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Personal Opinion : Solo Ads SUCKS - Let me tell you how I built my List

by shujew95
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First let me clear a misunderstanding before you read my post. According to me, solo ads are very effective but are very over-priced.

To start off, I bought solo ads from about 10 "good" providers in the past. Had some amazing results : over 50% opt-in and more and around 600 subscribers. However I spent around $950 for all those solo ads and when I look back, I can frankly say : That was money well WASTED!

Once more solo ads are good but only if you have spare cash you want to waste. Let me tell you about what I did in the past 7 days.

1) I learnt using Google Keyword Planner
2) I bought a PLR ebook worth under $10
3) I had a guy on Fiverr design me a landing page from $5
4) I used keyword planner to find some profitable keywords

I have now spent about $120 on adwords, have a list of 486 subscribers and have made 9 OTO sales ($10 per copy).

Therefore I only spent $30 to build my list.

I am too selfish and probably not nice enough to tell you what keywords I used. But hey who would give his goldmine away?

But I strongly advise you guys to start learning how to use PPC and google keywords planner. It would save you tons of money, specially if you're just getting started.

Let me give you a piece of advice though : Most gurus tell you to give a bribe and use the words free to build a list. I say no and put it clearly in my ads that I intend to sell something later on to my list so that I get mostly buyer material.

Hope this helps

More Information :
1) Most of my subscribers came from the USA
2) If you're bad at maths, then basically the point of this thread is to show that instead of paying $1000 in solo ads, you can get the same results for $30 if you put a little work in it.
3) I never use a CPC bigger than $0.05. If it goes above that, then I change keyword.

Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

Thanks for the tip. There are guys on Fiverr that would find NICHE KEYWORDS for you. Low competition. Decent search volume. And, most importantly, COMMERCIAL VALUE.
Originally Posted by shujew95 View Post

If they really do have some nice keywords, then why sell it for $5 ?

From my own personal research, I have keywords which can get me around 500-1000 uniques per day at $0.02 cpc specific to weight loss niche
*Feeling like bragging*
If I had to sell those keywords to you, I would never give it to you for $5 ... Hell you'll need atleast $10 000 to get my attention ...

On a more serious note, if you learn to do it by yourself, you will be much more successful and find out that the best keywords are either sold for extreme prices or must be looked up by oneself.
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  • Profile picture of the author BuyExpiredDomains
    Originally Posted by shujew95 View Post


    1) I learnt using Google Keyword Planner
    2) I bought a PLR ebook worth under $10
    3) I had a guy on Fiverr design me a landing page from $5
    4) I used keyword planner to find some profitable keywords
    So did you pay for the copy of the landing page or pay someone else?
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  • Profile picture of the author shujew95
    I paid someone else on fiverr for the copy of the landing page. The one provided with the PLR ebook was not satisfactory. I did use the sales letter provided though.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexnob
    Well, I'm not sure if you can keep seeling your OTO for a long time. However, $120 for 486 leads is pretty awesome! Can I ask you how to make Google accept landing page or squeeze page?
    ( Because I remember adwork no longer (or at least very rough) accept squeeze page/landing page for advertising campaign).
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by alexnob View Post

      Well, I'm not sure if you can keep seeling your OTO for a long time. However, $120 for 486 leads is pretty awesome! Can I ask you how to make Google accept landing page or squeeze page?
      ( Because I remember adwork no longer (or at least very rough) accept squeeze page/landing page for advertising campaign).
      Thanks a lot!
      Well that's true ... I'll have to change the OTO from time to time. It's not $120 it's $30 as I made $90 from OTO sales ...

      I didn't use a landing/squeeze page. I engaged my audience with a very good and lengthy article. Article was on 2 pages. Subscribe option was in sidebar. Then I had a call to action subscribe form at end of article on second page.

      Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Did you not make any money from your OTO on the solo adds?
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by Midas3 Consulting View Post

      Did you not make any money from your OTO on the solo adds?
      I did make some sales but I don't remember the exact amount. It was definitely under 20 though.

