My Progress So Far + Solicitation for Advice from Experienced IM-ers

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Hi guys, today's a happy day for me. It's the day I realized I'm now making a little over $2K a month from my websites. It's been a long journey to get here and there's been a lot of work and I admit I'm still a little confused about a lot of things...but I am pleased as pie to find out you actually can make enough money online to make all the effort and studying worth it.

That being said, I figured it's also time that I make some improvements in the way I'm doing things so I wanted to enlist the help of the savvy, experienced, IM-ers lurking around this forum. If you guys have a moment, I'd really appreciate it if you could look over the way I've been doing things, the changes I'm thinking of making, and make any - really ANY - suggestions on what I could improve on or implement. It's going to be a lengthy post, but I'd be eternally grateful for any good advice.

Okay, so this has pretty much been my way of doing things:
  • Find a niche that strikes me as fun and profitable
  • Create a site by researching and writing articles like a madwoman 'til I get to anywhere from 50 to 200 posts
  • Add all relevant affiliate links and Adsense
  • Stop working on that website
  • Rinse and repeat
With this process, I've so far created 12 "complete" websites, of which half are making money. I am now working on my 13th. At first, most of my income was from affiliate payments but now it's mostly from AdSense and Amazon.



So far, I've done pretty much NO marketing for my sites. Apart from buying a few social media signal services from Fiverr, getting a few links through article marketing, and spending a month of my time playing with making tiered links on backlinking software (waaaay too complicated, didn't go through with it, shelved it for now), I've done no promotion. All the traffic I'm getting is totally organic, mostly from Google.



I also don't touch the sites I've made once I'm "done" with them. I go crazy at one site - I've spent as long as 2 months writing exclusively, obsessively for one site - and then just stop cold turkey. A few weeks later, the sites usually start to rank and a few months later (I noticed, around 3 months), I start noticing income.



Now, as you can see, my "business plan" is kind of not a business plan at all. I have no real strategy. I'm just running on the wheel of creating new sites and well, creating more sites. I can tell the income from the very first sites I made - the most neglected - are starting to decline and I know I should do something about this but I don't have (or want to make) the time. It's like as soon as I'm "done" with a website, I don't really want to go back to it.



But still, I KNOW I'm not doing what I can to get all I can out of the websites I already made. A few are really high quality with lots of UVs. So I'm wondering...how do I promote all of these? How do I keep updating them? Should I hire someone? Keep researching the backlinking softwares? Sell a few?


Please, if any of you have experience with website MANAGEMENT - which I'm clearly lacking in - please, please advise me...
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    Personally If your system is working I'd stick with it. What I would do though is think about would be to keep on adding content to existing sites and flipping some of them. That way you could manage your dozen or so sites but also benefit from the cash flow from your flipped sites, where you could outsource article writing etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Here are some thoughts:

    1. Flip the sites that are not making money for you.
    2. Post 1 (come on you can do it) article to each of the old sites that make money
    3. Monitor the effect of #2 (above) and work out your ROI against creating new sites

    Essentially, I think you are doing just fine, but the above might help you tweak your approach a little.

    Good luck.

    Will
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    • Profile picture of the author harrydog
      Have you thought of adding some Video marketing into the mix. You can either create simple powerpoint type videos, whiteboard videos etc and set up a youtube channel
      If you dont have the skills or the time you can outsource this at a very reasonable cost. It would be a bit like your article marketing whereby you would probably need more than one video per site and keyword you are targeting
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  • Profile picture of the author muffty
    I think you're doing very well - to crank it up a bit I'd also suggest Flipping some sites, as well as doing some video promotion and also with the Niches which are working well why not create some Ebooks and start selling them through the Niche Sites you have as well as >>> On Amazon and Kindle??? Are you gathering emails through your autoreponder?
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Did I say a very Happy birthday to you. I probably have seen more and never mention mine now cause of that so it is good for someone to enjoy there birthday.
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  • First and foremost, great job for taking action and doing it consistently! You're seeing wonderful results because of it! But it sounds like you have IM A.D.D. LOL

    I think the advice of selling off the website you're done with makes total sense. Maybe that's just your business model since you don't want to stick with one website. There are always warriors here buying and selling ready to made sites so it's a profitable business.

