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Unread 16th May 2009, 07:44 AM   #1
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Hi everyone - I am so excited!! I am a newbie here and have been quitly going about my own thing and reading all of the great advice people give in here. I just wanted to tell everyone that i checked my CB account today and I found I had made a sale - which came as a result of an article I posted yesterday on exine articles!!!

I have been at this affiliate marketing thing for approximately 7 months - since my little boy was born - and I am hoping it will start to pay off now.

$20 isnt much I know - but to me it is!

WOO HOO!!!!
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Hi everyone - I am so excited!! I am a newbie here and have been quitly going about my own thing and reading all of the great advice people give in here. I just wanted to tell everyone that i checked my CB account today and I found I had made a sale - which came as a result of an article I posted yesterday on exine articles!!!

I have been at this affiliate marketing thing for approximately 7 months - since my little boy was born - and I am hoping it will start to pay off now.

$20 isnt much I know - but to me it is!

WOO HOO!!!!
Congratulations on the sale and keep up the good work. It's a lot of fun to log into your affiliate accounts and see money in there :-)

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Congratulation.

I am envy for you..Hehe...I still make 0 bucks after a month.

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Congrats! Isn't it a mental shift, like with that first sale you broke down a huge barrier and now you are free to move forward?

Again, congrats and keep going with what works for you. Leverage your work.

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That really inspire us. keep it up.
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Congrats! That is great news. And good luck to you as that $20 becomes $80 and then it becomes $200 and more!!

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Good Work Stay At Home MUM, keep it up.

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Brilliant work well done..hope more keeps coming!!!
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Nice Job and Congrats.

I still get excited when I make a sale, no matter how small or big it is

Just wait til you develop some momentum and you start getting commission
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Congratulations!!! Article marketing is very powerful... I can remember my first sale came from an offline promoting my online business... I was as excited as you are now...

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Hi everyone - I am so excited!! I am a newbie here and have been quitly going about my own thing and reading all of the great advice people give in here. I just wanted to tell everyone that i checked my CB account today and I found I had made a sale - which came as a result of an article I posted yesterday on exine articles!!!

I have been at this affiliate marketing thing for approximately 7 months - since my little boy was born - and I am hoping it will start to pay off now.

$20 isnt much I know - but to me it is!

WOO HOO!!!!
congradulations hope it works out for you.

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Congratulations! It's feels great to see the money in your account. It means you're on the right track and its' slowly paying off! All the best.
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That is incredible! Congrats! You are on your way to continued success! I do article marketing for myself and the businesses I do online marketing and social marketing for! It is a great way to get traffic. I work with Jeff Herring and his stuff is great. Did a video and blog post on him if you want to take a look...

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That's how it's done! Now you got your first sale, your confidence is up, now go get 'em!

Congrat's on your sale!

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Scale and outsource - it's the repeated efforts overtime that have a compounding effect on your profits.

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Well done on the first sale, now try to get more articles out there and over time you should have a nice recurring income soon. If you can I would try to outsource when you can to speed up the process.

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Scale and outsource - it's the repeated efforts overtime that have a compounding effect on your profits.

Congrats!

Do you realize there are outsource writers making $1000 a day?

I have made $1000 in ONE day writing articles.

7 months....$20?

....and it's congrats?

Seriously?

The "cumulative" dream is normally that. most articles drop off to a trickle quickly. If you want cumulative, take your $1000 a day, and buy some knock down real estate twice a year.

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7 months wow, Congrats, now you see what works, rinse and repeat then eventually outsource your work and watch the profit rise .
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Do you realize there are outsource writers making $1000 a day?

I have made $1000 in ONE day writing articles.

7 months....$20?

....and it's congrats?

Seriously?

The "cumulative" dream is normally that. most articles drop off to a trickle quickly. If you want cumulative, take your $1000 a day, and buy some knock down real estate twice a year.
Is there something wrong with congratulating someone on there first sale? That's a major accomplishment for a lot of people who have been struggling to figure things out online and it gives them the confidence to keep going.

