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10kaday

10 years ago

If you dont mark them as spam you , they will just keep spamming.

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Paul Myers

10 years ago

You should have gotten a first copy with the subject line "[Warriors_only] WSO Top Pick." Send a copy of that email to abuse@clickbank.com, with a note that the spammer's CB affiliate ID is sargon21

If you want to verify this for yourself, go to wheregoes.com and paste in the bit.ly link, or just have them add a + sign to the bit.ly link and paste it into a browser to find the encoded affiliate link.

Clickbank WILL nuke accounts if they get enough legitimate and verifiable complaints.

Remember: Only the one with that subject line. Not the others. Those are part of a technical screwup by the spambag who originated this clusterfrak.

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artflair

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

You should have gotten a first copy with the subject line "[Warriors_only] WSO Top Pick." Send a copy of that email to abuse@clickbank.com, with a note that the spammer's CB affiliate ID is sargon21

If you want to verify this for yourself, go to wheregoes.com and paste in the bit.ly link, or just have them add a + sign to the bit.ly link and paste it into a browser to find the encoded affiliate link.

Clickbank WILL nuke accounts if they get enough legitimate and verifiable complaints.

Remember: Only the one with that subject line. Not the others. Those are part of a technical screwup by the spambag who originated this clusterfrak.

Thanks so much for the tip!
I got around 30 of these emails but I've just deleted them.
Next time I'll follow your advice

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Its Trish

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Send a copy of that email to abuse@clickbank.com, with a note that the spammer's CB affiliate ID is sargon21 ... ... If you want to verify this for yourself, go to wheregoes.com and paste in the bit.ly link, ... ... Cickbank WILL nuke accounts if they get enough legitimate and verifiable complaints.

Hi Paul,

You're assuming that the Sender info isn't forged. And that the owner of the (possibly forged) bitly link and cb username should be banned.

As you know it's common to forge spam with phoney Sender info and links that all belong to a competitor. My advice would be to look at deep email headers and include those in online complaint forms of Spamcop and other spamblock networks. Those systems know how to examine deep email headers & follow ip trails and ignore forged ip's & sender info. (all automated procedures)

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Paul Myers 10 years ago

Trish,

You're assuming that the Sender info isn't forged.

Where did I mention Sender? Or anything else that relates to the hosting company or origination/routing of the emails?

I learned somewhere around 16 years ago just how foolish it is to point a bunch of angry, non-technical people at the headers of random spams. Especially spams that generate spew from secondary systems, as this run did. And, having been the target of more than a few joe jobs over the years, I know better than to act on limited information in a way that can't be reversed.

And that the owner of the (possibly forged) bitly link and cb username should be banned.

Yes, I am assuming the affiliate link actually belongs to the spammer. I have more reasons for that assumption than the presence of the link in this spam.

That said, Clickbank is the judge of whether the affiliate should be banned.

It would be ridiculous to suggest that no-one should ever report spam just because it might be the result of a forgery.

Those systems know how to examine deep email headers & follow ip trails and ignore forged ip's & sender info. (all automated procedures)

So do I, ma'am. Enough for this rather simple task, at least. But, again, I didn't suggest that anyone do anything that required reading headers. Just reporting the link to the operators of the relevant platform.

I believe that was a responsible suggestion.

Paul
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himanuzo

10 years ago

I recently got the same spam from warriors_only @ illuminated.us today. I deleted all spam messages.

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GorillazGoods

10 years ago

Yep I just now got them blasted on my email. Came here just to check if I wasn't the only one. This is what the "spam" button is for.

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Paul Myers 10 years ago

Originally Posted by GorillazGoods

This is what the "spam" button is for.

Normally, yes. With these clowns, that does little good, as they just keep changing hosts and domains. Whackamole, as we used to call it back in the daze.

Reporting them to the affiliate platform works better, as they don't get paid that way. At least with most platforms. Some just don't care. CB will nuke them, though.
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timpears

10 years ago

I just moved a dozen or more email like this to my junk folder a short time ago. All cam in one after another. I couldn't figure out what the hell it was all about. Now I know I was right, junk mail.

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robbieray

10 years ago

looks like they died down now

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jessiem

10 years ago

I was about to make a new thread, thanks for confirming..

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nik0 Banned 10 years ago

I also received about 50-100 of them but it seems a one time blast, just delete them and go on.
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Deeno Zee

10 years ago

Same here, no better either.

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rosetrees

10 years ago

Thanks Paul. Have done as you advised in post #9 above.