      KevinW> I should try that out. Thanks

      Steve Waller> Do so! You won't regret it However I have had no success with fb ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinW
    Agree that PPC > solo ads. You get a better list.

    I do pretty much the same thing you mentioned with Google adwords and Bing ads.

    I take it a little further and create many squeeze pages that match the headline and "message" of the squeeze page with the keywords I'm using.

    Creating pages that match the keywords better leads to a higher conversion rate and better ROI on your adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Waller
    Nice work - that is some terrific cost per lead figure you have there.

    I was thinking of doing something similar and with FB ads too - now I am definitely going to be pursuing the idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole Sakoman
    It's not new that SOLO ads are worn out, and are those leads that presents no value to the owner, that's why he sells them and keeps the buyers!

    That's how it's money earned on something that's impossible to earn

    Of Course, not all are like that.

    I also spent money on Solo ads, which turned to be the worsest money spent in whole journey that is not almost 5 years...

    I spent only $250 (it's only comparing to your $900)

    Nicole
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  • Profile picture of the author m5smiley
    Thank you! Note to self: Learn Keywords! A major flaw of mine is that I have assumed I know what keywords to use with absolutely no research.

    Originally Posted by shujew95 View Post

    First let me clear a misunderstanding before you read my post. According to me, solo ads are very effective but are very over-priced.

    To start off, I bought solo ads from about 10 "good" providers in the past. Had some amazing results : over 50% opt-in and more and around 600 subscribers. However I spent around $950 for all those solo ads and when I look back, I can frankly say : That was money well WASTED!

    Once more solo ads are good but only if you have spare cash you want to waste. Let me tell you about what I did in the past 7 days.

    1) I learnt using Google Keyword Planner
    2) I bought a PLR ebook worth under $10
    3) I had a guy on Fiverr design me a landing page from $5
    4) I used keyword planner to find some profitable keywords

    I have now spent about $120 on adwords, have a list of 486 subscribers and have made 9 OTO sales ($10 per copy).

    Therefore I only spent $30 to build my list.

    I am too selfish and probably not nice enough to tell you what keywords I used. But hey who would give his goldmine away?

    But I strongly advise you guys to start learning how to use PPC and google keywords planner. It would save you tons of money, specially if you're just getting started.

    Let me give you a piece of advice though : Most gurus tell you to give a bribe and use the words free to build a list. I say no and put it clearly in my ads that I intend to sell something later on to my list so that I get mostly buyer material.

    Hope this helps

    More Information :
    1) All my subscribers came from the USA
    2) If you're bad at maths, then basically the point of this thread is to show that instead of paying $1000 in solo ads, you can get the same results for $20 if you put a little work in it.
    3) I never use a CPC bigger than $0.05. If it goes above that, then I change keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author wesawu
    Your cost for 600 subscribers using solo ads is roughly $1.58/subscriber. That is way too high. I believe with testing different solo ad vendors, email swipes, headlines, etc, you should be able to get your cost down to below $0.50/subscriber. Once you find a handful of quality solo ad providers you can build a decent, responsive list relatively quickly. With that said, PPC will also require testing different landing pages, demographics, etc. Depending on your niche, one method may work better than the other. It's all about testing.
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by wesawu View Post

      Your cost for 600 subscribers using solo ads is roughly $1.58/subscriber. That is way too high. I believe with testing different solo ad vendors, email swipes, headlines, etc, you should be able to get your cost down to below $0.50/subscriber. Once you find a handful of quality solo ad providers you can build a decent, responsive list relatively quickly. With that said, PPC will also require testing different landing pages, demographics, etc. Depending on your niche, one method may work better than the other. It's all about testing.
      I do agree but to me, finding a good ppc keyword is much easier and less costly than finding a good solo ad vendor. Some may get lucky and get good vendors on their first try but most of us tend to fail and lose a lot of money.
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by wesawu View Post

      Your cost for 600 subscribers using solo ads is roughly $1.58/subscriber. That is way too high. I believe with testing different solo ad vendors, email swipes, headlines, etc, you should be able to get your cost down to below $0.50/subscriber. Once you find a handful of quality solo ad providers you can build a decent, responsive list relatively quickly. With that said, PPC will also require testing different landing pages, demographics, etc. Depending on your niche, one method may work better than the other. It's all about testing.
      With clicks to solo ads costing between $0.35 yo $0.60 each, I think that would be pretty difficult. I am no expert though. So who knows.

