False scarcity -- an even sleazier approach

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It seems my post titled "The Most Controversial SEO Tip" got deleted. That's understandable, I suppose -- it too easily gave the impression I was advocating people follow the tip, when it was actually my goal to spark discussion and hear others' thoughts.

I hope this little post on false scarcity is more aboveboard.

The saving grace of the false scarcity claims that many copywriters use is that those claims are transparent enough to be cartoonish.

Well, here's something a little different from ClickBank's vendor promotional guidelines:

2. False Scarcity

We Will NOT Allow:

  • False scarcity messaging when there is no actual scarcity of the product (for example, “Only 300 copies” when there are unlimited copies, tickers running down the amount of time there is to purchase, and listing that this is a one-time opportunity TODAY only). Bolded words for the “one-time opportunity TODAY only” are the key differences to what is accepted below.
We Will Allow:

  • Messaging that states that the offer is available for the next “xx” amount of time (such as, “If you order in the next ten minutes, you will get …” or “Order today for this amazing opportunity”), as long as there is no messaging that states that the offer is ONLY available for that short time, or that it is a one-time opportunity or chance to purchase when there will be other opportunities available.
Notice how "If you order in the next ten minutes, you will get ..." is perfectly acceptable, according to ClickBank. ("Order today for this amazing opportunity," while seemingly different, has the same internal logic, so we'll ignore that one.)

The sleaziness of "If you order ..." is that it exploits the general public's propensity to commit the fallacy in deductive logic known as denying the antecedent. Here's the structure of that fallacy:

If P, then Q.
Not P.
Therefore, not Q. (an invalid inference)

If you order in the next ten minutes, you will get ...
You won't order in the next ten minutes.
Therefore, you won't get ... (an invalid inference)

The inference is invalid, but it serves the copywriter's purpose and gives the copywriter plausible deniability.

The fallacy of denying the antecedent is one of a large number of cognitive biases recognized in the social sciences. These cognitive biases form a largely untapped gold mine of selling power, and unlike most of what's found in any number of NLP approaches to copywriting, what we have here is sound empirical research.

If you buy me a beer for this magnum opus of a post, I'll be your BFF. (And if you've been paying attention, you'll notice that not buying me a beer for this magnum opus of a post doesn't necessarily exclude you from being my BFF.)
#approach #false #scarcity #sleazier
  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Some get mad at claims on a sales page, I used too. If you want to sell something you have no choice but to make that headline standout.

    For all of you that will say you can be eithical, show me one product that says.
    I don't know if you will make money I actually only make a 100 a month from this method but I want you to buy this from me.

    Now if you have launches and you argue the point with me, I may just go to your launch page and show the screenshot of your income statement and show how it was doctored to be real.

    Anyone can say whatever they want and show falsified proof of income.
    This doesn't bother me. I buy the program based on, does it sound like something that will help me in some way on the Internet. If so I buy it, if it's old hashed crap and I get nothing from it at all I get a refund, if there are methods in there I did not know about and they help me with my goals I will glady leave a great review.

    You pretty much have to go overboard with your sales pitch to get people to buy your product. I never buy anything till I click off the page once and sometimes more to see how low the price really is. I have saved as much as 20 bucks by clicking off the sales page.
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    • Profile picture of the author ragnartm
      Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post


      I don't know if you will make money I actually only make a 100 a month from this method but I want you to buy this from me.

      Now if you have launches and you argue the point with me, I may just go to your launch page and show the screenshot of your income statement and show how it was doctored to be real.
      I'm pretty sure you could sell a 20$ or less product if the result was 100$ easy per month.. and it just sounds so much more believable that then other claims. For the most part I just think "Why would you bother with this product if you're already a millionaire?"

      On the other hand if I read something like "10 Weird Tricks That Save Me 100$ And Hours Of Work Every Month!" That would be more appealing than "Step-By-Step, How To Make 53,460$ Your First Month!"

      Sorry about getting a bit off topic, I am with wolfe on this one. I don't buy products that try to leverage this sort of tactic, it just seems to me that they don't have enough faith in their own product. If they list the benefits of the product in a no-bs way, that's more likely to get me to buy... but then again I'm probably not their target market.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfe655
    I usually won't buy a product with those stupid claims and won't do it with any product I put out. When I see only 50 copies left and it is a digital product it makes me feel like the marketer thinks we are stupid. There is an endless supply of that product. I think a much better way would be to just say get it soon this product will be pulled at midnight sept 15, 2013 and will no longer be available.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    It seems my post titled "The Most Controversial SEO Tip" got deleted. That's understandable, I suppose -- it too easily gave the impression I was advocating people follow the tip, when it was actually my goal to spark discussion and hear others' thoughts.
    James, I didn't see your last post. But based on the title, it's possible a moderator saw the title and may have deleted it because it should have been posted in the SEO forum and not here. Of course, without seeing the last post I am only speculating.

