Every 1000 WF posts = $75 a day?

15 years ago

I think spending your time only on this forum leaves you with too narrow a view of the world. It's amazing sometimes how focused the people and products can be on tactics that work great for selling info products to other marketers, but aren't suited for selling tangible products and services to normal people.

You also get a strong sense from the WSOs and threads that the only way to success is to find the right program and squeeze page, then to create ebooks, membership sites and training courses. You'll be drilled in black hat techniques for manipulating search engines such as rewriting articles, "building" backlinks, and swapping social bookmarks. Few threads are devoted to discussion of finding problems non-marketers have and creating products and services that solve them.

That's not to say time spent here is wasted or that no threads are of use. The benefits of being involved with a community of entrepreneurs and marketers can be great, from bouncing ideas off each other to forming partnerships and finding experienced contractors to source work to. And every once in a while, you'll come across someone else's shared great idea that helps improve your business.

Spend time on WF but don't do it to the exclusion of reading other blogs, forums and books on business and marketing. Two I can recommend for starters are "The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It" and "Relevance: Making Stuff That Matters".

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Alfred Shelver 15 years ago

Thanks Dan i will remember that ... its just the hour a day i spend on here i learn so much i am scared with other forums i will start loosing time actually doing real work because this forum is really fun and informative.
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- KenJ 15 years ago
  
  I think that the correlation is not completely valid. But for you as someone who will take action it is probably true.
  
  I have been here less than a year and I am sometimes surprised at the number of posts people have who are not making money. (You can tell from the content of the posts).
  
  There are other people who come here who are already very successful and have decided that for their business the warrior forum is a good resource.
  
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tommygadget

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Grossman

I think spending your time only on this forum leaves you with too narrow a view of the world. It's amazing sometimes how focused the people and products can be on tactics that work great for selling info products to other marketers, but aren't suited for selling tangible products and services to normal people.

You also get a strong sense from the WSOs and threads that the only way to success is to find the right program and squeeze page, then to create ebooks, membership sites and training courses. You'll be drilled in black hat techniques for manipulating search engines such as rewriting articles, "building" backlinks, and swapping social bookmarks. Few threads are devoted to discussion of finding problems non-marketers have and creating products and services that solve them.

That's not to say time spent here is wasted or that no threads are of use. The benefits of being involved with a community of entrepreneurs and marketers can be great, from bouncing ideas off each other to forming partnerships and finding experienced contractors to source work to. And every once in a while, you'll come someone else's shared great idea that helps improve your business.

Spend time on WF but don't do it to the exclusion of reading other blogs, forums and books on business and marketing. Two I can recommend for starters are "The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don't Work and What to Do About It" and "Relevance: Making Stuff That Matters".

I'm curious Dan, which blogs are you a fan of regarding business and marketing? I would be willing to take a look if you are so inclined to post a few links.

TomG.

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Andy Fletcher

15 years ago

Originally Posted by tommygadget

I'm curious Dan, which blogs are you a fan of regarding business and marketing? I would be willing to take a look if you are so inclined to post a few links.

TomG.

Tom is definitely not the only one who'd be interested in such a list.

Cheers,

Andy

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edhan 15 years ago

Bottom line: read and learn. Then ACTION.

In WF, you will be able to participate by sharing and learning. Every knowledge you acquire from others, apply by taking ACTION.

If you are thinking (wishful thinking) of just writing posts up to 1000 posts and hope to magically get $75 a day ... it will remain as a dream.

Writing and sharing with others will help you to further understanding IM. But if you do NOT take any action to experience it then guess you will have to wait with nothing in return.

Get yourself into ACTION and you will learn what works and what does not.
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JasonFinch 15 years ago

Very good point! I agree! I wasted so much money and time trying to find the right program and product.

What I realized is the HUGE thing now is having your own membership site or better becoming an affiliate to one that pays your recurring membership dues.

That what I did and it pays off BIG-TIME. No more wasting my time or energy...

Good luck to ya here
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Andy Fletcher

15 years ago

You don't make money from the Warrior Forum by posting on a schedule. You make money from the Warrior Forum by reading everything you can lay your hands on, asking questions and generally engaging with the community.

Don't expect to get to 1,000 posts by the end of the year and somehow have the magic fairies deliver $75 a day into your bank account. It just doesn't work like that.

Start marketing something. Write articles. Drive some traffic. Build a list. Pay for some ads etc. Learn what this IM game is all about and when you don't understand something come here for answers or when your experiments teach you something cool, come here and share it.

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John Taylor

15 years ago

Andy,

Originally Posted by Andy Fletcher

You don't make money from the Warrior Forum by posting on a schedule. You make money from the Warrior Forum by reading everything you can lay your hands on, asking questions and generally engaging with the community.