      But thanks OP, great share.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You can make your money back from solo ads with backend marketing. I would ignore the cost to build up a large semi-responsive list. Right pitch to the right people at the right time will still get you sales. Up the prices of your products, offer coaching or "CD/DVD" of the month club, and even seminars to make the money back. Not hard to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You can make your money back from solo ads with backend marketing. I would ignore the cost to build up a large semi-responsive list. Right pitch to the right people at the right time will still get you sales. Up the prices of your products, offer coaching or "CD/DVD" of the month club, and even seminars to make the money back. Not hard to do.
      I do agree with you on a certain level. However I also believe the money that you spend until you get to that point is outrageous. Maybe for some it isn't but most of wf's users come from a lower than average income bracket (according to some online stats I read some weeks ago).

      As stated in my first post, solo ads are indeed excellent but pricey. I could have written a blueprint and sold it as a wso ... Could have made tons of $ but I just wish for the common "poorer" user of wf to realize that he/she can start without all the expenses commonly associated with list building.

      It is also important to consider the ratio of people who have been successful with solo ads and those who haven't. Fact is : the majority of online marketers have wasted tons of money on bad quality solo ads ... That is why I am jproposing a less risky method which can get you to the same if not better result ...
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      • Profile picture of the author clairelynn23
        I hope the original list that you bought with solos isn't really wasted. The right quality product marketed to the list could still make some of your money back. Doesn't hurt to try to market to them.
        I think though, that you have found the right method for you, and you should be able to make it more and more efficient as you continue to test and work it into an even more profitable venture.
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      • Profile picture of the author makie
        I spent about $600 on solo ads and after all the bounces, undeliverables and unsubscribes I have a list of 1100+.

        I made about $200 back on backend sales and now I am slowly starting to see sales from emailing my list.

        I have to say that this is the best $600 I spent on marketing so far. Yes I have no profits so far but seeing that Paypal symbol pop up on my phone after I send an email is really boosting up my confidence.

        I'm not saying having a solo ad list is better then a ppc list, in fact I would like to try another traffic source to build my list. I'm just saying that solo ads do work.
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  • Profile picture of the author xohaibx
    That sounds awesome. I've heard people lose their shirt trying their hand on AdWords. So here are a few questions:

    1) Did you already have experience with AdWords? Or was this your first campaign?
    2) Was your AdWords account brand new?
    3) What was your daily budget?

    Sorry if I sound like a noob, but I've never tried my hand at PPC before.

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author Ricardo Furtado
    I guess SOLO ads are really too costly and not worth the money spent. But then, the same goes for PPC is it not? PPC is only for people who have unlimited dough in their credit or debit cards.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ricardo Furtado
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      No one has unlimited dough on their cards. Everyone has to budget their ads.
      I know a couple of friends who have unlimited credit cards.
      Lucky blokes
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  • Profile picture of the author bloggerd
    Great Advice mate will certainly give this a try like you i built list of 300+ subs using solo ads and the list was trash.. so this will come in handy
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Solo ads are like any other type of paid marketing, you're basically paying for the data when you're first getting started out. If you go in thinking that you're going to get a quick return on your investment you're going to be disappointed. The secret is to stick with one paid strategy (Facebook PPC, Google Adwords,etc) until you master it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Great share. I especially appreciate you explaining the 2-page landing page aspect. I suspect your copy is really good to entice that many people to read to page 2 and then opt in. $.05 clicks on Adwords is a great find. Nicely done.

