs are unique and when I add 3 or 4 more paragraphs that are unique and spin it into 20 articles then it is still unique. It is unique because it was fully under my control as the writer, no pre-set database of words....

You see you are missing the entire point and just assuming that all content spun is with some form of auto replacement and this is not the case.

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i dont recommend, automated spinner. because i think a machine cant understand what you really mean.like using synonyms to a certain word, that could come out insulting.
its just my point of view.

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For those who keep asking about the "best" spinner, I am affiliated with neither of these:

Power Article Rewriter: I tend to be able to work more quickly with this tool, but sometimes find it hard to obtain high "uniqueness" percentages. I still use it.

Article Factory: For me this tool is a little slower but seems to produce higher uniqueness in a larger number of rewritten articles. I use this one too.

Website Content Wizard: Anyone remember this? I still use it because it has a lot of powerful features.

I have not tried James' product (yet).

There are hundreds of directories out there. Would you like to send the same exact article to each one, or would it be more profitable to send 400 unique-in-Google's-eyes articles?

Some say they would rather rewrite by hand. Well, that's all you're doing with a human controlled spinner. You take a sentence and rewrite a couple of different ways. Take a sentence and change the viewpoint. Make it into a question. Make it more conversational. Make it more academic. There are a lot of ways to say the same thing. The only thing you're doing with these tools is putting these variations into a database or a format that can be saved.

Each "spun" article was written by you. Just think of them as being sent by the infinite copies of you writing in an infinite number of parallel universes.

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i dont recommend, automated spinner. because i think a machine cant understand what you really mean.like using synonyms to a certain word, that could come out insulting.
its just my point of view.

heres a spinner. Spontent Jetspinner - The Free Article Spinner
You criticize article spinning, then you link to one? What's going on here?

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It is very simple: spinning by computer is always hopeless, whereas spinning by human input is much more likely to result in reasonable results.

Nobody has shown an example in this thread yet, so here is an article I wrote - and hand spun - for my readers for Valentine's Day: Be My Valentine: Your own unique copy of my article Be My Valentine (This is an example only - there is nothing to buy there at all).

Each time you open or refresh the page, the article changes.

After having written the initial article, building the spun version took about 20 minutes. Although I use a script I wrote for myself to achieve what I needed (not for sale), I believe both Glenn and James programs can help you produce similar (or better) results. I own Glenn's software but haven't tried James' one - but from what I've read, both are very good at what they do.

While I don't personally believe in duplicate content penalties, I do still use spun articles for many reasons - that have been listed several times in this thead. Manual spinning is a very useful tool/technique but it should never be confused with machine-spun junk.

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Martin, which particular spinner do you personally feel is best?
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So what is the best human powered article spinning. I need them for my plr articles.
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Power Article Rewriter: I tend to be able to work more quickly with this tool, but sometimes find it hard to obtain high "uniqueness" percentages. I still use it.
Agreed. I don't know why those percentages are so low, when I thought they should be higher. Anyway from the paragraph I read in this video, you can see that it is nearly 100% unique. Here is a video I made using it:

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I usually don't get into these spinning threads, but the answer to the OP's original question is truly "it depends".

It clearly depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your articles. If you're interested in using them to build traffic and links to your sites, then spinning a mass of articles from one source article would most certainly be a great tactic. If you're running a membership site where people are paying a significant sum of money each month for premium content, then 30 different versions of the exact same article probably isn't going to help you retain your members.

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I usually don't get into these spinning threads, but the answer to the OP's original question is truly "it depends".

It clearly depends on what you're trying to accomplish with your articles. If you're interested in using them to build traffic and links to your sites, then spinning a mass of articles from one source article would most certainly be a great tactic. If you're running a membership site where people are paying a significant sum of money each month for premium content, then 30 different versions of the exact same article probably isn't going to help you retain your members.
I disagree 200% and I will explain why, some of those lurkers back there looking for great ideas read real close...

I have posted over and over on the subject of articles and the "fact" is articles are used for way more than just submitting them to article directories for "traffic" and "backlinks" as soooooooo many people seem to suggest that is all they are good for.

Do we really need to list all the uses for articles, again!!

* Create PDF's and Other Documents
~ (ever hear of document sharing sites) ~
* Create Short Reports
~ (want to build a list ?) ~
* Create Blog Post / FaceBook Post / Tweets
~ (this can be automated) ~
* Create Hubpages / Squido Lens
~ (perfect for these sites) ~
* Create New Release / Press Release
~ (requires a little tweaking) ~
* Create Full Length Digital Reports
~ (well, want to sell an ebook ?) ~
* Create Affiliate Sales Copy
~ (yeah the merchants suck, use your own) ~
* Create Affiliate Ads
~ (again the merchants suck, use your own) ~
* Create Article Videos
~ (getting very popular, fast) ~
* Use In Social Networks
~ (they have blogs, comments, and etc) ~
* Create Classified Ads
~ (why write when you already have the text) ~

That is just a small list, the list goes on and on... Yes "SPUN" articles can be used for all the above. This is already a proven "fact" that it can be done and is being done by those that want to work smart.

