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VPS - What do you need to do?

by Romeo90
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I am looking at going the VPS route for my blog, and am starting to swing towards Wired Tree more and more with the reviews I am seeing.

Here's my question:

What extra skills would I need? e.g I am with Bluehost now, I simply paid, clicked the install wordpress button, then I didn't have to touch any of the settings in my cPanel. I just built my blog.

I have seen some comments about having to add command lines, needing skills to manage your VPS. Is this true? Because i really don't want to do that.

I guess what I am asking is this: If I went to WiredTree, and took their migration service, would my blog just 'work' once they had migrated it?

I would really appreciate any comments and knowledge from people using WiredTree or any other VPS. Thanks.
#hosting #vps
  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Since you have so many questions I would go with a managed vps and let them manage it for you. On my server it is managed by hostgator. I used to have a server at home and managing one sucks eggs.

    Why do you need a vps, is your traffic that high. I mean if its the ip you can rent an ip address for 2 bucks. I don't suggest vps except for high traffic and hosting accounts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bish
    I have a fully managed VPS with LiquidWeb. It comes with a cPanel so you use it the same way as you would use a shared host. They look after the technical side of things which is great for me. Costs $60 per month fully managed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Radium
    WiredTree offers fully managed VPS plans so you don't have to worry too much about managing it by yourself and you won't definitely have to deal with command lines and such. What you can do manually is managing your host settings through an user friendly web interface of WHM and cPanel, but generally everything works right out of the box.

    WiredTree's customer support is very good and I'd suppose using their migration service would do the trick. I'm more of a DIY person so I did everything on my own.
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  • Profile picture of the author bapparabi
    IF you don't have knowledge about managing vps with root access ..then you suppose to go with full manged vps with cpanel included ..and as i know Wired Tree provide managed vps with cpanel so that will be best option and they will do everything ....from managing vps to migrating you blog form bluehost
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  • Profile picture of the author Romeo90
    Thanks for the replies, my questions have been answered.

    Hustlinsmoke - I want to go for VPS because I want speed, fast load times and no slowdown.

    Are these the wrong reasons to go for VPS?
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    • Profile picture of the author M@tt
      WiredTree's good (and this is coming from a competitor, so speaks volumes!). They should take care of the basic server management and security.

      You should familiarize yourself with WebHostManager and day to day management of accounts on the server. You also probably want to have some knowledge on keeping WP up to date, monitoring the server for load spikes / issues, account creation/deletion, backups.

      A VPS does offer lots of performance for relatively low cost but it does have a slightly steeper learning curve than just cPanel hosting.
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      • Profile picture of the author BeechHill
        I've used WiredTree for several years now and can highly recommend them. Any support questions are answered in a few minutes with complete and informative replys. Not just a quick one liner. Most all requests for server configurations by them on your behalf are responded to immediately. So, you have little to fear about jumping into the deep end of the pool for server management. That is, unless you want to.

        You will notice that your WHM will have a lot more features added, but most you really don't have to touch.

        They have features to speed up your WordPress installs if you need that. They are also constantly upgrading their hardware. Often giving you the benifit of extra features, storage and bandwidth at no extra cost to you.

        I'd suggest starting with their low end full SSD VPS option. Very reasonably priced.
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      • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
        Originally Posted by M@tt View Post

        A VPS does offer lots of performance for relatively low cost but it does have a slightly steeper learning curve than just cPanel hosting.
        Well, usually.

        Namecheap and Site5 both have a unique "VPS" account (no root access) that's more like a high-end reseller/shared account. They manage the server like one of their own, and that's another good option. You can worry about the site, they manage the server. And both are Xen based.

        That's another great option.

        They have unmanaged, too, for the DIYers (like me), but you on your own for problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
      Originally Posted by Romeo90 View Post

      Thanks for the replies, my questions have been answered.

      Hustlinsmoke - I want to go for VPS because I want speed, fast load times and no slowdown.

      Are these the wrong reasons to go for VPS?
      Maybe. A VPS doesn't always mean better performance. The main reasons for a virtual server are isolation, root access, custom scripts etc etc.

      what is your resource usage now? You could possibly be getting over you head with something you don't really need.

      VPS's can be oversold & host nodes overloaded just as much as shared/reseller hosting can, so keep that in mind.

      I would recommend looking at Xen, VMware or KVM servers and not OpenVZ.
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    • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
      No it's not, if you want speed though probably more than 50 bucks a month, I wouldn't go with anything less than four quads and 8 gb's and I would make sure its cloud vps.
      Originally Posted by Romeo90 View Post

      Thanks for the replies, my questions have been answered.

      Hustlinsmoke - I want to go for VPS because I want speed, fast load times and no slowdown.

      Are these the wrong reasons to go for VPS?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
        Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

        if you want speed though probably more than 50 bucks a month,
        But also be sure to understand what technology the provider is using. For example, there's lots of providers selling crap VZ VPs's on junk nodes for over 50 bucks per month, one of which is widely promoted on this forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
    Servers are easy to hack when used by novices, so definitely don't be cheap, use a crappy "me too" host (find a host that specializes in VPS), and get a good managed plan.

    Bluehost is a really crappy host, so you may not even need a VPS -- just a better host! So to answer your question, yes, that's NOT a good reason to get a VPS.

    Consider the enterprise plan (semi-dedicated) from Stablehost.
    - It's just as easy as BH was (easier, actually, because BH crippled their cPanel version),
    - has the power of a VPS,
    - and best of all, a bit lower cost than a VPS. I think that'd be perfect for you.

    And I know of other options if you need one.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    P.S. Sounds like you might want to learn too. When you make a deal with someone, ask them if you can also have an unmanaged one because you want to learn it If there not corporate they will probably give you a cheap one for free and you can study it without messing it up. bzb hosting would probably do it and I highly rec them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Romeo90
    Thanks for the replies.

    I probably have more questions than I started with for sure, because people are disagreeing with each other.

    The main thing I want is to go from the load time taken to load my blog and then opening the internal pages from this:

    Smart Income Detective Blog - Learn how to start a blog, create an eBook that sells, write for money and earn a smart income from home.

    To something a lot more rapid like the wired tree site (which is rapid) which loads like this:

    https://www.wiredtree.com/

    On a sidenote, has anyone used WP Engine?
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill321
      Not all shared hosts are alike - I use Webfaction and A2Hosting. Both offer very fast shared servers at very reasonable costs. I have also tried a lot of VPS offerings. VPS excels at giving flexibility that comes with root access.

      However, most VPS plans can be slower than good shared plans unless you buy a premium VPS. Just my opinion, of course.

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  • Profile picture of the author SoundsGood
    Hmmm, I've never heard of this WiredTree. How do they compare to Hostgator? And what about LiquidWeb?

    Thanks...
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