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11 years ago

I received a frightening letter to my home address from someone who was obviously not of sound mind. I have domain privacy. On one of my sites I had used my real name and I guess they used a paid for but easily available address lookup service. We can only take the measures available to stay safe online.

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Coby

11 years ago

Also, the photos you share on Facebook, etc leave a data signature that usually includes your longitude and latitude. Most smartphones and digital cameras add this data without you even knowing it.

As if what you shared wasn't already scary enough!

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AmiHobbs

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Coby

Also, the photos you share on Facebook, etc leave a data signature that usually includes your longitude and latitude. Most smartphones and digital cameras add this data without you even knowing it.

As if what you shared wasn't already scary enough!

Cheers,
Coby

Picture uploads can reveal the location of your childrens home, school, and play areas. - YouTube

Yes, but all these smartphones and cameras have to have the option of turning off the recording of your geo-location; smartphones these days come with a warning, when you activate GPS tagging on your phone's camera, that states that information regarding your whereabouts can be stored into the picture itself. So we should always check for this option in the menu and try to stay of devices that have built-in GPS or turn GPS off when we do not use it. This way, there is no location information to be stored in your pictures.

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Coby

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AmiHobbs

Yes, but all these smartphones and cameras have to have the option of turning off the recording of your geo-location; smartphones these days come with a warning, when you activate GPS tagging on your phone's camera, that states that information regarding your whereabouts can be stored into the picture itself. So we should always check for this option in the menu and try to stay of devices that have built-in GPS or turn GPS off when we do not use it. This way, there is no location information to be stored in your pictures.

Yes, you can turn it off and yes it does tell you. (It shows how to do this at then end of the video I posted above)...

But - how many people actually do this? Or even pay attention to what that means? Plus - if you use the navigation feature on your phone you already have it enabled to see your location OR you have to go turn it off/on each time.

But even if you are aware of it and then turn off the settings that doesn't protect the photos you've already posted to the web.

The only way to clean the old photos is by stripping the location data from them. You have to be fairly techy to do that.

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Coby

P.S. I'm not saying you should freak out about it or anything - but if you have kids and/or post pictures to social networks it's definitely worth knowing. I'm the oldest of 7 kids so it struck an instant chord with me. But like it's already been mentioned - nothing can protect you 100%. If someone wants you bad enough - they will find a way.

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Raydal

11 years ago

So you mean all those movie stars, politicians, athletes .. the list goes
on should worry about their picture online?

How could someone get your SS number from your picture?

Really doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?

-Ray Edwards

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tritrain

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Raydal

So you mean all those movie stars, politicians, athletes .. the list goes
on should worry about their picture online?

How could someone get your SS number from your picture?

Really doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?

-Ray Edwards

They can create fake ID's, leading to your birth certificate, leading to your SS. Just an example.

They can use images to help create a fake you on Facebook or other sites and learn more about you via your real friends.

Remember that idiot CEO of Lifelock that used to show his SS on the side of a truck and billboards? His ID was used several times to cash fake checks at payday loan types of places. They dropped those commercials real quick. They only caught a couple of the ID thieves.

Ahh, it's just best to use a cartoon version of yourself or maybe some old black and white picture of some random dead person from the 1920's.

By the way Ray, thanks for the 52" flat screen TV that you are about to by me.

KIDDING!!!

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Raydal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by tritrain

By the way Ray, thanks for the 52" flat screen TV that you are about to by me.
KIDDING!!!

My credit monitoring service is about to send out an alert. Thanks for
making my work easier.

Now I could use this post as evidence.

-Ray Edwards

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discrat

11 years ago

I guess like anything it ALL comes down to Risk/Reward !

How high is it or how low is it for your circumstance ? And how much you can tolerate or not tolerate.

I am sure Mr. Crawford as well as others here have found it to be a very Low Risk/Reward Ratio in relation to their Lives and travails as Online business people.

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Willie Crawford

11 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I guess like anything it ALL comes down to Risk/Reward !

How high is it or how low is it for your circumstance ? And how much you can tolerate or not tolerate.

I am sure Mr. Crawford as well as others here have found it to be a very Low Risk/Reward Ratio in relation to their Lives and travails as Online business people.

Well, you can never completely eliminate risk, but you can reduce it.

At the same time, your customers often want to know who they are
dealing with... although that's more important with some products
than others.

You should to things to manage, reduce and mitigate risk. I just don't
worry about photos in a society where traffic cameras, ATM
cameras, security cameras, cameras on drones, etc., and constantly
taking our photos and storing them in databases anyway.

I'm a professionally trained speaker. I've had thousands of people
in audiences snap my photo... with and without them, so even
if I didn't share my own photos, hundreds of others would.

