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Two Really N00b Questions about Squeeze pages

by Dirty380s
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So I am about to build some squeeze pages for various affiliate offers I want to promote from click bank..

Question 1: Every squeeze page I create do I have to buy a new domain and host it as a new site?

Quesiton 2: How do I redirect my opt ins to the my affiliate link offer?

Thank you guys so much, this forum rocks!
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  • Profile picture of the author NatesMarketing
    You do not need to buy a new domain for every squeeze page.

    You can create sub-domains, rename the files, or put them in separate folders - there are many options.

    so...like http://sp1.dirty380s.com, http://dirty380s.com/sp1.html, http://dirty380s.com/sp1

    To redirect to your offer - pending your autoresponder....look in the "hidden fields" section. You should be able to change the redirect value to the site you want to send people to.
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  • Profile picture of the author fcf360
    [1] Nope. You can have a common domain and have directories for each squeezepages as well.

    [2] Should be done by entering the Thank You page URL in the autoresponder.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    In my opinion:

    1. No you don't have to - but some do it that way - it's up to you.

    2. I personally don't like the idea of sending an opt-in immediately to an affiliate link. In my opinion, it sends the wrong message to your subscriber. When I see that, I immediately think - "All this marketer cares about is taking my money."

    I personally think this is a great time to begin nurturing the prospect with relevant and helpful content, be it a "welcome gift," an explanation of all the great things on your web site, some recognition as the newest member to join your site, etc.

    Maybe that's just me.

    At the very least, I think you can do a mild pre-sell extolling the benefits to the subscriber of what you are offering.

    Good luck,

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    • Profile picture of the author yakim1
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      In my opinion:

      1. No you don't have to - but some do it that way - it's up to you.

      2. I personally don't like the idea of sending an opt-in immediately to an affiliate link. In my opinion, it sends the wrong message to your subscriber. When I see that, I immediately think - "All this marketer cares about is taking my money."

      that's just me.


      Steve
      I always send the new subscriber to a product sales page. Most of the time it's my product and not an affiliate link.

      I also believe in giving quality content but I always have some kind of offer included in the content.

      I'm in business to make sales while helping other people.

      that's just me!

      Best regards,
      Steve Yakim
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      2. I personally don't like the idea of sending an opt-in immediately to an affiliate link.
      This goes for me also - very much so.

      This is something I wouldn't dream of doing. It would be a disaster for me, and blow my credibility completely. It's true I could perhaps make a few quick sales from doing that, but overall it would cost me a fortune to do it, because (a) the people who buy that way are going to buy a week later anyway (and much more confidently), after they've seen my free report and my first three emails, so there's no real gain, and more importantly (b) it would alienate half (maybe three quarters) of my subscribers by looking "just like any other marketer in going for the quick sale rather than in establishing a relationship with them". Seriously, for me this would be "Disaster City". I strongly suspect that many people doing this have not really tested the alternatives adequately and are simply doing it out of some sense that "it must work, otherwise people wouldn't be doing (and teaching) it".

      It would undermine almost all the work I've done attracting them to my site in the first place.
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      • Profile picture of the author BambiFox
        That makes so much sense when you describe it that way, Alexa.

        When I was a dancer, I made so much more money than the other girls because I would circulate through the club, smile at all the new customers, just talk briefly with them, showing attention to them while still demonstrating how valuable my presence was. And then moving on.

        I would pay a commission of my dance tips to any server who would let me know of a personal request. Being a little more elusive/exclusive than the others gave me a significant overall return than the dancers who would just immediately go into the "would you like a dance?" routine.

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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        This goes for me also - very much so.

        This is something I wouldn't dream of doing. It would be a disaster for me, and blow my credibility completely. It's true I could perhaps make a few quick sales from doing that, but overall it would cost me a fortune to do it, because (a) the people who buy that way are going to buy a week later anyway (and much more confidently), after they've seen my free report and my first three emails, so there's no real gain, and more importantly (b) it would alienate half (maybe three quarters) of my subscribers by looking "just like any other marketer in going for the quick sale rather than in establishing a relationship with them". Seriously, for me this would be "Disaster City". I strongly suspect that many people doing this have not really tested the alternatives adequately and are simply doing it out of some sense that "it must work, otherwise people wouldn't be doing (and teaching) it".

        It would undermine almost all the work I've done attracting them to my site in the first place.
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      • Profile picture of the author yakim1
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        This goes for me also - very much so.

        This is something I wouldn't dream of doing. It would be a disaster for me, and blow my credibility completely. It's true I could perhaps make a few quick sales from doing that, but overall it would cost me a fortune to do it, because (a) the people who buy that way are going to buy a week later anyway (and much more confidently), after they've seen my free report and my first three emails, so there's no real gain, and more importantly (b) it would alienate half (maybe three quarters) of my subscribers by looking "just like any other marketer in going for the quick sale rather than in establishing a relationship with them". Seriously, for me this would be "Disaster City". I strongly suspect that many people doing this have not really tested the alternatives adequately and are simply doing it out of some sense that "it must work, otherwise people wouldn't be doing (and teaching) it".

        It would undermine almost all the work I've done attracting them to my site in the first place.

        I believe your system only works if the subscriber stays on your list or continues to read your emails. As you know, it is getting harder and harder to get your emails read. There are all kinds of spam filters working against you and your broadcast timing may be wrong and you get mixed up in hundreds of other emails and are hit by a mass delete.

