Here's a good business model that has worked really well for me

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Hello all,

Today I'm going to share one of my business model that has made me some good money in the past. It's a really simple setup and doesn't require too much funds to get going either.

Here goes:

First of all, the gameplan - I build a blog in a niche with a good amount of competition, I get a short report written from one of the people in my ghostwriting team, I do a giveaway on my blog which I promote a huge lot thus getting people on my list. Then, I actually get them to do what was mentioned in the report - for an example, If the report briefed on How to make $1,000 in 30 days or How to train your dog, I'll setup an autoresponder series with specific messages on how they can actually do the thing.

In between those messages, they need to buy certain things that are absolutely indispensable - for an example, hosting for a website setup, domain names etc. I rake in some affiliate commissions there and in the end when they have actually completed what the aim of the report was, I pitch them up with a membership site on a very low ($9.95-$19.95 / mo) range.

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Here is the process in details:

Suppose I picked up a niche - Making money online in general, and Website flipping in particular.

I'm going to start a blog and post a few posts there. I grab a domain name, setup an account on my dedi server and put up a premium theme on the blog. Install a few necessary plugins and we are ready to go.

Now, I'll order 30 articles @ $10 an article from my outsourcing team. Then I'll use the Wordpress scheduled posts feature to schedule all those posts on the blog on a regular time interval. (I mostly post after every couple of days!)

I'll get a short report written from my outsourcing team comprising of 15-20 pages that will normally cost around $400-$500. This report is specially designed in such a way that it serves *one single purpose*. For an example, How to make $10,000 flipping one website within 30 days. Step-by-step instructions, easy to read and something that actually makes the reader want to do it. I pay here for quality, and if you're cutting short, you may well be ruining the whole purpose.

I'll get an autoresponder series laden with 14-15 messages that go over a couple months time when I put out things in a sequence, more detailed manner where people can discuss with me anything they need to and thus I build a relationship with my list that I can leverage over time. Plus, with this autoresponder series and the personal touch, I get them to work which in results puts me in profit as they'll buy domain names, hosting, themes and other tools (for this example). People will look for the next email of yours eagerly to know what's the next step.

In the end, when the report + the autoresponder messages have served their purpose, i.e. made the subscribers do the particular thing ($10,000 through website flipping), I'll pitch them with a membership site on the low end, something like $19.95 a month. I get almost all of the people - even those who have made only $1,000 through their flip on the membership site. On the membership site, they can upgrade, buy a few things / reports / products I launch just for the members and then some more.

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Now, most of our work is set up. All we need to do now is to promote. I'll do a demo check to ensure everything is working alright and then head off to our marketing campaign.

I mainly use three tactics to drive traffic:

- Solo-ads
- PPC
- Joint Venture

Last two give you the best conversions and that's where the big money is. I find joint venture partners through Affiliate Elite and a simple Google Search for products in that niche. I'll then contact them and ask if they'd like to send a free report to their list. No opt-in required. On the end of the report, I'll something like -- For more details, Enter your Name and Email here, and link to my autoresponder. I get *laser targeted* people to my lists and thus my conversions are pretty darn good.

PPC is something I'm getting better at. I have my outsourcing team manage my campaigns. I'll usually spend more or less around $1,000 on PPC to get people on to my list and then the magic continues on from there.

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So here is the final breakdown from a recent such project (not the one in the example)

Domain name - $8.99
Hosting - It was on my Dedi, so I can't really count - but let's just say $5.
Blog setup fees - $100
Report - $400 (15 pages)
Autoresponder sequence - $997.
Solo-ads - $180
PPC - $793.80
Membership site setup - $1,500

Total costs: $3983.99

I got a total of 2794 people on my list from that particular website and the profits were something in the range of $14,000 from the affiliate commissions (I promoted about 6 products in the whole timespan).