JonesersRX7 tries to give Stay At Home Mum a little encouragment and advise and you get on his case for it?

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Congrats. I still haven't made my first sale yet. But I'm working hard at it!

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CONGRATS!!! good job mate now upscale lol
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Thankyou everyone for your kind words! I really appreciate them - every bit of encouragement helps.

It really motivates you when you have put something in place and it finally pays off - I love writing and from all the advice in this forum (which I only joined about a month ago) it has really helped me fine tune my articles that I write - so I will definately be continuing this until I do make $1000 a day and more (FYI BigJock) :-)

Thanks to all who have commented on my first thread :-)
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Is there something wrong with congratulating someone on there first sale? That's a major accomplishment for a lot of people who have been struggling to figure things out online and it gives them the confidence to keep going.

JonesersRX7 tries to give Stay At Home Mum a little encouragment and advise and you get on his case for it?

I don't get it.
Congratulating people for making $20 for 7 months work?

Even if she worked in a Chinese sweat shop, she'd earn more.

I have a real issue with working for 7 months for $20. Its inhumane and shouldn't be encouraged. Its nothing short of disgraceful. If she was employed at this rate by a large corporation, it would be front page news all over the world...but on teh warrior forum, congrats? Seriously....WFT?

This stay at home mom can keep doing what she has been doing, and maybe her next $20 will come twice as fast...from only 4 months work...

or...

She can take her (by now, polished) article writing skills and earn a minimum of $100 a day from tomorrow in a few hours at elance.

In 4 months, working a 5 days week, she would earn $6,000. In reality, she would earn twice this...and probably three time this.

Now, if this stay at home mom was your mom, which route would you tell her to take?

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7 months....$20?

....and it's congrats?

Seriously?
Damn right it's congrats.

It seriously IS a big deal when someone makes their first sale, no matter how long it takes.

Some people "try" this for years and still don't make a dime. Some may even
be reading this thread and many are definitely members of this forum.

It wasn't until my 9th month online that I made my first sale.

Boy was I excited.

But if what you're implying is that this isn't a big deal, then IMHO I have to disagree with you.

Once again, GREAT JOB and CONGRATS on the first sale.

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Thankyou everyone for your kind words! I really appreciate them - every bit of encouragement helps.

It really motivates you when you have put something in place and it finally pays off - I love writing and from all the advice in this forum (which I only joined about a month ago) it has really helped me fine tune my articles that I write - so I will definately be continuing this until I do make $1000 a day and more (FYI BigJock) :-)

Thanks to all who have commented on my first thread :-)
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Damn right it's congrats.
Some people "try" this for years and still don't make a dime. Some may even
be reading this thread and many are definitely members of this forum.

I think thats my point.

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I think thats my point.
I don't think that was your point.

You came across as sarcastic and kinda mocked her, then went on to
brag about how you've made as much as $1000 writing articles. (which is great by the way)

Too late to back track, but do as you will.

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That is soooo cool. I remember the first time I made a cash sale - I JUMPED out of my chair and screamed. My kids thought a spider dropped in front of me - especially since I started crying.

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Liz...I don't want what's bad for you. If you have that impression, you have it wrong.

If you want to write, you love doing it and want to make $1,000 a day, PM me and I'll coach you to get there inside 8 weeks. No charge...guaranteed success.

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I don't think that was your point.

You came across as sarcastic and kinda mocked her, then went on to
brag about how you've made as much as $1000 writing articles. (which is great by the way)

Too late to back track, but do as you will.
What? Backtrack? Are we speaking the same language?

I didn't mock Liz.

I mocked the ridiculous applause for a pay rate that would be laughed at in sub Saharan Africa...which is even more ridiculous since she ALREADY has the skills to make a life changing income in DAYS without drinking the cool aid that you can make a fortune sticking affiliate links in articles.

How to make $1000 a day writing articles? Simple....get paid $20 an article and write 50 of them in one day....or derivations thereof.

There are only 2 variables in this equation.

1. Getting enough work at this rate (strategies)
2. Doing the work fast enough (tactics)

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Congratulating people for making $20 for 7 months work?