Using the proper tools spun articles are also "Premium Content" I do not know why people give bad advice saying that spun articles are junk when it has been proven over and over again that this is fasle.

Ok so you with me so far.. You got the above burned into your head, right ???

The reason why I disagree with the post above is this...

If a membership offered PLR articles (not the same junk you see on giveaway events) that are written properly and covered 50 different niches. For the sake of this post let's say it covers the hot trends that are going around such as dating, weight loss, golf, dog training, and etc..

The membership offers a monthly subscription for $47.97 a month to have access to these 50 different packages of hot trends. Each pack will contain 25 articles. That alone is well worth the cost of membership when you consider having articles written at $3, $4, $10 a pop.. So you get access to 1,250 articles every single month for a small fee..

Sounds great huh ? Well we want to add more value than that and plus make life 200% easier for your members that are going to just love you..

We are going to take each of those 50 packs that have 25 articles and we are going to use a proper tool and spin them into 625 articles (that is each article spun 25 times). Because we used a proper tool each article is going to be 60%+ in uniqueness.

So now you have 50 packs (each in a different niche) that include 1 original article and 625 spun articles. Which now gives your members access to a total of 31,300 total articles every single month.

Now you just increased your membership value by 10 fold easily. I will explain why you have increased it so pay attention real close.

Your members have just had a great deal of work done for them because now all they need to do is go and get these articles out there. I am going to base this on a member just using 3 of those 50 packs.

* They load up 250 of them into word (or other similar programs) and they turn them into .doc format with the specified links they want to use. They save and go to a few document sharing websites and load them up. This will generate massive and I do mean massive traffic alone. Once they load them up all they need to do is bookmark and submit their rss feed.

* Next your member takes 150 more and install 3 blogs and use a auto drip feature (many sites or plugins offer this). They load up the articles and let it drip feed to their blogs -- All on auto-pilot. Other plugins for tweets and ect can be used here also for extra traffic

* Next your member takes 50 of those articles and create a auto responder series for the purpose of opt-ins. The offer a email course on their 3 blogs they just installed. Again this is on auto pilot.

* Now your member takes 150 articles and blast those out to article directories. A little work is requires with the keywords and adding the resource box but other than that they have a good amount of articles out there with little effort.

* Next your members goes tothe WSO section and grabs up one of those softwares that create squidoo lens. They use another 200 articles and slap up about 100 different squidoo's. They could use hubpages also but need to be careful here as google is picky...

* Now your member takes and splits up about 100 articles between the social networks they are a member of and post on the blogs, comments, create short post (which again short post can be automated).

* Now your member takes 500 more articles and zips on over to myarticlenetwork or similar site and slap those 500 articles in the system and let all the blog owners pick them up and post them to their blogs. Since the articles are already spun the blog owners will love to publish them because it is not the "same" content over and over.

So your member just used 1,400 articles and created one heck of a massive backlinks / traffic campaign that will generate them traffic and sales.

If your member wants to get real sneaky they also could just toss up a article directory and every month add a few thousand articles to their own article directory.. If done properly and using the right script google would just love them and show them that love too...

So now you just helped your member save $thousands$ by not needing to pay for articles or any rewrites. You also just handed them a huge monthly income on a silver plater.

Since you have increased the value of your membership by doing this you are now going to set your monthly fee at $147.97 a month. Guess what ?? It is still well worth the monthly fee because there is no way you can get those kind of articles written for no where near $150..

Also since you are taking and spinning these articles you do not want to saturate the market so you limit ( I mean really limit, not just say it) your membership to 200 members only.

Bottom line is... The poster above is wrong when he says it will not be good for a membership site. You just provided one heck of a deal for your members and helped them create a nice monthly income and you also just created yourself a $30,000 a month business.

You find some good writers pay them a decent wage $5,000 a month should cover it and you still have a very nice recurring income.

So now those that was just reading this lurking in the background you have just been given a 6 figure a year idea.. You have no more reason to lurk in the shadows...

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I'd love to see some proof that they "do work." How? AdSense? If you try to read even the best of them you will throw up. Maybe dyslexic readers may like them.

They are not worth the effort in my opinion. I have no moral objection to them, though.


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