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Does your affiliate stealing your profit ?

by elis
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when you sign up with affiliate program and the affiliate sales page have an optin box, does it mean that each one which get on his list through your links your going to be paid for their future purchases ?
how do you handle with affiliate having optin box in their sales pages ?
#affiliate #profit #stealing
  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Normally, this won't count for you but I advice you send them a mail and also get a friend to sign up on your affiliate link to see if it works as they claim.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lynn Terry
    It depends on the system they're using and the length of the cookie. Some systems code every referral as permanent, others don't. So you'll want to read the terms of that particular affiliate program and/or look at the system they're using and read up on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by elis View Post

    when you sign up with affiliate program and the affiliate sales page have an optin box, does it mean that each one which get on his list through your links your going to be paid for their future purchases ?
    how do you handle with affiliate having optin box in their sales pages ?
    It depends on the system used, but in general the affiliate is not on safe ground, in these circumstances.

    At ClickBank, for example, no serious, pro-affiliate will send their traffic to a sales page which contains a vendor's opt-in, because if an affiliate's potential customer gives the vendor his email address before the sale is made, there's no way for the affiliate ever to know whether or not he'll be paid for the sale (when it happens). Explained here in great detail: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

    Vendors who want to be able to attract serious affiliates need to provide another copy of the sales page, without the opt-in. It's quick and easy to do, and costs virtually nothing. If a vendor is unwilling to do that, on request, then one needs to think about what that vendor is really telling one about how he likes to do business (and find someone else's product to promote, instead ).
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  • Profile picture of the author craftziner
    Originally Posted by elis View Post

    when you sign up with affiliate program and the affiliate sales page have an optin box, does it mean that each one which get on his list through your links your going to be paid for their future purchases ?
    how do you handle with affiliate having optin box in their sales pages ?
    You mean, as in you being the product creator, and you join an affiliate program to promote your own products?

    In this case, the affiliate program you sign up with, for example JVZoo or Clickbank, takes care of the sales part for you. If it cookies the buyer with the affiliate's cookies then future sales would still send out a percentage to the affiliate because they are still using the links provided by the above program. But you still have the control of setting the percentage that goes out to the affiliate for these purchases using these programs.

    You can also create different paypal buttons etc. to facilitate the transaction if you don't want to use the affiliate link/program anymore, but it would be up to your existing affiliates if they want to promote those links to their list or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikefrommaine
    For my last product I had an exit pop up so that I could capture some of the leads. I then put them in an autoresponder series. The affiliates would still get the commission as long as the lead didn't click on another person's affiliate link.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by mikefrommaine View Post

      For my last product I had an exit pop up so that I could capture some of the leads. I then put them in an autoresponder series. The affiliates would still get the commission as long as the lead didn't click on another person's affiliate link.
      How is that tracked?


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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by mikefrommaine View Post

      The affiliates would still get the commission as long as the lead didn't click on another person's affiliate link.
      But how do potential affiliates know that you're not secretly skimming a percentage of the leads? (Obviously you're not, really - please don't imagine that I'm suggesting otherwise! But how do they know you're not, when simple, straightforward research reliably shows that so many other vendors are, in these exact circumstances?). If you've noticed that you hardly have any serious, pro-affiliates making large, steady, increasing numbers of sales, that will perhaps be the reason, Mike. I don't know any successful affiliates who will promote a product on that basis. It's just an automatic "no", to affiliates who know what they're doing, when selecting products. A leaky sales page is a leaky sales page. Nothing much to think about, here (for affiliates). It seems to me that although you can perhaps attract the 95% of affiliates who between them make 5% of the potential sales, you're certainly losing the 5% (or fewer) of the affiliates who make 95% of the potential sales. It may not cost you many affiliates, in other words, but here's the point: it can still cost you nearly all the money ...
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

        How is that tracked?


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        I can tell you how I would do it. I'd simply add a custom field to the opt-in form and used a bit of javascript to read the affiliate ID from the incoming URL, then set the value for the custom field to the affiliate ID.

        Any time I sent an email with a link to the product, it would be coded with the affiliate's ID, so clicks would still get the cookie reset and credit given if the click led to a sale.

        If someone clicked another affiliate's link and bought the item, that affiliate would get the credit, the same as they would if there were no opt-in.
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  • Profile picture of the author wesawu
    I would personally stay away from a vendor whose page has a leak, i.e., an optin box. To be sure, you can always sign up your self and see if any emails from the vendor has your affiliate ID. I once did that with a clickbank vendor just as a test. The first couple of emails had my affiliate ID, however, all subsequent emails from the vendor had his own ID. Needless to say, I didn't promote that particular product.
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