Even if she worked in a Chinese sweat shop, she'd earn more.

I have a real issue with working for 7 months for $20. Its inhumane and shouldn't be encouraged. Its nothing short of disgraceful. If she was employed at this rate by a large corporation, it would be front page news all over the world...but on teh warrior forum, congrats? Seriously....WFT?

This stay at home mom can keep doing what she has been doing, and maybe her next $20 will come twice as fast...from only 4 months work...

or...

She can take her (by now, polished) article writing skills and earn a minimum of $100 a day from tomorrow in a few hours at elance.

In 4 months, working a 5 days week, she would earn $6,000. In reality, she would earn twice this...and probably three time this.

Now, if this stay at home mom was your mom, which route would you tell her to take?
The 7 months that she spent was not just working for nothing. There is a big learning curve to making money on the internet. Some people are fortunate enough to find and act on good information quickly. Others have to do a lot of trial and error to find the right way to do things. That's why we congratulate her. Something she did finally paid off, so again congratulations.

I'm not suggesting a "rinse and repeat" comment is the best advice but hopefully she is learning what works and she can repeat that.

If you do have some advice you'd like to share that can have people making $1,000 a day by the end of the week, I'm sure everyone would like to hear it. It just sounded like you were giving people a hard time for congratulating someone on reaching a milestone.

I'd be willing to bet that it won't take her 7 months to earn her next $20.

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Go Mum! Go Mum! Go Mum.... rats I just checked my CJ and still Nada.
Hey Jock... could I get a peak at those tips to jump start my affiliate sales too? How about it! Can you help a bro out, man?

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Awesome!!! Congratulations, keep up the good work!

Now you have made your first sale more will be just around the corner
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Congratulation Liz. Everything gets easier from here. Taking the first step is always the hardest. Good luck.
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The 7 months that she spent was not just working for nothing. There is a big learning curve to making money on the internet. Some people are fortunate enough to find and act on good information quickly. Others have to do a lot of trial and error to find the right way to do things. That's why we congratulate her. Something she did finally paid off, so again congratulations.

I'm not suggesting a "rinse and repeat" comment is the best advice but hopefully she is learning what works and she can repeat that.

If you do have some advice you'd like to share that can have people making $1,000 a day by the end of the week, I'm sure everyone would like to hear it. It just sounded like you were giving people a hard time for congratulating someone on reaching a milestone.

I'd be willing to bet that it won't take her 7 months to earn her next $20.
I understand your point about the learning curve, and its well made.

I would also bet (a lot) it won't take 7 months to earn the next $20...but this idea that it is a logaritmic progression in earnings is just nonsense. Its barely more than linear....the compounding rate is tiny. On average, the articles Liz has written over the last 7 months wont produce another $20 in the next 7 months, but will likely produce a few dollars....on average.

The "I got a sale from an article I wrote 10 years ago" is mentioned because its rarity makes it noteworthy.

I can't help anyone to make $1,000 in a week...It takes longer.

I can get anyone to $1000 a week within 2 weeks though....and it grows from there.

It isnt a simple matter to do it or explain it...but the two key elements are getting enough quality work and doing the work fast enough.

