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Hi all,

I gotta admit I'm not so big on lists (yet). I know there are a ton of list threads, I just have a specific sort of question.

What trigger mechanism do you use to get a subscriber's email?

  • Free report? Software tool? Book? System?
  • Do you blog & know your readers?
  • Use linkbait? Business card fishbowl?
What's their immediate payoff? Don't say "because I provide a concept called value" Say "because I give them marketing software," etc.



I'm curious about the physical benefit people provide to get those addies. It also says something about demand.


For example:

I usually opt into other people's lists for a free graphic download, a software demo, or an interesting WSO that I can integrate into my overall marketing mojo™. I think I never sign onto lists that use a popup screen while the page loads, before you can get to the page content. Not a fan of anything overlapping content. Why would I subscribe before I even know if you have what I was looking for??

Usually I'm stuck working out some digital issue and the only way to get a good solution is a) random web search (SEO), b) good (free) solution, c) no hassle name/email form.

If I sign onto a list and the site then shows a pricetag - I block them from my inbox. No shenanigans!


When I want to get subscribers, I use Freebies - mostly IM instructional reports - for subscribers to download - with mixed results. (Much of my traffic comes from offsite linkbacks, not regulars).


I find a few signups are from robot phish, especially from Craigslist. You can spot them because they want to negotiate payment on a free report. I can also sell more reports on Fiverr than give away free. (I'd rather have the user than the $3.92)! Gee, people! Stop trying to give me money! It's free, I promise!



I've gotten better subscriber results for people with real world services than digital downloads, FWIW. I guess that's the power of leveraging an existing real world need. You already have the customer's info. Boom, instant subscriber.


I guess my real question is, why are people subscribing to you?

What is their immediate payoff?
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    Originally Posted by ParkerArrow View Post


    I guess my real question is, why are people subscribing to you?

    They buy something from me.

    Originally Posted by ParkerArrow View Post

    What is their immediate payoff?
    They get a sweet product for a great price.

    As for freebies, I do all the above that you mentioned - minus the business card in a fish bowl...

    I find that software is great for getting opt-ins. Most folks don't get too excited over an e-book these days. But software still has a high perceived value. Plus it's easy to convert them to a buyer for a more powerful version of the software or maybe a complementing software.

    Cheers,
    Coby
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  • Profile picture of the author ParkerArrow
    Coby, thanks for your input! Is that "something" a digital or tangible product?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by ParkerArrow View Post

    I guess my real question is, why are people subscribing to you?
    What is their immediate payoff?
    They get "more of the same", because that's what they've been offered, in exchange for their email address. Sometimes in exactly those words.

    "The same" is my continuity process. List-building, for me, is about continuity. (And I gather that it tends to be for other marketers who maintain high open-rates, too).

    Something (an article, a guest post, whatever) attracts them to my site because they've already read 1,200-1,500 words of my writing and wanted more, and they clicked on a link that offered them more. When they arrive they find some more, and the offer of plenty more by email. It's a "screening process" as much as an "attracting process". The ones I want to sign up are the ones who like reading 1,200-1,500 words of my writing about the niche, because long experience in a wide range of unrelated niches has taught me that those are the ones who'll regularly buy products on the strength of my recommendations. As long as I keep sending them 1,200-1,500 words of my writing. But that's easy: I'm an article marketer so I'm writing the articles anyway - it doesn't cost me anything much extra to send them out by automated emails as well.

    It's true that I offer some sort of "free report" for their opt-in as well ... but most of the "niche content" in that is just a couple of 1,200-1,500-word articles, really. Because I already know when they arrive at my site that that's what they want. Because that desire/offer was what brought them there in the first place. "Continuity".

    Originally Posted by ParkerArrow View Post

    I think I never sign onto lists that use a popup screen while the page loads, before you can get to the page content. Not a fan of anything overlapping content. Why would I subscribe before I even know if you have what I was looking for??
    Indeed. Exactly. My visitors would hate that, too.

    Some people do sign on to lists built like that, but they're often not very good customers.

    The mistake, from the marketing perspective, is to confuse "the biggest list" with "the biggest income". They're usually two very different things, and there are reasons for that. The people who imagine they're split-testing but actually make their decisions on the basis of "numbers of people opting in" have typically missed the point, on this question, and because of that, their open-rates (and, I suspect, incomes) are far lower.
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    I normally supply some kind of guide or free give away!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheNewGuy2010
    Originally Posted by ParkerArrow View Post



    I guess my real question is, why are people subscribing to you?

    What is their immediate payoff?
    They're subscribing to me because they're interested in learning something related the free product that I am giving away. The immediate payoff would be determined by the subscriber. They determine what the immediate payoff is not me. I'd like to think the immediate payoff is, they learn something new or they confirm something they already know.
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    • Profile picture of the author ParkerArrow
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      The mistake, from the marketing perspective, is to confuse "the biggest list" with "the biggest income". They're usually two very different things, and there are reasons for that. The people who imagine they're split-testing but actually make their decisions on the basis of "numbers of people opting in" have typically missed the point, on this question, and because of that, their open-rates (and, I suspect, incomes) are far lower.
      Good illustration of a key insight Alexa Smith!

      All good answers so far! There are many things that a customer might find useful from a provider: Value, benefit, insight, advantage, opportunity....

      To clarify my OP, I'm more interested in the "type of meal" than the hunger. What are you attaching to the email?
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