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    • Profile picture of the author JamesBorg
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      James, I didn't see your last post. But based on the title, it's possible a moderator saw the title and may have deleted it because it should have been posted in the SEO forum and not here. Of course, without seeing the last post I am only speculating.

      RoD

      Ah, that's probably what happened.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    THIS WEEK ONLY 50% OFF!!!

    Really guys... this is so old now.

    Try an approach that is new.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterkailo
    I still see a lot of sales pages that say "Only 3 copies left!" etc.

    It's ridiculously misleading but at the same time.. IT WORKS as a sales tactic
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  • Profile picture of the author Jhangora
    I try and write informative Blog Posts and leave the decision to buy or not on the reader. Never experimented with Hard Hitting Sales Pages.

    Did read somewhere that most of the purchases on the Net are Impulse Buys. This approach may work with Physical Products which are Hot right now. Most customers are aware that Digital Products can be downloaded countless times.

    As far the TOS of big companies are concerned. I have never really read them. Some years ago my Digg account was blocked bcoz I was Digging links 2 pages which had affiliate links on them. Digg was pretty hot then. I sent them a mail questioning why I can't promote my pages and try and make money when they are displaying ads on their pages.

    Google Affiliate Network started with a bang and went down with a whimper. The real reason I think was that it wasn't user friendly. I tried creating custom links but could not succeed. Was a big surprise for me as Google lays big emphasis on user experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Originally Posted by JamesBorg View Post

    It seems my post titled "The Most Controversial SEO Tip" got deleted. That's understandable, I suppose -- it too easily gave the impression I was advocating people follow the tip, when it was actually my goal to spark discussion and hear others' thoughts.

    I hope this little post on false scarcity is more aboveboard.

    The saving grace of the false scarcity claims that many copywriters use is that those claims are transparent enough to be cartoonish.

    Well, here's something a little different from ClickBank's vendor promotional guidelines:


    Notice how "If you order in the next ten minutes, you will get ..." is perfectly acceptable, according to ClickBank. ("Order today for this amazing opportunity," while seemingly different, has the same internal logic, so we'll ignore that one.)

    The sleaziness of "If you order ..." is that it exploits the general public's propensity to commit the fallacy in deductive logic known as denying the antecedent. Here's the structure of that fallacy:

    If P, then Q.
    Not P.
    Therefore, not Q. (an invalid inference)

    If you order in the next ten minutes, you will get ...
    You won't order in the next ten minutes.
    Therefore, you won't get ... (an invalid inference)

    The inference is invalid, but it serves the copywriter's purpose and gives the copywriter plausible deniability.

    The fallacy of denying the antecedent is one of a large number of cognitive biases recognized in the social sciences. These cognitive biases form a largely untapped gold mine of selling power, and unlike most of what's found in any number of NLP approaches to copywriting, what we have here is sound empirical research.

    If you buy me a beer for this magnum opus of a post, I'll be your BFF. (And if you've been paying attention, you'll notice that not buying me a beer for this magnum opus of a post doesn't necessarily exclude you from being my BFF.)

    Unless of course everything to do with scarcity is in fact true like:

    - This one Time Offer is only available this one time AT THIS PRICE
    - There are only X number of copies left until the price raises
    - and so on...


    You can easily adjust the price with software and yes even on ClickBank.

    So scarcity, if in fact true, does work... especially when someone thinks you're full of sh!t but then comes back later on and BOOM the price just went up...

    The Warrior+ promotions are a good example of scarcity.
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    • Profile picture of the author SunilTanna
      I think the real issue in all these kinds of cases is deception. The tos is the thing you read after you've decided what you are ethically prepared to do. The tos simply tells you what you are permitted to do.

      Case 1: there is flat out lying to get people to buy something. I see this as fraud, and really you shouldnt need anybody to tell you this is just plain wrong.

      Case 2: there is ambiguity. There is always going to be some ambiguity in any complex sales message, and some debate about what a reasonable person might read into the message. You might also find other people do not interpret the message the same as you. Some genuine ambiguity is not only justifiable, but unavoidable. However if you are simply using some invented ambiguity as a cover for deliberate deception, then while this might be legally okay or might be permitted by some tos, ethically is different from case 1? I don't think it is.

      Case 3: there is honesty. Tell the truth and stick to it. If you say there are 3 copies left, or you will raise your price on 29th September, then darn well stick to it! You can still be inventive in your marketing and copywritng, but you will sleep better at night, feel better in yourself, and be running a business that you can be proud of, rather than ashamed of.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    I personally dislike using scarcity this way, but some people believe it is valid. I feel it is an attempt to fool those who ignore how the online world works.






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  • Profile picture of the author The Voices
    I have to agree with some of the others in this thread. If you say you're going to raise the price on xx date or there's only x copies left, that's absolutely fine if it's true.
    As Mike said, if people think you're lying then come back and see there's only 1 left or the price has actually gone up, that would make me more likely to buy - and I doubt I'm the only one.
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