  1. If you win 10% of the jobs you apply for, you need to apply for 10 times more work that you need to fill your diary over a typical 2 week period buying cycle for most article marketers who scale their "businesses". Expect the start of this cycle to be soft and sluggish as buyers gradually award jobs.
  2. Dont compete on price...you cant win. Compete on value and high ball it. It's easier...and many webmasters aren't nearly as price sensitive as you think. Also, many webmasters see the intrinsic value of an $20 article as disproportionately greater than they do a $5 article.
  3. Don't focus on your own time to determine your earnings, focus on your value you provide.
  4. Ration your time through price as your pipeline fills. Continually increase your rates and weed out the bottom buyers as your marketing pushes newer, better buyers into your funnell.
  5. Realise that you will become an expert in a niche after a few weeks of writing articles.
  6. Be a specialist in a few niches, not a generalist, and cast your net wide to catch enough fish. I write poker articles for $30 a pop when Im not playing poker. I do one in ten minutes. I write business news articles for $25 a pop and do one in 6 minutes. Specialists always get paid more.
  7. Under promise and over deliver. Ration your time and book work in one week in advance. This creates the impression of scarcity and high value. If you can complete the job in 3 days, tell your buyer you will complete in 7 and deliver in 4. Repeat business follows.
  8. Analyse the systems and processes involved in writing. Highlight the high and low value adding activities and adjust.
  9. Identify your rate of expected value and make all business decisions in this framework. Don't do work that has a negative expected value. Find a way to get it off your hands
  10. Be professional. Do what you say you will do. If you're late, speak up early.
  11. Know your numbers backwards...like in any business.
  12. Build your feedback through outstanding service provision and ease of contact.
Hope this helps.

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I think there is a cultural divide thing going on here.

A lot of Americans simply don't quite get the healthy cynicism towards life that many Irish and British people hold; this type of sh** or get off the pot approach is typically not malicious and is very often delivered with tongue placed firmly in cheek, but it just goes completely and utterly over the head of some of our US cousins; let`s be honest, some WFM, in their uber-positivity, can take themselves a little too seriously.

Barry`s comments and analysis were basically correct and he has offered Stay At Home lass some very generous free help to make up for his perceived abruptness; she has made a net gain here, so no harm has been done. Use the offer to your advantage. Go girl!

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Liz, congrats. Keep the great work up.

Barry, good advice, but I am sure you realize you are comparing apples and oranges barring the one common factor - pay rate.

Liz is trying to sell products and her only way to market her product is articles, from what I made out. On the other hand, you do not seem to sell products at all, you write articles for others (and whether they sell products or use the articles for distribution is their headache).

These two just do not compare, if I understood both of you correctly. Period.

And if you comparing pay rates, I am sure a lot of CEOs and professionals make a huge money every day every hour. And lot of IM guys too make a few millions every year (1 million a year translates to almost $3000 per day). Again, you can not compare every apple with every orange and every banana.
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Congratulations! I am going to start getting into article marketing more as well. I've made $20 so far as well.
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Liz, congrats. Keep the great work up.

Barry, good advice, but I am sure you realize you are comparing apples and oranges barring the one common factor - pay rate.

Liz is trying to sell products and her only way to market her product is articles, from what I made out. On the other hand, you do not seem to sell products at all, you write articles for others (and whether they sell products or use the articles for distribution is their headache).

These two just do not compare, if I understood both of you correctly. Period.

And if you comparing pay rates, I am sure a lot of CEOs and professionals make a huge money every day every hour. And lot of IM guys too make a few millions every year (1 million a year translates to almost $3000 per day). Again, you can not compare every apple with every orange and every banana.
I dont think the IM millionaires are bum marketers though. Thats my point.

You can make money in online marketing, no doubt about it. I dont think Liz has her own product...shes an affiliate...clickbank maybe?

Im an affiliate, I have several good sized lists, I have my own products, I sell others info products and mainly physical products and I make a great living from IM and a fantastic living from poker. I've taught people to make money writing articles for webmasters...people who had lost jobs.

I think I know the exact number of IM'ers who make 6 figures as bum marketers. Zero. I'd be delighted if anyone proved me wrong, but Im pretty confident that not one loing term sustainable 6 figure bum marketer will step forward. There aren't any IMO. The bum marketing gurus are making the money from their little $7 reports.

I'd guess the vast majority of them don't make 5 figures and give up after a couple of years (lousy quitters...the bum marketing gurus would say....it takes a good solid 5 years of effort, they'd cry).

Its a crazy strategy for making money online, especially when it can so quickly be replaced with a few changes with a strategy that can make 5 figures a month.

Why is Liz selling products? Is it that she likes selling products? Would she sell products with Zero possibility of a monetary reward? Of course not. She wants the money...but she's also seduced by the fantasy that the money will continue to roll in on autopilot past a certain point. It's complete nonsense.