    I too used solo ads in my non IM niche and it didn't work out as well as I'd like - but I was pretty green back then with email marketing.

    Facebook ads are working great presently. I just send ad traffic to a fangate and redirect to a squeeze page. Works great and is quite profitable getting a like and subscriber at the same time.
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by clairelynn23 View Post

      I hope the original list that you bought with solos isn't really wasted. The right quality product marketed to the list could still make some of your money back. Doesn't hurt to try to market to them.
      I think though, that you have found the right method for you, and you should be able to make it more and more efficient as you continue to test and work it into an even more profitable venture.
      The list wasn't wasted. I did make some money back on it. In fact I still do. Once more I do not discredit the value of solo ads but rather its price.

      Originally Posted by Mustafa Khundmiri View Post

      That sounds awesome. I've heard people lose their shirt trying their hand on AdWords. So here are a few questions:

      1) Did you already have experience with AdWords? Or was this your first campaign?
      2) Was your AdWords account brand new?
      3) What was your daily budget?

      Sorry if I sound like a noob, but I've never tried my hand at PPC before.

      Thanks,
      Mustafa
      1) That was my 2nd campaign. My first campaign sucked. I tried with expensive cpc and ended up spending $100 overnight.
      2) Yes brand new with a coupon
      3) I usually limit myself to $20 a day which is approximately equal to 500-600 clicks per day

      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      You have a list of 9 buyers for 30 dollars. Not bad. Work to increase your conversion rate to 1 or 2 per cent.

      The only reliable way to make money is to make more revenue than your ad costs.

      If you can consistently run ad campaigns at break even or better, you will make a lot of money off your buyer's list on repeat or backend sales.

      It doesn't matter how many people are on your list. It matters how much money you make

      Don't be misled. You are on the right track.
      Thanks. Fortunately, it is very easy to make money off my list.

      Originally Posted by makie View Post

      I spent about $600 on solo ads and after all the bounces, undeliverables and unsubscribes I have a list of 1100+.

      I made about $200 back on backend sales and now I am slowly starting to see sales from emailing my list.

      I have to say that this is the best $600 I spent on marketing so far. Yes I have no profits so far but seeing that Paypal symbol pop up on my phone after I send an email is really boosting up my confidence.

      I'm not saying having a solo ad list is better then a ppc list, in fact I would like to try another traffic source to build my list. I'm just saying that solo ads do work.
      Solo ads do work. Once more i am not discreting its value, just its price. Compare what I spent with what you spent and see the difference ...

      Originally Posted by Ricardo Furtado View Post

      I guess SOLO ads are really too costly and not worth the money spent. But then, the same goes for PPC is it not? PPC is only for people who have unlimited dough in their credit or debit cards.
      That is a myth. I have a $20 per day spending limit and still manage to squeeze at least 500 clicks per day.

      Originally Posted by tyronne78 View Post

      Solo ads are like any other type of paid marketing, you're basically paying for the data when you're first getting started out. If you go in thinking that you're going to get a quick return on your investment you're going to be disappointed. The secret is to stick with one paid strategy (Facebook PPC, Google Adwords,etc) until you master it.
      I agree with you. I had to master adwords before being able to make this kind of quick return.

      Originally Posted by jgant View Post

      Great share. I especially appreciate you explaining the 2-page landing page aspect. I suspect your copy is really good to entice that many people to read to page 2 and then opt in. $.05 clicks on Adwords is a great find. Nicely done.

      I too used solo ads in my non IM niche and it didn't work out as well as I'd like - but I was pretty green back then with email marketing.