The website is 3 months old, I didn't have to do much "work", it made approximately $14,000 and has 183 members paying $19.95 a month and 27 of them paying $49.95 a month. Total monthly revenue is about $4,999.50 .

As I promote it again, I get an influx of new members which makes some instant cash and then a few new members to the membership which makes some good cash for a foreseeable future.

I've 4-5 of those sites, some moderately successful (like this one), some failed drastically and some were amazingly successful.

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For those who are concerned about the costs, it's actually nothing. Most of the people can do that work themselves; i.e. content creation, site creation, blog setup, autoresponder etc. So the main costs for you would be what the marketing costs. And there as well, you can easily make good profits off of joint ventures which can then fund your PPC campaigns and then you can scale this up.

I hope that helped some people. It's really simple, but it works!
#business #good #model #worked
  • Profile picture of the author spearce000
    Printing this out as I write. Thanks for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
      Originally Posted by spearce000 View Post

      Printing this out as I write. Thanks for sharing.
      No problems, I hope you find it worth a read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Sustar
    It's an interesting business model and I honestly believe that it works well. I guess everyone has their own approach and if you stick to one thing for long enough, you make it work - congratulations for that, you are one of maybe 3% of the internet marketers who actually make it in the long term.

    It was a great read and even though I am already doing basically all those things (tailored to my business, of course), I got some new ideas for improvements, so - thank you as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
    Hi,

    This is a great post for newbies.

    If they read your business model, and really take to heart the important parts, they can save themselves a lot of time, effort and money.

    Here's why -

    Just like Armaan, most people offering to 'give' you a business model in exchange for something, like a payment, or an email address -

    a) haven't 'done it' themselves, or achieved the goals they claim that they have (and therefore,'so can you')

    b) have outsourced most (or all) of the content

    c) are jumping from niche to niche, using the same system

    d) have no interest in the fact that they are misleading you and sending you down a blind alley

    e) are only interested in making an ROI

    There are plenty of huge, successful businesses out there with online/offline business models that are already pulling in cash who have pots of money that they often need to spend with other businesses for their services and products.

    It's your choice if instead, you choose to target desperate newbies with BS.

    But it's worth remembering that they have a lot less money to spend than those businesses.

    IMHO, adopting this as a business model is just as ill-advised as signing up and expecting this type of business to educate you with a legitimate business model that you can follow.

    Do you believe the OP that the system works as easily and as well as they have made out?

    They have just explained to you that they make a habit of lying about this on a regular basis in order to make money.

    Do you believe them? Did the OP outsource the writing of this post? Are they not simply using the 'business plan' that they have outlined in the OP, IN the OP?

    Take note -

    Suppose I picked up a niche - Making money online in general, and Website flipping in particular.
    Then, I actually get them to do what was mentioned in the report - for an example, If the report briefed on How to make $1,000 in 30 days or How to train your dog, I'll setup an autoresponder series with specific messages on how they can actually do the thing.
    This report is specially designed in such a way that it serves *one single purpose*. For an example, How to make $10,000 flipping one website within 30 days. Step-by-step instructions, easy to read and something that actually makes the reader want to do it. I pay here for quality, and if you're cutting short, you may well be ruining the whole purpose.
    This kind of thinking is rife within this forum - on both sides. People thinking they are smart by fooling the gullible who have barely any money to spend, and no profits they need to reduce by re-investing. And those thanking the OP for generously sharing a 'business plan.'

    It probably wouldn't have looked so bad if the OP had just chosen 'dog training.' But the fact that they chose to use 'site flipping' is quite amusing because it just demonstrates the bizarre nature of a marketing forum full of marketers who are also consumers and buyers of marketing information. Yet no-one seems to get it. No-one questions the legitimacy of the income claims made in this OP even though the OP also advocates making up false income claims.

    Get with the program warriors. There's nothing wrong with being born naive. There's everything wrong with staying that way.

    Where's the 'No Thanks' button? ;-) Sigh...
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    • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
      Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

      Hi,

      .....

