Question about freebie/giveaway

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Hello folks,

I am finally on the verge of plunging into the world of IM, but have a question I am looking to have answered before I get going.

Should I go the PLR route when creating my free giveaway, or should I create something unique? I have heard that creating a unique ebook, special report,etc is ideal as it's generally of higher quality and it will more likely create a better impression with your email list.

Creating something unique would be more time intensive (expensive, if I outsource), but I am interested in making a great first impression with my email list and establishing some trust and authority.

Any feedback regarding this would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
    There isn't really anything wrong with using PLR, provided that the quality is high. You run into trouble when the quality of the PLR is low (which it often is), which is why many people recommend avoiding the use of PLR materials and creating something unique instead.

    You also have the option of using PLR as a foundation but rewriting it in your own words to make it unique and improve the quality.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Jon Patrick View Post

    There isn't really anything wrong with using PLR, provided that the quality is high.
    With apologies, I entirely disagree.

    Originally Posted by ScottBeckstead View Post

    Should I go the PLR route when creating my free giveaway, or should I create something unique?
    Something unique, Scott.

    It matters.

    Building a list of real potential customers, with an 85% open-rate of people who gradually come to respect and trust you, rely on the strength of your recommendations, and buy the things you promote is hard work.

    But not such hard work as trying to convince yourself that "15% open-rates are normal in this industry", after you've given them a PLR/MMR freebie instead of something that set their expectations, secured a high open-rate, branded yourself, established your continuity-process and fulfilled the purpose needed by your business, to make money in future.

    I write a little "free report".

    It doesn't need to be very long.

    But it does need to be specifically designed and created to be part of my continuity-process and to do all these things ...
    • Brand myself and my site
    • Fulfil the promise of offering some information of genuine value which they can't find elsewhere
    • Set my subscribers' expectations
    • Ensure that the subsequent email series gets the maximum possible open-rate and attention
    • Continue the process of establishing credibility and trust already commenced on my site
    • Provide content able to interest and impress subscribers enough to grab their attention and make sure they "stay with me" so that out of all the other lists they're also on (let's not pretend they're not!) mine is the link through which they effectively choose to buy
    In other words, just like almost everything else that determines people's success/failure in internet marketing, it's almost all about quality and relevance.

    And that's why PLR won't do the job, even if I re-write it.

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  • Profile picture of the author timb98133
    As long as it’s quality you should be ok. However many times the quality isn’t very good. One of the things I do is use PLR as a guideline, however I’ll re-write everything in my own words.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      1. What Alexa said.

      2. Even if we posit that you can find a PLR product of suitable quality, ask yourself how you'd react if this wasn't the first time you opted into a list and got the exact same report from a so-called "authority." Odds are, your subscribers will have the same reaction...
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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
        With all due respect to Alexa and John, whose opinions are certainly as valid as mine, their arguments mainly boil down to two things:

        1. A concern about quality (including whether it effectively brands you, whether it sets your readers' expectations, and other ways of referring to quality)

        My take: Some PLR is of excellent quality, and some other PLR can be easily rewritten to be of excellent quality. Some is not and can not. I think I addressed this pretty well in my first post.

        2. A concern about uniqueness

        My take: Most of the people on your list will probably not have read the same PLR elsewhere, particularly (but not exclusively) in niches outside of IM. I don't see this as much of an issue.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve B
          Originally Posted by Jon Patrick View Post

          With all due respect to Alexa and John, whose opinions are certainly as valid as mine . . . Most of the people on your list will probably not have read the same PLR elsewhere

          Jon,

          Those of us that feel we can write intelligently usually decide to do so over re-writing PLR. It does ensure uniqueness and it also gives the subscribers a close-up view of our character, persona or voice - your brand - more so I would say, than reworked PLR. I have attempted both methods and I can tell you that using PLR is not always a big time-saver or even an option in certain niches.

          If your subscribers do see that your writing is modified PLR, their trust won't be what it is with original content. And then there are the search engines, Copyscape, and others that will most likely know that your stuff is PLR even if you rewrite here and there.

          Obviously, if you can't write a lick, maybe paying a writer to rework an already good piece of PLR is the best alternative.

          Good luck,

          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author WillR
            Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

            Jon,

            Those of us that feel we can write intelligently usually decide to do so over re-writing PLR. It does ensure uniqueness and it also gives the subscribers a close-up view of our character, persona or voice - your brand - more so I would say, than reworked PLR. I have attempted both methods and I can tell you that using PLR is not always a big time-saver or even an option in certain niches.

            If your subscribers do see that your writing is modified PLR, their trust won't be what it is with original content. And then there are the search engines, Copyscape, and others that will most likely know that your stuff is PLR even if you rewrite here and there.

            Obviously, if you can't write a lick, maybe paying a writer to rework an already good piece of PLR is the best alternative.

            Good luck,

            Steve
            Steve,

            Let's be serious.

            What are the chances your subscribers are going to know you have re-written a PLR work?

