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Jose Delgado 7th August 2008 10:05 PM

Should It be Allowed?...
 
I have seen other Forums that allow banners on the sig space.

Do you think this should be allowed? Now that images are allowed?

It will surely get more Click Throughs.

Interested in your opinions.

Lance K 7th August 2008 10:08 PM

No I don't think it should be allowed. But what I think doesn't matter. :eek:

Ask Allen. ;)

Uanz 7th August 2008 10:09 PM

By allowing banners, I think it will bring more spammers..

In my opinion, rather not.. as it is easy to put banners by copy &
paste rather than writing your own signatures.. Spammers will be
delighted if banners are allowed.. Easy for them to implement..

Don't you think so?

Jose Delgado 7th August 2008 10:12 PM

Agree Uanz. I was thinking the same thing.

But just wanted to know what other Warriors thought. :)

And maybe Allen can give his opinion too. :)

Cowboy 7th August 2008 10:13 PM

I have to concur with you guys. Banners are a distraction to me and I don't
think they should be posted everywhere by members.

I do however feel they have a place on this forum and their placements should
be determined by Allen.

Cowboy

Aegon 7th August 2008 10:15 PM

Yea it would be pointless and distracting. The WF should not be a place devoted to selling things, if it ever does then it will fail because it will serve no function to new people.

But what I think doesn't matter. I don't own this place, and they can do whatever they want, its not a democracy.

admin 7th August 2008 10:20 PM

This is a poll that should have never been posted. It will never happen no matter how the poll goes...

Michael Mason 7th August 2008 11:51 PM

I voted no. There are some other forums I use just for fun, and some of them allow banners in the signatures. This takes up a LOT of space on the page and you have to scroll down a lot to actually read the content on the page. I think that text links will be just fine.

mmurtha 8th August 2008 12:00 AM

I vote no too because it'll just make the forum look spammy!

And yes I agree Allen. It shouldn't have been!


Mary

Michael Dominic 8th August 2008 12:48 AM

I think allowing graphics in the signature would ruin the atmosphere. People would get carried away, they would be flashy, and distracting...

We're all internet marketers here, right? I think we can handle creating a powerful enough message to attract click throughs. ;)

dustinlemos 8th August 2008 12:51 AM

agreed, people will start using flash banners with sound effects and whatnot. That would get ridiculous.

Tirmizi 8th August 2008 01:27 AM

No , it creates toooooooo much crowd .... i hate pages filled with soo many banners .... it should be just for post and not for image hosting thingi

HeySal 8th August 2008 01:41 AM

I'm still zoned over the moving smilies I've seen posted in the OT - I HATE stuff moving around when I'm trying to focus on something. Banners? Ya just know someone would have stuff dancing all over them or flashing like a police car in the rearview mirror. Then there are all the issues previously mentioned.

Vote: NO, Nadda, No way.

Brian Tayler 8th August 2008 01:50 AM

This would be a HUGE distraction. I like coming to a place to converse and focus on business, not be advertised to. I don't mind the WSO ads or Sponsored Ads on the front page (because they are low-key and topical).

Banners? I can see it now... Flashing yellow and red really fast with a big font in blue saying "CLICK HERE!!!" Distracting? Yeah I'd say so...

grumpyjacksa 8th August 2008 02:24 AM

.........
 
Fistly, I have to agree that it would undermine the mission of the WF.

Secondly, I also hate flashing stuff when I want to read something.

Thirdly, it will probably attract spammers.

Lastly, the folks who still use dial up lines will have to wait forever while 25 banners are loading......

ps....

"Admin", isn't it good to know your decision is backed unanimously ? It shows the quality of your members you attracted, and what a success this forum actually is. Consider the replies in this thread as a compliment.

Kevin Riley 8th August 2008 02:33 AM

I'm against any banners that don't feature dancing hamsters and scantily clad elves doing the limbo.

Here is my banner prototype. Still negotiating with the elves:

http://www.hamster-dance.net/img/hamster01.jpg

zerofill 8th August 2008 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley (Post 6597)
I'm against any banners that don't feature dancing hamsters and scantily clad elves doing the limbo.

No one would let you have a banner option anyway Kevin lol

mmurtha 8th August 2008 02:50 AM

Lol Don,

Not in their right mind anyway! ;)

Dancing hamsters aye?

May

rgriffiths 8th August 2008 02:52 AM

Banners
 
I agree it will start to cause some problems. Not a good idea... But if they do approve it I would be first in line!!haha:D

JayXtreme 8th August 2008 03:59 AM

Since when were we polling for opinions on Allen's forum about his rules?...

I'm sure he'd make it super clear if he decided to allow anything new with this switch..