      Where's the 'No Thanks' button? ;-)
      Hi Roger,

      I didn't completely understand the post, but the parts I understood, I've the following to say:

      The way I worded it might have sounded easy, but it's not easy, there's a lot of work involved and it takes quite some time to set it all up. Plus the marketing requires a lot of research and a lot of things right on the right time.

      Do you believe them? Did the OP outsource the writing of this post? Are they not simply using the 'business plan' that they have outlined in the OP, IN the OP?
      It's up to someone to believe it or not. I did not outsource the writing of this post otherwise it would have been much more well written. No, I am not using the business plan that I've outlined in the OP, in the OP.

      This kind of thinking is rife within this forum - on both sides. People thinking they are smart by fooling the gullible who have barely any money to spend, and no profits they need to reduce by re-investing. And those thanking the OP for generously sharing a 'business plan.'
      I'm not trying to fool anyone. I just tried to post what I have. This is an outline of my business plan, and it makes money. I didn't understand you here again clearly, but If you were signaling to those free reports on How to do $1,000 from Website flipping, then No, I do not have those reports and I can't' promote anything like that here. I've no intention to do so either. What I have are reports no one here would be interested in laying their hands on.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpsterra
    Well done! The free report strategy is a great one.

    I particularly noticed how you integrate a membership site into all of your projects: something I always aim to do. However, I've found that not all niches work for a membership site. Lots of angry customers when they get the second bill.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Lol ^^^
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      • Profile picture of the author iantrader
        That's a manual in itself!

        Reading and digesting.

        Thanks for sharing and continuing success with your business!

        Ian
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  • Profile picture of the author gpsterra
    Wow, ExRat, you sound a little bitter.

    However, I would have to agree with you on a couple of things... there are definitely holes in the model. For instance... solo ads?? I tried those 2 years ago only to find out that most lists that offer solo ads were exhausted. And that was 2 years ago.

    But I do think that people can take the meat out of this post and use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi gpsterra,

      Wow, ExRat, you sound a little bitter
      Lol. Shoot the messenger if that's what you feel is appropriate.

      Alternatively, you could see the 'meat' in my post.

      But I do think that people can take the meat out of this post and use it.
      a) why would they want to? Does the internet need more people selling systems as tried and tested, that they haven't tried or tested? Is this really a blueprint for success?

      b) if people want to take the meat from a post and use it - from a self-confessed confidence trickster, more fool them. I see no meat here.

      Sigh (again.)
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Armaan,

        Let's cut to the chaste -

        You appear to be suggesting that people should go into a niche that they have no experience of, make claims or earnings claims that are not true, and have a report created that is sold/distributed on the basis that if the reader follows the plan, they can also achieve the same goal.

        Or am I mistaken?

        If so, please elaborate.

        If you had a really great system for making money/training a dog/whatever which you were going to share with your readership, why would you outsource the creation of the content? You would have to explain it all to the outsourcer just so that they were able to write it. You might as well write it yourself.
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        • Profile picture of the author gpsterra
          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

          Hi Armaan,

          Let's cut to the chaste -

          You appear to be suggesting that people should go into a niche that they have no experience of, make claims or earnings claims that are not true, and have a report created that is sold/distributed on the basis that if the reader follows the plan, they can also achieve the same goal.

          Or am I mistaken?

          If so, please elaborate.
          Woops,

          If that's the case, then I take it back... shame on Armaan. I guess I just assumed he had valid claims and results.

          Because, well, anything else is illegal (in the US).
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        • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

          Hi Armaan,

          Let's cut to the chaste -

          You appear to be suggesting that people should go into a niche that they have no experience of, make claims or earnings claims that are not true, and have a report created that is sold/distributed on the basis that if the reader follows the plan, they can also achieve the same goal.

          Or am I mistaken?

          If so, please elaborate.
          Hi Roger,

          No, I'm not talking about doing that.