If I want to get from New York to LA....I can walk...but I can also fly. It's faster and I'll expend much less energy and need less sustenance along the way.

They are different ways to get to the destination, the modes of transport are apples and oranges, granted, but the destination is the goal, not the mode of transport.

Thats the difference we're talking about here.

The "opportunity cost" for Liz and people like her is a thousand dollars a day inside a few months...and they give that up for what...?

$20 in 7 months.

I cant sit here and read this and not speak up...it's wrong and I'd be ashamed of myself to say nothing.

Now, Liz might go on to have a glittering career in IM...and I hope she will. But she is never going to be able to pay for images, copywriting, info products she'll need, tools, programs and everything else while shes doing what she is now.

Im sorry...but thats a fact. You need thousands of dollars to kit yourself out properly for a career in IM.

She could however earn at a good rate and invest in her first website or product. That might make a difference and bring in autopilot income...which is the real goal here.

All the best

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Hi everyone - I am so excited!! I am a newbie here and have been quitly going about my own thing and reading all of the great advice people give in here. I just wanted to tell everyone that i checked my CB account today and I found I had made a sale - which came as a result of an article I posted yesterday on exine articles!!!

I have been at this affiliate marketing thing for approximately 7 months - since my little boy was born - and I am hoping it will start to pay off now.

$20 isnt much I know - but to me it is!

WOO HOO!!!!
Congratulation, I'm happy for you.

Been nearly a year with CB but still don't make $$$

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W H Liz to you too

It's inspiring for the rst of us to get posts like yours.




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Hi everyone - I am so excited!! I am a newbie here and have been quitly going about my own thing and reading all of the great advice people give in here. I just wanted to tell everyone that i checked my CB account today and I found I had made a sale - which came as a result of an article I posted yesterday on exine articles!!!

I have been at this affiliate marketing thing for approximately 7 months - since my little boy was born - and I am hoping it will start to pay off now.

$20 isnt much I know - but to me it is!

WOO HOO!!!!

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Congratulating people for making $20 for 7 months work?

Even if she worked in a Chinese sweat shop, she'd earn more.

I have a real issue with working for 7 months for $20. Its inhumane and shouldn't be encouraged. Its nothing short of disgraceful. If she was employed at this rate by a large corporation, it would be front page news all over the world...but on teh warrior forum, congrats? Seriously....WFT?

This stay at home mom can keep doing what she has been doing, and maybe her next $20 will come twice as fast...from only 4 months work...

or...

She can take her (by now, polished) article writing skills and earn a minimum of $100 a day from tomorrow in a few hours at elance.

In 4 months, working a 5 days week, she would earn $6,000. In reality, she would earn twice this...and probably three time this.

Now, if this stay at home mom was your mom, which route would you tell her to take?
I kinda understand what your saying and it makes sense however how one comes across is key. I would congratulate someone for their success no matter how small and if I could add value I would help them achieve more success. Had you done that I'm not sure if people would harp on you in this thread.

To some You came of as well (insert pun here--) a Bigjock, everyone has to have their own style so I'll give you that , and the education on online economics is dully noted and congratulations on your level of success.

Now I was taught that everything scales either up or down like this:

1. Article = $
2. Report = $$
3. eBook = $$$
4. Audio = $$$$
5. Video = $$$$$

All those elements alone do not make online success but each thing can stair step into the increased value and actual creation of the higher perceived value product.

Time says alot to were each person is at in their own life. When I started out online I could barley write a sentance. In fact my spelling still sucks and my grammer is awful.

But I felt great when months later I was writing articles, that people actually enjoyed. Then my list building took off when I compiled my best articles into reports for squeeze pages, and imagin what a super star I was when I figured out 3 of my reports could make an eBook that people would actually buy!

Call me giddy with glee when I had a person read my ebook and have an mp3 made, which still was nothing compared to my camtasia conversion and my transformation into a video marketing master.

According to some people the years it took me to develop in my own cocoon was crazy, my real world friend thought I was an idiot after all that email they got stated make 30,000 in 24 hours with Google.