The WF rocks and I like it whatever way it is.. the aesthetics are cool and all, but it's the people that make it..IMHO...I'd be just as happy no matter how Allen decides to take it..

Jay

Jean Morgan 8th August 2008 04:00 AM

I am starting to have a problem with the pictures so banners... well Allen is spot on about this.

This forum is quality and Allen intends to keep it that way thank God

mindvalley 8th August 2008 04:49 AM

No banners please.

Kevin Riley 8th August 2008 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 (Post 6726)
Why is this even being discussed?

Uhm, because this is a forum ... and we can.

Tim Franklin 8th August 2008 06:16 AM

Huge Problem
 
I agree with the consensus, it would be a problem,

Not because banners are bad, but because someone would abuse the privilege.

You would see, huge banners, that totally distract from the content of the post.

I have seen this tried before and it always ends the same a few ruin it for the rest, by creating large, obtrusive banners, that flash, crash, and everything in between,

Good thoughts, but human nature being what it is, eventually it always ends the same.

PJ Morales 8th August 2008 06:18 AM

What's with these polls? "Should we have banners?" "Should bumping WSO's be allowed?"

I didn't realize that when we moved to the new forum it suddenly became a democracy.

Noah Fleming 8th August 2008 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ Morales (Post 6955)
What's with these polls? "Should we have banners?" "Should bumping WSO's be allowed?"

I didn't realize that when we moved to the new forum it suddenly became a democracy.

Agreed.
Not sure the point such a poll unless Allen is asking.

Lance K 8th August 2008 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley (Post 6945)
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 (Post 6726)
Why is this even being discussed?

Uhm, because this is a forum ... and we can.


Tread lightly dear Mission Leader. The Monkey God is in your quadrant. :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by admin (Post 6146)
This is a poll that should have never been posted. It will never happen no matter how the poll goes...


jensrsa 8th August 2008 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJ Morales (Post 6955)
What's with these polls? "Should we have banners?" "Should bumping WSO's be allowed?"

I didn't realize that when we moved to the new forum it suddenly became a democracy.

So you never listen to customer suggestions or opinions? They must take it or leave it.

Polls are great ways to test opinion, improve one's product, establish where to from here, etc.

And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.

Jens

Amino Zawawi 8th August 2008 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensrsa (Post 6993)

And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.

Jens

I agree with Jens, the poll system is there for many purposes including seeing the popular votes on forum improvements.

Here are my 2 cents:

However, I think banners are bad idea. I've been to many forums where it takes the page forever to load because of all the sig banners.

mattpaul 8th August 2008 07:10 AM

No banners we can direct to our websites anyway via links and to prove a point

Kay King 8th August 2008 07:44 AM

Quote:

And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.
I think Admin made it clear above that this isn't one of the reasons the polls are available.
Might be wise to get a clue from that.

kay

jensrsa 8th August 2008 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kay King (Post 7149)
I think Admin made it clear above that this isn't one of the reasons the polls are available.
Might be wise to get a clue from that.

kay

I can't seem to find the post you are referring to. :)

What I did find is that he strongly disagrees with the topic, as does all the posters - those for the topic don't seem to feel strongly enough to post. If we aren't allowed to discuss, suggest, poll anything regarding the forum that would be in the rules.

A poll is just that; a poll, not a demand, not even a suggestion.

BTW this forum is a democracy or rather a democratic monarchy since we as members moderate the forum but the king makes the laws.:)

Jens

2bneil 8th August 2008 08:22 AM

Banners in Sig files
 
No, I do not want to see banners. I have visited many posts where avatars and banners are big flashing monstrosities that interfere with viewing the posts. If your sig file is compelling enough then people will follow that to your web site where you can display all the graphics you want.

Lance K 8th August 2008 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensrsa (Post 6993)
So you never listen to customer suggestions or opinions? They must take it or leave it.

Polls are great ways to test opinion, improve one's product, establish where to from here, etc.

And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.

Jens


I understand what you're saying, but if Allen wanted customer suggestions or feedback on this topic, he would take it upon himself to conduct the poll. But he knows that banner sigs have a 0% chance of improving the WF "product" or making members happier (so it's a moot point even if a handful would like the change).

I say, feel free to discuss things like this, but when it comes to taking polls about changes and/or improvements to the Warrior Forum the most respectful thing to do would be to let Allen conduct his own polls (if he sees fit).

Kay King 8th August 2008 08:43 AM

Maybe I misinterpreted Allen's comment but when I saw "this is a poll that should never have been posted" my interpretation was "this isn't a good use of the poll function".

This is the quote I was actually responding to

Quote:

the poll system is there for many purposes including seeing the popular votes on forum improvements.
My thinking was that it's wise to pay attention when admin doesn't like this type of "poll"; it's wise to read and heed rather than argue. I don't think of the WF as a democracy - but as a great gathering place for marketers to learn and share information. Allen's been great about responding to suggestions and asking members' opinions but maybe a poll is not the best way to suggest.