          I'm talking about landing in a market, doing proper research about the market. If I do not have a good knowledge of any market, I can read through and learn something about it. Not that I'll become someone very knowledgeable but enough to know what's talking BS and whats not.

          No earnings claims are made here. I picked the wrong example so I'm sorry for that. A good example might be How to train your parrot to do a particular thing, or How to train your dog to do a particular thing. There, if they follow what is written, they will be able to train their pet for the particular purpose. I get it written by professionals, so that no ill effects or any such thing happens.

          My sole intention for choosing website flipping / Internet Marketing was better understanding (not by me, but by other people who can more 'relate' to it). I'm sorry, didn't think of it the other way around.

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          Once the report has served the purpose, i.e. to train their parrot to talk, I can link them up with something that is a better version of the training and it's paid.
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi Armaan,

            With respect, you appear to be backtracking.
            I'm talking about landing in a market, doing proper research about the market. If I do not have a good knowledge of any market, I can read through and learn something about it. Not that I'll become someone very knowledgeable but enough to know what's talking BS and whats not.
            Why did you completely fail to mention the 'proper research' in your blueprint? Isn't it the most important part?

            You then go on to say that it's OK even if you are 'not very knowledgeable.'

            Well how does that correlate with these -

            How to make $1,000 in 30 days
            How to make $10,000 flipping one website within 30 days
            Now you are saying -

            No earnings claims are made here
            Well what about these -

            I got a total of 2794 people on my list from that particular website and the profits were something in the range of $14,000 from the affiliate commissions (I promoted about 6 products in the whole timespan).

            The website is 3 months old, I didn't have to do much "work", it made approximately $14,000 and has 183 members paying $19.95 a month and 27 of them paying $49.95 a month. Total monthly revenue is about $4,999.50 .
            Can you prove these claims?
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            • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              Hi Armaan,

              With respect, you appear to be backtracking.


              Why did you completely fail to mention the 'proper research' in your blueprint? Isn't it the most important part?

              You then go on to say that it's OK even if you are 'not very knowledgeable.'

              Well how does that correlate with these -





              Now you are saying -



              Well what about these -



              Can you prove these claims?
              Hi Roger,

              Yes, that might be the case because I'm not very good with writing what I want. If I were to convey in my mother tongue, I'll be able to write this post better.

              Proper research is a very important part, my outsourcing team takes care of all that before they write the report. I said I pay here for quality - that includes researching the niche.

              I went on to say that I don't need to be very knowledgeable. Yes but with a combination of market research and not being 'very' knowledgeable, I meant that I need a good amount of information but it doesn't necessarily make me an expert on the topic. My outsourcing team manages all that, and I just need that much information to be able to classify BS from the good ones.

              For the 'How to...'

              I just gave that example because I felt it could relate more to the forum. As I said, I picked a wrong example and No, I never make any income claims with my reports. I picked those titles because they came to my mind on random. Obviously they were the wrong picks, sorry!

              On my claims of earnings from the last membership, yes, I can prove it. I'll hook up into my aweber and paypal accounts to dig out some screenshots for you.
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              • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                Hi Armaan,

                On my claims of earnings from the last membership, yes, I can prove it. I'll hook up into my aweber and paypal accounts to dig out some screenshots for you.
                Don't worry about it.

                I took the liberty of looking through your posts to get the picture.

                I get the picture.

                You seem to manage just fine with my mother tongue in all those posts Armaan. You also have a great knowledge of site flipping it would seem. Just like someone else, a Rich guy.

                My work is done here.

                Please don't shoot the messenger warriors - it happens so often here and it gets frustrating - especially when you're just trying to help.
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              • Profile picture of the author ChrisMarx
                I loved the post!
                It made me realize how much more I need to be outsourcing!
                Very helpful. Thanks
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                Just had my first $200/month with affiliate sales!!! Woohoo!!! :)

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      • Profile picture of the author gpsterra
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        a) why would they want to? Does the internet need more people selling systems as tried and tested, that they haven't tried or tested? Is this really a blueprint for success?
        So I guess what you're saying is that he's lying and hasn't actually produced what he says he did?