        It also has a tendency to culture freebie seekers.

        Plus you may not need to be as agressive because of your niche.

        You also have to believe that the product promotion you are sending the new subscriber to as quality content also. If you don't then why would you promote it.

        An affiliate link or product link can lead to quality content. I consider the promotion to be an upsell. You've sold them on the free product so why not on a low cost upsell that could give them much more content or be the perfect companion to your free content.

        You use a different system than I do because you depend on your blog to get subscribers and I use squeeze pages to get my subscribers. If they do come from my blog it was still through a squeeze page. Heck, I have one site that has over 100 squeeze pages that can be use when I need them.

        Squeeze pages are my bread and butter.

        The advice you give above may or may not work for other people who don't use a system similar to yours.

        May I ask, where do you send your new subscribers after they click the submit button?

        I believe you use single optin so probably don't send them to a confirm message.

        Best regards,
        Steve Yakim
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          I believe your system only works if the subscriber stays on your list or continues to read your emails.
          If people don't do that, in appreciable numbers, nothing works very well.

          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          As you know, it is getting harder and harder to get your emails read.
          My overall open rates have increased, not reduced, over the last year.

          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          your broadcast timing may be wrong
          I hardly use them, for all the reasons explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7301227

          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          An affiliate link or product link can lead to quality content.
          The ones I send lead to a sales page.

          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          You use a different system than I do because you depend on your blog to get subscribers
          I depend on article marketing to get most of my subscribers. But I send the traffic to a site with an opt-in on the landing-page, and it isn't a squeeze-page; this is perfectly true.

          Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

          Squeeze pages are my bread and butter.
          All the split-testing I've done (and that's a lot) taught me that when I don't use squeeze pages but a content-rich site instead, it ends up being a nice, fresh, crusty baguette and some lightly salted Normandy butter, instead. I prefer that.

          You and I have discussed this before, Steve. If what you're using works better for you than what I'm using, then stick with it. And if you can persuade all my direct competitors to use it too, I'll be even happier.

          Ultimately I can't really add to what I said here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Hunter
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    No you do not have to have separate domains, instead you can use subdomains to keep things organized to each relevant product/offer.

    As far as directing your optins to affiliate offers I have to agree with Steve B, you don't want to have an automatic email to offers right off the bat. Start thinking a bit more like the consumer rather then the marketer. Prior to the advanced pop up blockers we have today there was nothing worse then opening a website and being bombarded with thousands of advertisements. It was off putting and screamed SCAM!

    No one is saying that you can't offer your customer affiliate offers ever just be certain that before you have you've given them something of value with no strings attached.

    Remember you'll get more bees with honey then vinegar.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dirty380s
    Thanks for you input guys!

    I'm VERY new to this realm of marketing and I aware of the style of list building which you are talking about Alexa. Get Opt in, give them cool free stuff and eventually you sell them something that can help them get results more efficiently or more quickly then before. I have watched many Frank Kern videos outlining tactics like this.

    However..the reason I was asking these questions was because I want to have a page disguised as an opt in. Somthing like "Do you want to know how to train your dog in the next 30 min?!? Bullet points, then a "LET ME IN" button above their email opt in. So I am not giving them a free report or webinar..i'm simply tempting them to go to the next step which is being redirected to the offer they have already shown interest in by clicking on my ad. If they don't purchase, which 98% wont, I can then mail them again with similar offers. I know this isn't the most sound way of list building, but it is something I would like to try. Does my logic make sense?

    This is strictly testing for me and actually quite fun as it turns out.

    BTW I have read some of your posts and I thank you for your input on this forum. Please enlighten me if you wish
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Dirty380s View Post

      If they don't purchase, which 98% wont, I can then mail them again with similar offers.
      I think it'll be hard to opt people in, that way.

      I suspect it will also be a lot more than 98% who don't purchase. Very few people purchase things the first time they see the sales page.

      You can mail them again with similar offers, as you say, but I suspect their open-rates, attention-rates and click-through rates for your email series will be very low, after you've shown them a sales page the minute they've opted in. Many will already have lost interest in you. And it's their feelings toward you that primarily determine your future income.

      It will probably put most people off and greatly limit your future income as a result, in my opinion.

      Call me a skepchick but I strongly suspect that the people who use methods like this are the very same ones who end up telling others here (actually in the process of trying to convince themselves!) that "a 20% open-rate is normal in this industry". And perhaps it even is normal, to people who try to build lists with methods like this.

      The way I achieve very high open-rates for my emails (and let's not forget that it's the emails - not the website - that produce the income, in affiliate marketing) is by making a big point of not coming across as "just another marketer trying to make a quick sale". And the way I come across that way is by not trying to make a quick sale. I sell far, far more that way (I've tried the other way, too).

      Appreciate that the few "quick sales" you make this way (at the expense of a lot of later sales) are not really gaining anything. Don't let the superficial appearance of the timing of the sales fool you, as it fools some other people: the key concept is that those are sales you were going to make soon enough anyway, so there was no real gain. You don't need to take my word for it: you can test it for yourself and see. Those who do test it certainly seem to change their minds.

      Originally Posted by Dirty380s View Post

      I know this isn't the most sound way of list building
      My case rests. :p
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