But, then, I could be totally wrong, too.

kay (I miss the smilies!)

jensrsa 8th August 2008 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakading (Post 7259)
the most respectful thing to do

Lance, nobody here disrespects Allen, quite the opposite, I'm sure.

And the new improved forum gives us a lot of great new toys to play with, the poll fuction just one of them.

Polls discussing forum features and benefits are part of the forum experience, nothing more.

This particlular poll topic has had no takers, even without Allen's post, so it was going nowhere. Another poll on another topic may lad to some interesting discussions.

So let those who want to poll, poll, I say

Jens

jensrsa 8th August 2008 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kay King (Post 7294)
kay (I miss the smilies!)

Just activate the WYSIWYG function in your profile under Edit Options and you can smile to your heart's content:) See.

Jens

Lance K 8th August 2008 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kay King (Post 7294)

kay (I miss the smilies!)

Hey, Kay.

Go into your UserCP and click "edit options" under the "settings & options" tab in the UserCP left hand menu. Then scroll to the bottom of that page to Miscellaneous Options. There's a drop down box that will let you choose to have a full WYSIWYG editor. Then you can format your posts as well as use emoticons. ;)

asinGer 8th August 2008 09:07 AM

Im thinking a BIG NO! One of the great things about WF is that there are no banners, keep it that way!

AS

Jose Delgado 8th August 2008 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayXtreme (Post 6714)
Since when were we polling for opinions on Allen's forum about his rules?...

I'm sure he'd make it super clear if he decided to allow anything new with this switch..

The WF rocks and I like it whatever way it is.. the aesthetics are cool and all, but it's the people that make it..IMHO...I'd be just as happy no matter how Allen decides to take it..

Jay

Guys, I want to make clear that this poll was just to see other Warriors opinions. I wasn't trying to abuse or in any way, offend Allen.

I as well as everyone here thinks that banners shouldn't even come to mind because it will never be happening. It would take a ton of time for all those distracting images to load. So yes, I agree with all of you and with Allen too.

Just wanted to see how you would respond and I'm way not surprised of everyone's responses. I am sure the "Yes" votes are all from either Spammers, or total Newbiew.

:)

Lance K 8th August 2008 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensrsa (Post 7335)
Lance, nobody here disrespects Allen, quite the opposite, I'm sure.


Jens, you highlighted my post which says "most respectful" so you should know that I didn't say anyone was being disrespectful.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jensrsa (Post 7335)
So let those who want to poll, poll, I say

If you were hosting a party, would you want me to come over to your house and take a poll of all guests as to whether or not you should get new carpet and repaint your walls a different color?

I'm all for polls. But the WF is Allen's business to run. He's quite capable. Again, I'm not saying you don't have the right to post such polls. Just that it may not be the MOST respectful thing to do.

Lance K 8th August 2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigres409 (Post 7362)
I am sure the "Yes" votes are all from either Spammers, or total Newbiew.

I would say that's a good guess given the absence of any replies to back up those votes.

Radz 8th August 2008 09:12 AM

No Banner Signatures.. Text Signature should have rules too..

Ross Dalangin 8th August 2008 09:12 AM

No offense but I don't think it is a good idea because this is not a banner exchange :D

Jose Delgado 8th August 2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Dalangin (Post 7375)
No offense but I don't think it is a good idea because this is not a banner exchange :D

No offense taken. I have never even used a banner. :D

jensrsa 8th August 2008 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakading (Post 7364)
If you were hosting a party, would you want me to come over to your house and take a poll of all guests as to whether or not you should get new carpet and repaint your walls a different color?

Not quite the same thing though. We are members, not guests.

Jens

Lance K 8th August 2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jensrsa (Post 7388)
Not quite the same thing though. We are members, not guests.

Jens

I kind of see your point, but it's a fine line.

jensrsa 8th August 2008 09:43 AM

Lance, keep in mind that there are infractions and reporting by members as a back up to prevent offensive polls, posts, images, sig files.

So it should never really get out of hand.

Jens

MichelleGreene 8th August 2008 10:27 AM

This has the potential to get out of hand -- especially with animated banners

Michelle

PJ Morales 8th August 2008 11:33 AM

Well, since Jens says it IS a democracy because we're members, can we poll about anything we like? Maybe overthrow Allen because he didn't think this poll should have been posted? Maybe we should change the color scheme too. Any other suggestions?

I DO listen to feedback from clients, Jens, but that's a lot different than polling about changes to Allen's forum. Whether you want to see it or not, Lance's analogy was on the money, while your reasoning is off the wall.


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