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75 HOPS WITH NO SALES??????? WHAT IS GOING ON????

by dlinden
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Today I checked my clickbank account and it shows that as of May 22,2009 I received 75 hops with one of my links, but I have no sales!!!!!! Can Anyone please tell me what is going on? Could it be that somebody hacked my link or account and is stealing all of my money? I also average about 30 to 50 hops a day by the way.



Please help!!!!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author kimk
    I have had over 2,000 hops without a sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author dlinden
    Did you ever figure out the problem?
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  • Profile picture of the author InfoAcademy
    Hang in there -- a client has had 480 hops (just in the last 30 days!) even more before that without a sale..... a big part of the problem is where all the links were coming from. I went to find some of the affiliates and most of them were junk directories with no pre-sell, no targeted traffic. They just copied part of the sales page and sent a link.

    The other issue for us is the sales letter. The client wrote it herself, and we need to tweak it.

    Are your hops from affiliates or your traffic?

    I also researched this on other posts in the forum and there was a recommendation to wait for at least 500 hops.

    You might want to list your link and we can give you some feedback. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author JennyBizz
    If you're getting that many hops on one product and no sales, I would consider switching products. Obviously it's not converting well.
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  • Profile picture of the author yaji
    Give a little bit more time, and at the same time researching your quality of traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
      75 hops is not enough to make a decision to keep or drop a product. You may very well make four sales in the next 20 hops. You never know. You need to get at least 500 before you can make any type of decision.

      Some will go with less than that and some will go with more, but there are other factors involved. Is your traffic targeted, are you running PPC (they could just be competitors clicking you adds to see your landing page), whats the gravity on the product.

      There's more, but those are just a few. Get some more hops and then make a decision. If all the products I promoted sold at 1 in 75 I'd be really really rich right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author crystalq
    Seems like poor quality traffic to me or the sales page is not a high converter.
    How are you promoting your links?
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  • Profile picture of the author TashylaB
    Maybe you could try changing your pitch page around to help increase your cvr. If that doesn't work, try a different product or different traffic generation method.
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  • Profile picture of the author yoshiko
    Hi dlinden,

    I don't understand what the fuss is all about. I just had a bad day of 87 hops today without one sale only on a particular niche. but sometimes i get 1 sale out of 20 hops on an average day. It is just one of those FREAKY ClickBank Days!

    Chill out!!
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    • Profile picture of the author webwyn
      The number of hops required for a sale should vary from product to product, from campaign to campaign. The better the product to a well targeted campaign, the less hops generally required. Tweaking and the ebb and flow of IM can effect this number on a daily basis.

      Hence the number of hops vary and one should also be careful of statistics. There is a reason why average, mean and medium can have different meanings in different statistical analysis.
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    someone had this problem a few weeks ago, there's another thread here about it.

    So what they did was test something out.

    they used another ID or something, or created another product listing under a new ID, and boom, sales started to come in on the same product. Go figure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Clifford
    I had this problem, but it turned out to be the source of my traffic. When I went to PPC and articles it sorted itself out and the conversions came through. Obviously the choice of prodcut and quality of sales page could be the root cause.

    Has anyone ever seen any real evidence of accounts being hijacked at Clickbank - I thought that was a myth?
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  • Profile picture of the author KINGOS
    There are many reasons why this can happen. What sort of traffic generation methods are you using? What kind of product are you selling and what is the salesletter like? I think a good look at these can help you ID what the problem is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Platinum Matt
    "75 HOPS WITH NO SALES??????? WHAT IS GOING ON????"

    You're expecting too much and forgetting that "hops" are people... that's what's going on.

    You could send 50,000 russians to a site about catching the minute Alsakan sea turtle and not make a sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author RebeccaL
    I certainly don't trust Clickbank 100%, but 75 hops is not a lot to get worried about.
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  • Profile picture of the author tradermike2008
    75 is meaningless. You can't draw any conclusions good or bad from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dlinden
    Thank you guys... I reading all of your feedback gives me great hope. I send traffic through articles and google rankings. The product that i'm selling is the magic of making up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide Eyed Concepts
      Originally Posted by dlinden View Post

      Thank you guys... I reading all of your feedback gives me great hope. I send traffic through articles and google rankings. The product that i'm selling is the magic of making up.
      That is more than likely your problem right there.

      MOMU is a great product and i've sold quite a few copies, however keep in mind the amount of hops required for a sale statistically for that product has increased overtime due to the increased competition from affiliates.

      It's a hit and miss product for me now where I only make a few sales a month from it and the average for me is roughly 150-200 hops before I see any sales.

      On most products I promote I usually like to throw 100 hops at it before I come to any conclusions about it's selling value. This doesn't have to be standard practice for you, but it seems to work out decent for me in finding worthwhile products to promote!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Dalangin
    I always check first the product I am promoting if it can really give sales. How? If I see the real value of it and if I think it can really boost my sales to the lesson discussed in the said product. If I think it is not converting then I jump to other product because I don't want to lose all my money and effort to the product that will not give me more money.

    BTW, do you think your strategy to get visitor is good? Is it targeted? Do you think the product is really converting that is why you are suspecting that there's something behind all the hops you got?

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