Congratulations LIZ your heading in the right direction, never let anyone steal your thunder or compare your journey against anyone. Your only competition in this life is yourself.

Learn while you earn bear in mind the harvest never comes when you sow it comes when you reap. Why not take bigjock up on his offer and keep us posted on your progress.

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I know how good I felt getting that first check. Keep it up. Good luck.:-)

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I dont think the IM millionaires are bum marketers though. Thats my point.

You can make money in online marketing, no doubt about it. I dont think Liz has her own product...shes an affiliate...clickbank maybe?

Im an affiliate, I have several good sized lists, I have my own products, I sell others info products and mainly physical products and I make a great living from IM and a fantastic living from poker. I've taught people to make money writing articles for webmasters...people who had lost jobs.

I think I know the exact number of IM'ers who make 6 figures as bum marketers. Zero. I'd be delighted if anyone proved me wrong, but Im pretty confident that not one loing term sustainable 6 figure bum marketer will step forward. There aren't any IMO. The bum marketing gurus are making the money from their little $7 reports.

I'd guess the vast majority of them don't make 5 figures and give up after a couple of years (lousy quitters...the bum marketing gurus would say....it takes a good solid 5 years of effort, they'd cry).

Its a crazy strategy for making money online, especially when it can so quickly be replaced with a few changes with a strategy that can make 5 figures a month.

Why is Liz selling products? Is it that she likes selling products? Would she sell products with Zero possibility of a monetary reward? Of course not. She wants the money...but she's also seduced by the fantasy that the money will continue to roll in on autopilot past a certain point. It's complete nonsense.

If I want to get from New York to LA....I can walk...but I can also fly. It's faster and I'll expend much less energy and need less sustenance along the way.

They are different ways to get to the destination, the modes of transport are apples and oranges, granted, but the destination is the goal, not the mode of transport.

Thats the difference we're talking about here.

The "opportunity cost" for Liz and people like her is a thousand dollars a day inside a few months...and they give that up for what...?

$20 in 7 months.

I cant sit here and read this and not speak up...it's wrong and I'd be ashamed of myself to say nothing.

Now, Liz might go on to have a glittering career in IM...and I hope she will. But she is never going to be able to pay for images, copywriting, info products she'll need, tools, programs and everything else while shes doing what she is now.

Im sorry...but thats a fact. You need thousands of dollars to kit yourself out properly for a career in IM.

She could however earn at a good rate and invest in her first website or product. That might make a difference and bring in autopilot income...which is the real goal here.

All the best

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Excellent post. On this, I totally agree with you, yes, even on the Bum Marketing thingy as on today.

Liz, however, is trying her way and has met with a new success. She is going to pick up the different ways on her route if she sticks on and applies common sense, no doubt about that. But one has to begin somewhere, and it is great to see her begin!
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:-) Thanks again averyone for your words of encouragement.

BigJock while I understand your logic you do come across somewhat arrogant and negative - you may not mean to be but that is how you have come across.

Let me say a little about me - I have been raising my little boy as well as learning alot about IM over the last 7 months. My knowledge prior to these seven months in relation to the internet consisted of me simply checking my emails every other day. I had no understanding whatsoever about anything else to do with the internet. In the 7 months I have been IM I have been scammed (out of several hundred dollars), have learnt all about domain names, hosting, how to set up my website (which I am proud to say I have 6 at the moment and still being worked on), how to utilise blogs, how to article market (thanks to good advice from fellow warriors). and loads more.

So while you may feel $20 is nothing - let me tell you that it means a great deal to me because it demonstrates to me just how far I have come in such a short time - I am very proud of myself for where I am at the moment. For someone who chose a different product on Thursday to promote, put a landing page together and then took half an hour to write a good article and then less than 24 hours later make a sale - I still say WOO HOO!!

For people like me who are still relatively new to IM I wish you goodness - and it doesn't matter when your sale arrives (and it will!) you have every right to be pleased and happy about it.

Once again THANKS warriors - its guys like you that keep people like me motivated to keep going :-)
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