    Hopefully you're building a list on these sites. Because that could be another source of recurring income by selling solo ads to other marketers that want to target your niche.
    You can make a lot of consistent money that way considering the number of sites you have. So that may be an option outside of flipping the sites.

    But I can't help but feel if you actually picked one or two that you're really passionate about and build it into an authority website you could make a lot of money!

    Anyway you're making some money and that's a great thing. It may be a matter of adding some additional elements like the list building and solo ads to make even more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    Cupcakemonster,

    You're internet marketing beginnings mimic mine almost exactly.

    I was making about $2K from just two sites when I first got started - and I was relying on Gargoyle for all of my traffic. In fact, one of those sites still exists today and I just received a commission check for $70 from the affiliate program assigned to it and it hasn't been touched in years.

    The best advice I can give to you regarding your (lack of) a business model, is to have an exit plan for each and every one of the websites you own. Unless you are running a blog in the manner Pat Flynn runs Smart Passive Income, the day will inevitably come when your websites take a dive.

    It would looks something like this:

    1) What maximum earnings per month, per site, would I be satisfied with before selling this site?
    2) Have I left any room for the new buyer to grow the site higher?
    3) Where does the typical buyer of a site like mine 'hang out'?
    4) What could I reasonably expect to earn from a sale based on all the information I have provided?
    5) Is this process of mine scalable and cost effective?

    You are correct.

    You do not have a business plan at all.

    You own 'temporary assets' that really shouldn't be considered assets in the first place, especially if the traffic comes from search engines almost exclusively.

    Now if you were to tell me that these sites you own were forums with established communities, we'd be going down another route, so I have to assume.

    The next piece of advice I would give you is to get rid of 8 of those 12 sites instantly, no matter how in love you are with them.

    You can't possibly run 12 websites, and run them all efficiently, without sacrificing something (usually quality in lieu of financing).

    I would venture to say that running 4 sites is much too much - and if you are 'SEO'ing these sites, you are in for a rude awakening anyway, so dump 8 of them immediately.

    After you wash your hands with those sites - start thinking about the foundation under which your business model was built.

    I interview 6 and 7 figure earners in internet marketing every week, and the thing they all have in common is they spend the vast majority of their time networking and collaborating with other smart, driven, and successful marketers while they focus on creating their own teaching and coaching programs.

    I suggest you take the skills you are learning and start creating course material that would be valuable to someone once in your shoes.

    Its those courses that become your 'permanent assets'.

    As you prepare this coursework, get networking with the people you aspire to be.

    I spent the first four years of my business burying my head in the sand and not focusing on the bigger picture and I lost all of that time in the process.

    Build that foundation first, start networking, and unload most of those sites.

    The advice I am giving you isn't something I read in Success magazine by the way.

    This is my own real life experience that has and continues to help me prepare for a secure future for myself and my loved ones.

    Good luck my friend.

    Hit me up if you need anything else.

    Brendon
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    • Profile picture of the author cupcakemonster
      Thanks for the responses, everyone. It seems everyone thinks I should sell a few of my sites. I've honestly been a little reluctant to get rid of any of my sites since 1. I know I could make them better/earn more with just a *little* bit of work and 2. they're sort of like my babies.

      But I think you guys are right, I probably should sell a few of them especially since I truly do have IM A.D.D. and enjoy the creating process more than the maintaining process.

      As for ebooks and list building, I know know know I should get on that...just curious: how much time does it take you guys to manage lists for one of your sites?

      Brendon Zahrndt: Silly question, but could you elaborate on what an exit strategy would look like? I've never "flipped" a site before and I'm not totally sure what I should be doing before preparing to sell my sites. So far, I'm thinking of doing some social media promotion and some guest blogging as well as posting an article a week on each of the sites I'm now planning on selling (just 2 of the bunch) while monitoring the earnings for the next 2 - 3 months. Hopefully during that time, my 2 sites will be earning enough to sell for what I want for them. Do you have any other suggestions on the flip-preparation process?

      Thanks again
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