Willie

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Walter Parrish

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Raydal

So you mean all those movie stars, politicians, athletes .. the list goes
on should worry about their picture online?

How could someone get your SS number from your picture?

Really doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?

-Ray Edwards

lol easy ever signup for an affiliate program that asks for tax info? even if you are using an tax id its still connected to your social in some way.

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Raydal 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Walter Parrish

lol easy ever signup for an affiliate program that asks for tax info? even if you are using an tax id its still connected to your social in some way.

I'm a part of a prison ministry team and part of the application
process involves a background check. It so happened that an
inmate got a hold of the application forms and even though this
was discovered early the prison authorities don't know just how
far he got with them. So now I have to use a credit monitoring
service because this inmate had access to my information.

It has been about 18 months now and so far so good. But the
irony of it all is that I've been online for such a long time and
it was 'offline' that proved most dangerous to my identity.

Where are you going to really hide?

-Ray Edwards
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- RitaWrites 11 years ago
  
  Wow - this makes me want to run to Facebook as fast as I can and remove all of my photos there. I hardly ever use Facebook for personal reasons anymore but my photos are still on there. People that have their own writer's website say you should use your own personal picture on your website. I chose not to - maybe that was a good thing.
  
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tritrain

11 years ago

I can share some horror stories about people (including our friendly US government) that have gathered and/or exposed personal information. Think about how much is tied to your credit rating? Or maybe you have a criminal record. Nowadays people can find out way too much. AND THEN USE IT AGAINST YOU.

My recommendation? Do NOT put anything anywhere on the internet that you would not want to people to know. Create a 'pen name', alter ego, fake persona, whatever...

Facebook is the biggest mistake anyone can make. Your "friends or family" can share images or very personal information about you, only to have it backfire in your face.

Many ID thieves use Ancestry.com to gather more information about you. Even to befriend you on Facebook as some long lost 3rd cousin somewhere. Then the social engineering starts...

[edit]
Oh yeah, thieves love it when people post a tweet or Facebook message saying "I'm here at the coffee shop right now", then they break into your house.

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Willie Crawford

11 years ago

I learned long ago, that from the moment you win an award in
Kindergarten, and have your name and photo printed in the local
newspaper, things about you are being entered in databases.

It really happens all of our lives.

While identify theft is a real concern... people can already find
out a lot of data about you. I'm not sure how easy social
security number are, but since many of us enter them in forms
when we sign up for affiliate programs, and since many of those
programs have VERY insecure databases, I image it's often public
knowledge.

At the same time, I wouldn't do business offline with a doctor,
lawyer, accountant, or even webmaster, if they hid their
identities.

It's a matter of balance, but your customers do often want to
know who they are dealing with... and they often want to see
photos, videos, and even have live interactions with us.

To me, it's just a cost of doing business... although I do think
that you need to exercise some precautions.

Willie

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Ron Lafuddy

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Willie Crawford

I learned long ago, that from the moment you win an award in
Kindergarten, and have your name and photo printed in the local
newspaper, things about you are being entered in databases.

It really happens all of our lives.

While identify theft is a real concern... people can already find
out a lot of data about you. I'm not sure how easy social
security number are, but since many of us enter them in forms
when we sign up for affiliate programs, and since many of those
programs have VERY insecure databases, I image it's often public
knowledge.

At the same time, I wouldn't do business offline with a doctor,
lawyer, accountant, or even webmaster, if they hid their
identities.

It's a matter of balance, but your customers do often want to
know who they are dealing with... and they often want to see
photos, videos, and even have live interactions with us.

To me, it's just a cost of doing business... although I do think
that you need to exercise some precautions.

Willie

Precisely.

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Mike Hill

11 years ago

I guess we'll all have to walk around with burqas on...

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RogueOne

11 years ago

Well, you can never completely eliminate risk, but you can reduce it.

It's a fixed game, but it's the only one in town.

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williamrs

11 years ago

I agree that there is a risk, but getting people's information is so easy nowadays with or without photos... some people are careful with posting photos on social networks, but then they go to events and other public activites were others take pictures of them...

So, IMO, there is always a risk, not only with photos, but when you fill out a form or simply hire a service such as cable TV (often times we see employees of those companies being catched selling the clients' information).

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clever7

11 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I have a feeling this stuff is just going to get worse and worse as the criminals start to ramp up their sophistication.

This facial recognition experiment shows the potential for harm of many people out there doing business online !

Being able to get your social security number from just taking your picture out on the street is scary sh!t.

The owner of the facial recognition company warned that you need to be very, very careful in the 'trail' you leave on the Web !!

I think that your point is valid for those who don't take into consideration the fact that bad events can happen at any time, and they must be careful with what they say and show online.

Some people like to show off at Facebook and post photos about everything they do. They show the things they bought, the places where they usually go, etc. This is really dangerous.