        Either way, well, I'm involved in quite a few niches, and they are all different. What works in the Forex market did not work in the dog training market (why does everyone stop using dog training as an example... stop! Too much competition already :-).

        For example: Contrary to what I've read in almost every product, building a list isn't always the best business model! GASP!

        Trust me, I'm an absolute Nazi about testing and I've seen that sometimes, in some niches, you actually earn more money if you don't build a list. Try finding a "guru" that sells in markets other than IM to tell you that!

        But I guess what I was saying is that nobody has the complete story and foolproof blueprint on every niche and every business across the internet. That's why you have to take bits and pieces of what some people say, try it, and if it doesn't work, toss it.

        No offense, but the title of this post is "has worked really well for me". Doesn't mean it will work 'real well' for everyone else. He never claimed to have the answer to everyone's problems, so I wouldn't jump all over him for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
      Originally Posted by gpsterra View Post

      Wow, ExRat, you sound a little bitter.

      However, I would have to agree with you on a couple of things... there are definitely holes in the model. For instance... solo ads?? I tried those 2 years ago only to find out that most lists that offer solo ads were exhausted. And that was 2 years ago.

      But I do think that people can take the meat out of this post and use it.
      Yes, and that's why I didn't explain further on it. Solo-ads still send me some subscribers.

      There may be holes in the system but altogether it works. The problem may be with my wording of the whole thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gooddeal86
      so arman, u outsource everything, wat do u hav to offer in the membership
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      • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
        Originally Posted by Gooddeal86 View Post

        so arman, u outsource everything, wat do u hav to offer in the membership
        It's different with different niches. For example, a dog training one would consist of dog training products, audios, reports, PDF etc and such. If there is room for anything digital, and it adds to the value, I include it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gooddeal86
      amran, just simply choose one of ur niche, how long did it took for you to put everything altogether before making money? am absolute newb here, just wanna know more
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      • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
        Originally Posted by Gooddeal86 View Post

        amran, just simply choose one of ur niche, how long did it took for you to put everything altogether before making money? am absolute newb here, just wanna know more
        It takes 2-4 weeks to research, setup and then finalize everything before starting my marketing campaign.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gooddeal86
      tat is without any knowledge of tat particular niche?
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      • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
        Originally Posted by Gooddeal86 View Post

        tat is without any knowledge of tat particular niche?
        Maybe. At times, a few of my writers have a knowledge, they'll just go through and research more.

        At times, not. Then it might take a bit longer. I quoted an about average time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gooddeal86
    awesome, so u have army of writers. thanks mate big cheers for ya
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  • Profile picture of the author Armaan.Zafar
    If you had a really great system for making money/training a dog/whatever which you were going to share with your readership, why would you outsource the creation of the content? You would have to explain it all to the outsourcer just so that they were able to write it. You might as well write it yourself.
    Sorry, I missed this part.

    Yes I outsource it because I can explain them my ideas and they can word it better so that it conveys the best to the end reader. If I write, I might mean something else and the message conveyed might be something else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    I think Armaan has been given way too hard a time in this thread.

    And I respect him for standing his ground.

    Nobody said you have to be a world class expert on the subject you are selling information on.

    for example: John Reese sold an ebook called "baby shower secrets" (i know that through watching his traffic secrets dvd's). I highly doubt JR has run too many baby showers himself. Then there is frank kern with dog training, I may be wrong but i dont think he is a world class dog trainer.

    nothing wrong with outsourcing the content creation to those who know about it (or are going to research about the subject).

    Also, here a membership is offered. If the content is crap the members will be gone after a month.

    regards

    Simon

    p.s. i can see why there are people (including myself) who would be VERY skeptical about this post. That's just healthy when in moderation.
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