      Facebook ads are working great presently. I just send ad traffic to a fangate and redirect to a squeeze page. Works great and is quite profitable getting a like and subscriber at the same time.
      Well i guess not everything works for me. I once tried that. Horrible results. I never manage to get the cpc right for facebook.
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      • Profile picture of the author GameDog
        I have thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread and it has really gave me some good(I hope) ideas. I have not used a solo ad yet, and I often wonder about it. If the list is so good, why would the owners of it spam their subscribers with offers from other people instead of trying to sell them products with it. I mean, this is what we are trying to do buying into a solo ad, to get them to opt in to our list so we can sell them stuff.
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    Good advice for those starting out
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  • Profile picture of the author illiptic
    I have actually never used adwords once.

    Might be a good time to start Great post
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  • Profile picture of the author homebizspot
    Thanks for the post. I have always shy away from google adwords because I think it's way too costly. But after reading your post, I think I will try that right away. Thanks again.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Originally Posted by Art of Marketing View Post

      Its seems like the solo ads as a business is still thriving.

      I think it comes down to convenience really....once people figure out the more you learn and do the more you may get out of it then they experience the real money.

      Art
      Eh, I like solo ads for their convenience and effectiveness. If your funnel is strong enough you can get decent ROI, not just breaking even on your solo buy, but actually make decent $$ from buying solos.

      Your funnel needs to kick ass though, none of this half thought out crap I tend to see when i study the funnels of others.

      It makes me happy that you've found something that works well for you. It just happens that I have tested A LOT of different PPC sources and i personally like the ROI from solo ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author nerdy88
    It is also great if you can get traffic from fivver starting from $5!! You have to make the traffic targeted so you should be ecareful about the text that baits them to your squeeze page!
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      shujew95, I owe you an apology. In another thread, I saw you mention this one and chalked it up to some type of shameless self-promotion.

      I was wrong.

      This is a very valuable post and thread, with a method I've used since my early MLM days. Ran an ad coop for a little while, and blew through a lot of money (my own included) chasing the obvious and overpriced keywords. Once I learned how to find clicks for reasonable cost, I got good results.

      I haven't bought a solo ad in years, so I can't comment from personal experience.

      About all I can add is to keep an eye on the Lifetime Value of your subscribers. Even if you lose a bit on the front end, if the lifetime value exceeds the cost of acquiring a subscriber, the only limit on your income is the amount of suitable traffic you can buy.

      Good job...
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  • Profile picture of the author John Jess
    Soloads (in my opinon) are a great way to "kick-start" your list building efforts.
    Finding good honest sellers is a different story. I too have wasted some cash on buying soloads from the wrong people. But again, it's a learning process that we all must go through in order to come out the other side.
    What i've noticed is some of the more costly solo's aren't always the best. I've found a few good sellers that are at the lower end and the traffic they send is very responsive.

    Like the OP memtioned in one of the posts above, ppc can definatly pay off "IF" you can make it work. Mastering ppc is a skill in itself. I tried using adwords about a year or so ago and got eaten alive. But if you know what you are doing or learn from someone who can teach you, the sky really is the limit.

    Good post
    Shujew, I'll send you a PM shortly
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

      shujew95, I owe you an apology. In another thread, I saw you mention this one and chalked it up to some type of shameless self-promotion.

      I was wrong.

      This is a very valuable post and thread, with a method I've used since my early MLM days. Ran an ad coop for a little while, and blew through a lot of money (my own included) chasing the obvious and overpriced keywords. Once I learned how to find clicks for reasonable cost, I got good results.

      I haven't bought a solo ad in years, so I can't comment from personal experience.

      About all I can add is to keep an eye on the Lifetime Value of your subscribers. Even if you lose a bit on the front end, if the lifetime value exceeds the cost of acquiring a subscriber, the only limit on your income is the amount of suitable traffic you can buy.

      Good job...
      Don't worry about it ... I am just trying to get the word out that there are more cost-efficient method than solo ads.

      Originally Posted by John Jess View Post

      Soloads (in my opinon) are a great way to "kick-start" your list building efforts.
      Finding good honest sellers is a different story. I too have wasted some cash on buying soloads from the wrong people. But again, it's a learning process that we all must go through in order to come out the other side.
      What i've noticed is some of the more costly solo's aren't always the best. I've found a few good sellers that are at the lower end and the traffic they send is very responsive.