I believe that this is done more by internet users who are not trying to sell anything online, but want to impress their friends. Internet marketers usually think about the bad side of being exposed.

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bloggerd

11 years ago

Wow that's shocking il certainly think twice now when sharing anything personal online.

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Long Beach Nathan

11 years ago

I think that usually, as long as you're not posting really personal things about your day to day activities and stuff like that, there's not much to worry about.

T.V. shows have a way of sensationalizing things that are often not happening near as much as they're making it out to be. Of course it's in their best interest to do that since entertainment is all about getting people to tune in.

But thanks for the post just the same. If nothing else, it's a good reminder that we should be careful to make sure the things we share online aren't very personal.

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tritrain

11 years ago

Well, our privacy and our private information is now a commodity.

GoDaddy will even charge registerers to NOT make their information public. Classy.

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Sarevok

11 years ago

Your information is so widely disseminated (and interconnected) that you have no clue.

It's not even worth struggling over at this point.

Even if you never upload a photo, you're still in a massive array of databases.

Mobile, Cable, Dentists, Health, 401k, Paypal, Creditors, Banks, Retail, Insurance, Webhosts, Steam, Apple, Loans, UltraViolet, LinkedIn, LexisNexis, Intelius, Social Networks, Universities, Microsoft.

(I could literally go on for an hour).

Many of the database custodians are largely negligent.

Identity theft is like a wet dream for all the scammers out there now.

And you'd be horrified to learn how many low level employees (say, at a dentist office) will have full access to customer information.

There's an overabundance of data, datamining is increasing, and there's very little regulation.

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oppyeaunome

11 years ago

I simply say that I know this is all possible but what can we possibly do now?

Truth is from the day that you are born you have been tagged until the day you die

Your computer has an IP address, your debit card and credit card has numbers that
are in a system. Your blackberry and Iphones all have numbers that allow them to be
tracked. The only option stay away from the public and never ever leave your house
and I'm not trying to be funny.

Listen all of us should just try to be a little bit more careful with the stuff we share online
because we never know who uses these social media sites like we do. We are all assigned
numbers so don't care how much we try to avoid its there its just something that we all are
just going to have to learn to live with.

Peace

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JonP

11 years ago

I'm all about security and probably about as paranoid as you can get because I read about all the hacks and data breaches that occur all day every day. Heck, I shred pretty much any piece of mail that has my name and address on it. That being said I don't believe it's realistic to try and "not" leave a trail on the Internet and keep your identity completely offline. As others have said, you have to conduct business with so many different entities that there is at least one, more like hundreds, that will have your name in a database somewhere that can be hacked or has already has been hacked. I agree that you need to take precautions and everything but it's really unrealistic for someone who wants to do business online to not have their name and/or face tied to at least one of their businesses these days.

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Walter Parrish 11 years ago

I agree with Sarevok on this one, but I do believe that the more money we make the more freedom we will have.

Someone else mentioned hacking. Years ago I was hacked and it was my fault for using duplicate passwords. The interesting thing was that I only used that password on two other sites that were supposed to be highly secure, which means that their staff had to have something to do with following me online and hacking my site.

Other experiences were when I applied for disability and within two weeks began receiving streams of spam related to my issue including cures, doctors, and lawyers to handle my claims. Not your ordinary spam.

I won't even go into total detail on my experiences with social networks and the many business ideas that have been stolen.

I just feel it's all a sign of the times and the people are becoming dumb and dumber so they don't mind giving up their privacy or giving away your name and information for a buck or sharing databases. I don't know if any of you had to deal with debt, but nowadays if you go wrong with one they all will raise your interest rates and charges.
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goindeep

11 years ago

Dude if someone wants to f**k you up they will find a way. Welcome to planet Earth, better not go outside it's raining crime.

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Bonita T Josephson

11 years ago

I am always against leaving trace at internet. I can build a business at internet without being revealed. Especially social medias are becoming the greatest sources to find personal information of people.

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JamesLeeOnline

11 years ago

Who knows what things will be like in 20 years time. You might be applying for a job at some point, and they might be able to see what you posted 20 years ago! Very concerning.

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11 years ago

Hey, if you've seen the movie Minority Report then realize that facial recognition technology is coming and going to be integrated into everyday life at some point.

Simply walking down the street in some cities means you are being recorded by cameras.

I don't think people should be paranoid about branding themselves with video or on websites. Branding is part of smart marketing. Just be cautious about what type of information you share.

Obviously, sharing your home address, phone number, intimate personal details etc. on social media sites is highly risky. But, sharing some personal information so people can relate to you is okay in my book.

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WillR

11 years ago

Your image is captured on heaps of video cameras every day you leave your house and go out into the public. If people want to steal your details they can easily do so by taking letters out of your mailbox. Not to mention all of the website databases of big companies that would be compromised on a daily basis without any of us ever being told.