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FitMarketer

10 years ago

Yepp also got 40 of these messages EEK

Marked all as spam and sent to email adress as Paul suggested

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laurencewins

10 years ago

Thanks for the tip, Paul. I had already deleted the 50 or so I received before seeing this thread but IF I get more, I will do as suggested. What a joke it is, really. A waste of time for whoever does it.

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SteveSRS

10 years ago

did what Paul suggested.. however how did this asshole get so many warrior email addresses?

Some more info:
gateway15.websitewelcome.com
Received: from gator3157.hostgator.com (gator3157.hostgator.com [50.87.144.190])

So we should also complain with hostgator!
Where Can I Report Abuse and or Spamming? « HostGator.com Support Portal

abuse@clickbank.com doesn't seem to be working:
The following recipient(s) cannot be reached:

'abuse@clickbank.com' on 11/7/2013 16:10
Server error: '451 4.3.0 <abuse@clickbank.com>: Temporary lookup failure'

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soulravager 10 years ago

I got like 35-45 e-mails yesterday, I haven't gotten any in the last 12 hours. I don't even see what this guy is gaining from this lol.
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garyv

10 years ago

Uh OH... It looks like someone actually bought one of those "Make a Bazillion Dollars in 3 Minutes by Pushing This Button" programs and actually pushed the button! - You idiot!!! You were just supposed to repackage it and sell it to others! LOL

But yes I received about 100 emails as well, and this leads me to believe that the problem is either with this forum - or it could very well be a problem at Aweber again. Did anyone here receive the email on an account that has NO ties to aweber?

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Gina Hampton

10 years ago

I am getting these emails as well. Tons of them. It must be through WF that this person has accessed. Putting in tickets and getting responses from the companies in the emails and they too are having troubles and told me the hosting company for this account is through Hostgator. So reporting to them too. Any suggestions other than reporting to supports?

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rohit36

10 years ago

How the heck spammer managed to get so many warriors emails ?

the one I got mail into was my support email that not listed anywhere else other than in WSO thread

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Kingfish85

10 years ago

Originally Posted by rohit36

How the heck spammer managed to get so many warriors emails ?

the one I got mail into was my support email that not listed anywhere else other than in WSO thread

Most likely right here from this very forum.

99% of the SPAM that comes through our company email accounts is related to some spam/junk special offer on seo or how to make thousands of dollars in a day that also traces back to offer threads on Warrior Forum.

No other forum on the internet that we advertise on, post email addresses in posts etc sends as much spam as the users from here. So called "marketing".......

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Paul Myers 10 years ago

Rohit,

Probably bought one of the lists of addresses being pitched all over the net. Anyone can get the software to scrape addresses from any web site, or just go out and buy the scraped lists.

I got a PM on Facebook recently from someone wanting to sell me a list of tens of thousands of Facebook user IDs, claiming they were all either WF members or otherwise identifiable as IMers. Reported him to Facebook and to Fiverr (where he was selling the thing.) The gig is off his Fiverr account, but I suspect he pulled that on his own. Neither Fiverr or FB did anything else.

Reporting spammers, pirates, or list sellers to Facebook is a complete waste of time, as far as I can tell. They've never done anything about any of the ones I've alerted them to, even when it was a blatant sale of pirated software.

I found his WF account and nuked that, but that's not going to stop him. Just force him to operate under fake names and newer accounts.

I have reason to believe this one was, at least partially, the result of mailing to a scraped list. Someone ran a program that downloaded the publicly available pages and pulled the email addresses posted to them.

Kingfish85,

There's a reason for that. Spammers assume that marketers are "live" targets for sales, and it's an inbred little community.

That said, probably 90% of the IM-related spam I get is from 3 or 4 people. The rest is from idiots who buy lists like this and think they're doing something clever.

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rmolina88

10 years ago

I got about 40+ of these in my inbox the other day and instantly marked them as spam.

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yakim1

10 years ago

I was having a little different problem that I had to delete the reply email address I was using in my email messages. I think it is called ghosting.

I was receiving email bounces to my server by the hundreds. A couple of hundred one day and another hundred the next day for my reply email address and this continued until I deleted my email address from my server.

I would receive these bounces even though I did not send out any emails for over a week and the bounces contain a copy of the email copy, which was not mine.

I believe someone was sending out automated emails from a purchased list and used my email address as the from address. This would have gotten my server black listed if I did not delete the email account right away.

I contacted my host support to see if they could tell if the emails where coming from my server and they said they were. I checked all my autoresponders and no emails had been sent.

I believe the host support said yes because they looked at the bounced emails which listed my server.

I've been online since 1996 and this was the first time this has happened to me.

Does anyone have an answer for how this happens and how to prevent this from happening again.

Best regards,
Steve Yakim

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