      Like the OP memtioned in one of the posts above, ppc can definatly pay off "IF" you can make it work. Mastering ppc is a skill in itself. I tried using adwords about a year or so ago and got eaten alive. But if you know what you are doing or learn from someone who can teach you, the sky really is the limit.

      Good post
      Shujew, I'll send you a PM shortly
      Sure feel free to send me a pm. One warning though : I am not an online guru. The maximum I made from online marketing is about $1-2k monthly. Offline marketing is another story. So i am not sure that I'll be able to help you as you might like but I hope I may be of some help
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Thanks for the tip. There are guys on Fiverr that would find NICHE KEYWORDS for you. Low competition. Decent search volume. And, most importantly, COMMERCIAL VALUE.
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

      Thanks for the tip. There are guys on Fiverr that would find NICHE KEYWORDS for you. Low competition. Decent search volume. And, most importantly, COMMERCIAL VALUE.
      If they really do have some nice keywords, then why sell it for $5 ?

      From my own personal research, I have keywords which can get me around 500-1000 uniques per day at $0.02 cpc specific to weight loss niche
      *Feeling like bragging*
      If I had to sell those keywords to you, I would never give it to you for $5 ... Hell you'll need atleast $10 000 to get my attention ...

      On a more serious note, if you learn to do it by yourself, you will be much more successful and find out that the best keywords are either sold for extreme prices or must be looked up by oneself.
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      • Profile picture of the author getmoneyb
        Originally Posted by shujew95 View Post

        If they really do have some nice keywords, then why sell it for $5 ?

        From my own personal research, I have keywords which can get me around 500-1000 uniques per day at $0.02 cpc specific to weight loss niche
        *Feeling like bragging*
        If I had to sell those keywords to you, I would never give it to you for $5 ... Hell you'll need atleast $10 000 to get my attention ...

        On a more serious note, if you learn to do it by yourself, you will be much more successful and find out that the best keywords are either sold for extreme prices or must be looked up by oneself.
        hey, honestly I have a degree and I am on fiverr. Why you ask? well, because at the end of the day, we all have to eat, wouldn't you agree?
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      • Profile picture of the author writeaway
        Originally Posted by shujew95 View Post

        If they really do have some nice keywords, then why sell it for $5 ?

        From my own personal research, I have keywords which can get me around 500-1000 uniques per day at $0.02 cpc specific to weight loss niche
        *Feeling like bragging*
        If I had to sell those keywords to you, I would never give it to you for $5 ... Hell you'll need atleast $10 000 to get my attention ...

        On a more serious note, if you learn to do it by yourself, you will be much more successful and find out that the best keywords are either sold for extreme prices or must be looked up by oneself.
        I am not sure of their motivations but the numbers do add up. They use Market Samurai. There are several sellers on Fiverr for keyword research. Look for folks with over 200 positive reviews and a top seller ranking so you get top quality.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ricardo Furtado
          Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

          I am not sure of their motivations but the numbers do add up. They use Market Samurai. There are several sellers on Fiverr for keyword research. Look for folks with over 200 positive reviews and a top seller ranking so you get top quality.
          Great stuff. Thank you for sharing this. Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author SaraHendren
    Thanks a bunch! Your info feels so trustworthy!
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  • Profile picture of the author beasty513
    With some PPC and Google Keyword Planner you

    should create results maybe better than the solo.


    In my experience, I did Solo Ads to start and then

    when the list got big enough...


    I started doing adswaps.


    With the Solo's it depends on which vendor you buy from.


    The key with PPC is low competition keyword that still

    realates to your niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oak2
    Thanks for the information.
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  • Profile picture of the author douneedit2
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    I really want to thank you for your post, It's very to the point of how, start uppers can get something done without, breaking the bank...
    And start getting a list..
    Thanks Again
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    • Profile picture of the author LanceThompson
      Scale it, Scale it, Scale it
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  • Profile picture of the author biggerk9
    that's a great share
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Anton
    You are using someone elses knowledge to build your list? Just seems like an unnecessary / lazy risk with a big investment using a PLR to drive all this traffic.