It's just a cost of all this technology. It's a new world we live in. I have a friend who is very security conscious and always worrying about people seeing their pin number or using a credit card on an unsecure site. I tell them to just chill out. These days all of the banks I use cover any of those things should they ever happen so I would get my money back anyway. So I'm really not too concerned.

As someone said above, if people want to find you, they will. Also, if you are stupid enough to have your Facebook profile set to public and/or accept friend requests from people you do not know, you kind of deserve anything that is coming at ya. People have been warned about that stuff for years.

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tritrain

11 years ago

Once your precious personal information is made available to the internet and people/businesses (ie credit companies) then it is out there for good.

*Here's a little tidbit about Facebook. Those pictures of you that get put on Facebook essentially becomes Facebooks to use. There was a husband and wife, who each had a Facebook account. The wife happens to be pretty. So, because her images were on Facebook, one of the Facebook advertisers used her image for a dating advertisement on Facebook. And they were allowed to do that. The husband saw his wife there on the side of the page in an advertisement for singles!! Fortunately they laughed about it, but you get the drift..

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onlinesolutions1985

11 years ago

There are really a negative and positive about this in sharing your pictures, videos etc but it depends upon you on how you hold this situation.

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bhuff85

11 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I see these people talking about branding themselves and putting their names as a domain. And doing countless videos of themselves on Youtube etc...and building their business thru social media like Facebook and Twitter.

I would think that anyone who is out there branding themselves and really putting themselves "out there" would already be well aware of the potential implications. To me, that's just common sense.

Originally Posted by WillR

I have a friend who is very security conscious and always worrying about people seeing their pin number or using a credit card on an unsecure site. I tell them to just chill out. These days all of the banks I use cover any of those things should they ever happen so I would get my money back anyway. So I'm really not too concerned.

It's true that the money will come back to you, but it's still a pain to go through something like that.

I recently had one of my department store card accounts hacked online. The person got on and ordered a $100 blender. Used my account info and shipped it to Texas. After a dozen phone calls and constant back-and-forth between me and their fraud department, I finally got everything situated.

Still, I had to put a fraud alert on my credit and also had to place restrictions on my card, making me go through more security verifications before the card can be accepted for a future purchase (just to prevent the chance of more potential fraud). Had to cancel that card and get a new one as well.

As long as you're aware of the potential problems that can arise, then it is what it is. I wasn't really shocked that this happened to me, because it's basically par for the course. And even though I wasn't responsible for the charge, going through that mess wasn't exactly something I'd like to think as "fun".

But yeah - at the end of the day, your information is out there. Online or off, you can only do so much to protect yourself. If someone wants to access your personal info bad enough, they will find a way to do it.

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Arcana Media

11 years ago

Facebook strips the location (EXIF) data out of uploaded photos, so you don't need to worry about people knowing where a picture was taken if they just see it on FB.

More details:
Facebook Assuages Photo-Posting Privacy Concerns, Talks EXIF Data | WebProNews

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pacesetter007

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Arcana Media

Facebook strips the location (EXIF) data out of uploaded photos, so you don't need to worry about people knowing where a picture was taken if they just see it on FB.

More details:
Facebook Assuages Photo-Posting Privacy Concerns, Talks EXIF Data | WebProNews

- Steve

And you really do believe what facebook says? FYI, what they say and what they do are completely different things entirely.

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Walter Parrish 11 years ago

I just want to add one more thing lol. There is no where to hide except to make big money and in order to really do that you got to raise your vibration.

Sure you can sweat your cell phones or gps, but understand this if you were born in the U.S. you already got a full chipset in your body.

You could raise your vibration by meditating though, but that won't help when you intentionally log in to google and the facebook lol.
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- SageM4ster 11 years ago
  
  Sounds like some stuff from a movie... but I wouldn't worry too much about any of it. Just hire a security company to watch your SSN and identity for you. There are good ones out there and even credit card companies have identity theft services when you get a credit card.
  
  > facts about me: yes my own dad got a big loan in my name and SSN when I was 18yrs old and never paid it back. F'd my credit up for years!! But I got him back !!
  > I've had people steal my credit card info before just going to a fast food restaurant and swiping at one of those terminals. Now -- all I do is Drive Thru. Haven't had any problems in years.
  
  There are different things you can do... just gotta be mindful. Don't worry yourself to death!! Life is too short to worry about what others trying to do.
  
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- SageM4ster 11 years ago
  
  For those want a detailed list of things to do to prevent or at least hinder scumbags and thieves... I am willing to post several different things. I am sure there are probably a few scumbags on this forum.
  
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sirtiman

11 years ago

In my country still a lot of faker call to ask ATM password with their evil talk skills.

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