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| Lookin at You.... War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Out Of My Mind - Brandy Too
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I have to be honest.. My success with giveaways has been OK... not massive, but proportionate to the time I have invested.. so it's cool.. ![]() But, upon my inspection of the last 3 giveaways I was asked to pitch and get involved with.. I came to the conclusion that 90% of the submitted products are really bad. 1 of them being run by a close friend of mine.. The content was embarrassingly poor and mostly just PLR goods that have been grabbed from elsewhere, not edited at all and submitted as a "product"... Is the giveaway becoming a scrap heap for I.M. PLR?... I've never pitched a giveaway to any of my lists, most of my success with them has come from organic traffic, blog traffic and paid traffic.. I never feel comfortable promoting them to my I.M. lists, because I can't personally verify the quality of submitted products each time... Your thoughts?.. Peace Jay |
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| Dare To Be Different War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: U.K.
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Hi Jay, Quote:
![]() On the other side of the coin though, anyone who signs up and feverishly downloads it all must be quite 'green', so if someone were to be targeting newbs, I imagine giveaways would be a good way to do it. | |
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| I.C.Hope War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Northern Ireland
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I specifically took time out of my day to create a unique product for the recent giveaways but thats me and some people do just submit anything they can find on their hard drive but to say there are crap proructs that is very true but only to them who have seen them before, to those that haven't they are seeing gold. I liked some of the stuff in the recnt QueenBJv but problem is it was shut down before i could get the products I wanted.. so there still is a reason to visit them for me and I'm sure for many others. |
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| formerly "linm" War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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I've received a few good giveaways here and there, but you are correct in that they are few and far between. I don't know how many times I have paid for something or joined a free membership site only to be thrown like thousands of I.M. PLR files. It seems really neat at first but most of it is a bunch of garbage.
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| Lookin at You.... War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Out Of My Mind - Brandy Too
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The 3 that I looked at recently.. I didn't have to sign up, just grabbed a JV login and began investigating... It left me bored, and bemused at what was on offer.. Peace Jay | |
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| Ken Perry War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Tucson, Phoenix AZ
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For the most part, yes... At least the last few like you stated. None were really worth exploring...just to find MAYBE one product... Question: How do you find your list generated through giveaway events? Responsive for the most part...or non-responsive - just looking for freebies? Do they sign up to receive just "free stuff"...once you pitch anything to them they are non-responsive or unsubscribe all together? Ken | |
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| Lookin at You.... War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Out Of My Mind - Brandy Too
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How are ya? To be honest... it was surprisingly responsive, although still not a high level of action. I don't find it a difficult list to work.. but the R.O.I. isn't quite high enough for me to want to keep duplicating it. Most of the time, I try to provide added content with "contextual ads" around it, blogs with ads.. newsletter with ads... and then every once in a while.. straight pitch. This results in a ton of unsubscribes on the pitch, but also a barrage of sales too ![]() Peace Jay | |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008
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It depends on the focus of the person offering the giveaway. If they are just pandering to the average person's desire to get something for nothing then most of the time it is just recycled crap, and not worth looking at. However, I've found that a growing number of marketers are actually starting to give out valuable stuff for free as a sort of "loss leader" to hook potential customers into signing up for their paid products/services.
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Francisco, CA
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I'll pick a few of the gems and then I'll tell my list so they can go find them. A few times I'll even do a screencast inside the giveaway showing them the good stuff. But I do find my list isn't as responsive when I tell them about giveaways so won't be spending much more time on that. Personally I still use giveaways to build my list. I'm picky about the giveaways I participate in. But yes a lot of the gifts are crappy. I never use PLR. I use my own stuff. I make sure to let them know it's my own stuff not PLR and I usually pick up 100-200 new subscribers. Not bad since it only takes a few minutes to setup. I recommend giveaways for list building to my list and in my blog especially if you're just starting out. But I make it clear to never, ever, ever, ever, ever, slap on the tired ole PLR report with the same tired ole graphic that has been round the block a few million times. You're just wasting everyones time doing that. |
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People will always take the shortcut, specially if some gurus tell them that it's OK to do. Tyrus |
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| Happy Hooker War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North of the Peace River, Southwest Florida, USA.
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True confession time... I visit giveaways looking for free stuff. There, I said it... I'll opt-in for a giveaway, cherry-pick what I want, then opt-out. I'm not there to pad someone's pitch letter, I'm there to audition people who may have something worth paying for. And when I'm done, I'm done. The same thing goes for the giveaway products. If you try to dump worthless crap (to me) so you can put me on a list, I'll opt-out so fast you'll have to check the database to know I was ever there. On the other hand, if I do choose your product for download and I see you put some effort into giving value, you've got several more chances to get your message across. |
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| Christmas Rocker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole
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Jay, The thing is, giveaways are not really free. The time you spend signing up, checking out the stuff, downloading it, scanning it (yes, I've found malware a few times) is time you could spend doing something more productive. When I first started out I spent nearly all my time downloading free stuff and calling it work. It's not work - it's a massive millstone around your neck. You need a computer, an internet connection, a plan and a few tools. Putting a couple of hundred ebooks a month on your hard drive is not a plan. I checked out a giveaway recently for the first time in a year and I was depressed and unimpressed. Made me glad it was in my past. Martin |
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My first year in IM (just a couple of years ago), I signed up for a Christmas giveaway or two, not knowing any better. I basically got a bunch of junk, and was put on a bunch of lists. Seems like it took forever to sign up for everything. I've unsubscribed from all but 2-3 of them, and even the ones I stayed on are just OK. These days when I get emails pitching giveaways, I just delete them. I don't even look at what's there most of the time. Jason |
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| Content Writer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fresno, CA
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I joined one of these recently and automatically deleted over half of the stuff I initially downloaded. Half of it was a similar product just regurgitated over and over again. I'm not sure if list building is really valuable from this....why do marketers do it? I know I unsubscribed to a lot of lists after getting hammered with hype-filled e-mails for a week.
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I agree, most giveaway stuff is total cr*p. I would never use my real email address for any of the signups. Taking the risk of getting 50 daily emails to find a single gem? To be honest, it's not even worth the time investment.
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Hudson River Valley, USA.
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The problem with most giveaway events is that they are completely centered around IM themes. That is fine when people really are looking for IM stuff -- but it makes for really poor lists when you're in a niche other than IM. I mean, how many people (in general) attending a giveaway are hot for YOUR niche (if it isn't IM)? Certainly not a listbuilder for non-IM niches. Now if we could manage to get great niche content and THEN do a giveaway in MY niches, you'd have my attention. But that's a lot of work. Sounds like what's happening with giveaways is just throwing stuff against the wall to hope something sticks. Like wishing for customers or something. Am I right? |
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| Rome Saranto War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Idaho
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I am relatively new to the IM world so I am glad this question was raised. I have only seen about 5 of these promotions and yes, most of the stuff I have seen has been bad.
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I've been tempted to contribute to them for list-building but haven't really had something I could call "my own" to contribute, even though lots of people do contribute plr stuff, which didn't seem to be the case with the first ones I signed up for ("31 Days of Christmas", etc.) came out years ago. I just got an email about a new one today and am actually thinking about contributing because it's from an IM'er that I like but your comments are definitely making me think twice!! Tina | |
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