    Do you think your results would be better if you created the offer, start to finish?

    Anyway, kudos to you for pulling this off, and might even be better than doing it yourself since your method is more scalable.
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by Matthew Anton View Post

      You are using someone elses knowledge to build your list? Just seems like an unnecessary / lazy risk with a big investment using a PLR to drive all this traffic.

      Do you think your results would be better if you created the offer, start to finish?

      Anyway, kudos to you for pulling this off, and might even be better than doing it yourself since your method is more scalable.
      I am sure that I would have much better results.

      However I am myself new. I don't have that amount of skills to be able to create my own products right now but I intend to do so in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author cuie
    I didn't quite get it, how does..

    1. being able to lower PPC below $0,10 for IM related keywords

    really differ as a skill from ..

    2. being able to get opt-ins for under $0,50

    Both require skill, experience, trial & error, optmizing, anaytics, etc.

    If you buy bulk solo ads to lower your CPC and optimize your squeeze paage for max. conversions, I´d say you can get similar results.

    The only upside with Search engine advertising is fresh leads, whereas solo ads usually bring in the same crowd if you don't diversify your suppliers..
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    • Profile picture of the author popolvuh76
      Thanks for this thread! I'm completely new to internet marketing and I'm finding this a very good introduction. Very useful information for me here.
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      • Profile picture of the author shujew95
        Originally Posted by popolvuh76 View Post

        Thanks for this thread! I'm completely new to internet marketing and I'm finding this a very good introduction. Very useful information for me here.
        I'm glad that you found it useful
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by cuie View Post

      I didn't quite get it, how does..

      1. being able to lower PPC below $0,10 for IM related keywords

      really differ as a skill from ..

      2. being able to get opt-ins for under $0,50

      Both require skill, experience, trial & error, optmizing, anaytics, etc.

      If you buy bulk solo ads to lower your CPC and optimize your squeeze paage for max. conversions, I´d say you can get similar results.

      The only upside with Search engine advertising is fresh leads, whereas solo ads usually bring in the same crowd if you don't diversify your suppliers..
      I agree with all of those : "skill, experience, trial & error, optmizing, anaytics, etc."

      However,
      doing this with solo ads = Minimum of $50-100 per test
      doing this with ppc = Minimum of $5 per test
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      • Profile picture of the author cuie
        Originally Posted by shujew95 View Post

        I agree with all of those : "skill, experience, trial & error, optmizing, anaytics, etc."

        However,
        doing this with solo ads = Minimum of $50-100 per test
        doing this with ppc = Minimum of $5 per test
        You are absolutely right But I wouldn't call a $5 a test since the sample size is so small and you can buy 50 click solo ads for $20.

        I've spent $100 to PPC with bad results => I don't have the skills. In MY opinion it is easier to get good results with solo ads even though it'll cost more. But that is just my opinion.

        One should always try and test different methods before making any judgments.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottLast
    Great stuff! Just curious - how many OTO's did you have on your squeeze page? Which niche are you in?
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    • Profile picture of the author shujew95
      Originally Posted by ScottLast View Post

      Great stuff! Just curious - how many OTO's did you have on your squeeze page? Which niche are you in?
      Had only one OTO ... And I'm currently in MMO and Weight loss niche

      I even managed to make my method more accurate yesterday. Spent $0.70. Got 50 clicks and 5 opt-ins. I use buyer keywords so the 5 opt-ins are people who are interested in buying not just some random guys
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  • Profile picture of the author Max Anderson
    You are 100% right!

    However I would rather use fb ads than Adwords.

    Google screws marketers whenever they can, so they get no support from me!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mogly
    Interesting -- I need to test out PPC sometime.
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