            Slim to none would be my bet. I don't think that is a valid reason against using PLR.

            If the content is good the content is good. If I showed you a Youtube video tomorrow that cured your chronic backpain are you really going to think any less of me because it was not a video I recorded myself? No. All you care about is solving that backpain and you would thank me profusely for sharing the video with you.

            Quality of information speaks for itself.

            There are several resources I share with my new subscribers which are not mine but are written by other marketers. I get a ton of my subscribers replying to those emails thanking me so much for sharing that information with them. Again they understand it was not my own content but they don't care. What they care about is the information and what it will do for them. They don't go and thank the author of the info, they thank me because I was the person who shared it with them.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

              What are the chances your subscribers are going to know you have re-written a PLR work?

              Slim to none would be my bet. I don't think that is a valid reason against using PLR.
              Outside the IM/MMO arena, you are probably right. I raised the concern that I did because I couldn't discern what market we were discussing. Inside the IM arena, I'd say the odds of getting the same report from multiple people go way up, both because of the tendency towards joining beaucoup lists to avoid missing something and because there are so many affiliates without the time, skills, or in some cases, mother wit to provide even PLR and simply use the affiliate swipe provided.

              If there's a big launch in a "hot" area, I'd say the odds favor multiple copies of the same report, or close enough to be cousins...
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve B
              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

              What are the chances your subscribers are going to know you have re-written a PLR work? Slim to none would be my bet. I don't think that is a valid reason against using PLR.
              Will,

              When you're in the IM space, as I am, and many of your subscribers are also members of the same forums and the same marketing email lists, the chances are not "slim to none" as you say. That may be your experience, but it's not mine.

              It's not only the content of the PLR that I'm talking about. If you don't modify the content or even the title or cover graphic, as many people don't do, it is often quite easy to recognize PLR material that you have seen somewhere before.

              If your subscribers know you well, and are used to your style of writing and your "voice" many will know if you present them with something that you have not written. Of course, if your subscribers never hear from you, then obviously they won't have a clue.


              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

              There are several resources I share with my new subscribers which are not mine but are written by other marketers.
              Yes, we all do that. No one is suggesting that everything you present to your subscribers has to be your own or that everything you send out has to be original.

              The best to you,

              Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottBeckstead
    I appreciate everyone's take on this issue. The "correct" method is up for debate and what works for one person, may not work so well for the other. I think the main thing I can draw from the responses (and they are greatly appreciated) is that the content must be A. High quality and B. Highly relevant. No matter which route is taken, these two criteria are essential! Thanks again for all the thoughtful answers.

    Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I also have to disagree with what Alexa said

    I know several sellers (even on this very forum) who put together and sell very high quality PLR materials and reports. I would bet my bottom dollar that a lot of these reports are actually much better and much more valuable than some of the unique reports people have created themselves as freebies.

    So I definitely would not say you shouldn't use PLR material. It's not about whether you use PLR material or not, what really matters is the quality of the end product. You might even choose to use some high quality PLR material and then add your own twist to it.

    Ideally you should be knowledgeable enough on the subject that you can write your own short report or record your own short video. But if for whatever reason you are entering a niche that you are not comfortable with then PLR material can definitely help and should not be ruled out just because it's PLR material. There is definitely a lot of crap PLR material out there but that's kind of like saying all WSO's are crap just because a lot of them are. There's still some gold to be found in PLR material if you look in the right places.

    I never use PLR material myself but that's because I only operate in niches I already understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
    Create high quality content yourself. It costs some time but if you learn to write in a way that people like, you have costumers for life!

    You can start with creating an 500 word article per day (30 min) and a free E-book. Promote the E-book in your articles and tell your viewers that they can get it for free when they give you their email address.

    This way you will build a list of subscribers that is really interested in what you have to say and you can start selling your products .
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    We're not talking about writing the next "war and peace" for goodness sake. Write a 5 - 15 page report solving an immediate problem. If you can't do this yourself, then believe me, your freebie is the least of your worries.

    Personally, I'd much rather sit down to read a 10 page report than a 100 page eBook. I value my time - and as a subscriber on your list, I hope you value my time too
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  • Profile picture of the author teEntrepreneur
    I guess all what matters are: You Inform them, Educate them, and Entertain them.

    Yes, that'd be a great idea man. Creating something unique would be challenging, but fun.

    Getting some else's product and giving away them for free is a good option too, but you may want to have the authority from the product owner to do so. And you may want to select a specific product for your specific niche.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author taxpayment1
    Hey Scott,


    I believe you should deff. create your own E-book. I feel It works much better, and will create more traffic. People will like looking at your own work, that you have dedicated to make happen. Best of Luck my friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hartmann
    I'd try to make it unique, even if it's based on plr. You have to learn this stuff anyway and writing about it is a great way to learn it (apart from doing that is) . Better still do it and then write about it. Like Retsced said, focus on one problem and solve that in a short report format. Take a point from a plr if needs be and expand that into a short report.
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