While I agree with the sentiment behind your
post, I think it might be slightly misleading to
say "everything you can lay your hands on".

I'd suggest that it's better to choose a specific
business model and then use the forum search
function to read as much as you can about that
business model.

Alternatively, look out for people who demonstrate
an in-depth knowledge of that topic and dig into
their threads and posts.

Starting out in one area, becoming competent, and
then moving into another area is an excellent way
of avoiding information overload.

If you think about any industry, most folks start in
one department and establish themselves before
diversifying their career into more general management
positions.

John

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Andy Fletcher

15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Taylor

Andy,

While I agree with the sentiment behind your
post, I think it might be slightly misleading to
say "everything you can lay your hands on".

I'd suggest that it's better to choose a specific
business model and then use the forum search
function to read as much as you can about that
business model.

Alternatively, look out for people who demonstrate
an in-depth knowledge of that topic and dig into
their threads and posts.

Starting out in one area, becoming competent, and
then moving into another area is an excellent way
of avoiding information overload.

If you think about any industry, most folks start in
one department and establish themselves before
diversifying their career into more general management
positions.

John

Agreed 100%. Maybe I should clarify my post a bit.

It's important to spend a little while (and by that I mean a few days tops) learning the lingo, taking in the landscape and find out what your options are. But after that you need to pick a strategy and focus on it or you'll never get anywhere.

One of the number one reasons for failure I see on this forum is people who have written 3 articles, a chapter of their upcoming ebook, built a list of 4, spent a few bucks on PPC etc etc and wonder why they never see any results.

Compare that to my experience where I did all those things to learn how the systems worked then focused on one thing. I wrote Free Link Cloaker and gave it away to build a list of thousands. Huge difference in results.

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jjpmarketing 15 years ago

While there is value in having a signature link... there is no dollar amount that you can estimate based on total post count. The value will increase with the quality of the posts you make. If you post those garbage, "thanks for the info" kind of posts... then 1000 posts might as well be 10 posts.

Expanding on that, if you start doing a lot of self promoting in the forum it will turn a lot of folks off. You need to contribute value to the forum to receive anything of value in return.

On top of that, if what you are promoting is of little interest to the members of the forum, then 10,000 posts won't make you the first dollar. And if you focus too much on getting your post count up trying to reach a certain dollar per day amount, then you are wasting your time.

There is that saying about putting all your eggs in one basket. Your time would be better spent spreading your marketing efforts in various locations, instead of just focusing on forum marketing. In fact it would probably be better spent using article marketing instead of forum marketing. Or by spending an hour or two a day building backlinks to your website. You could certainly reach $75 a day a lot quicker with 1000 articles, then you could with 1000 posts.

Don't get me wrong, there is money to be made in this forum... but post count has little relevance to how much money you can make on this forum.

Here is an example...

Let's say a programmer comes in and writes a php script that is top of the line. After 100 posts they run a WSO for it. They could make $1000's of dollars from that script... with only 100 posts.

Now let's say someone has been a member for 5 years and has 7500 posts on the forum... but they still don't know anything about marketing or copywriting or any of the basics for that matter. They could run a WSO for whatever and still make a little money but it would likely pale in comparison to what the programmer mentioned above made.

Most times it is more about the offer you are making than it is about the number of posts you have on the forum. If you make a compelling offer, then you will make money. How much will depend on your reputation on the forum as well as the quality of what you are offering.

You could drive a ton of traffic to your offer with a signature link, but if that offer has poor copywriting or isn't what the potential customers are looking for then you will have few conversions on that traffic.

Dennis
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Gary McCaffrey

15 years ago

Posts do not equal dollars.

You might find it more productive to set a goal of not making any more posts until you're making $75 a day!

And there's enough info in this forum already to get you to that goal.

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Alfred Shelver

15 years ago

Maybe i am taking your post to personally but I really think that is Dumb advice Imagine no newbies made posts or asked questions.

Maybe to some that would be the ideal world no stupid Newbie posts but seriously would that not be defeating the point of this forum.

Okay let me ask any WF members who have posted over a 1000 times not averaging at least $75 a day.

Obviously posts dont equal dollars directly but they do represent learning reading experiencing etc and sometimes dollars who on this forum is doing it not for some form of gain

Originally Posted by Gary McCaffrey

Posts do not equal dollars.

You might find it more productive to set a goal of not making any more posts until you're making $75 a day!

And there's enough info in this forum already to get you to that goal.

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Trader54

15 years ago

If its advice your looking for you will find a lot better advice by joining the War Room.

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Alfred Shelver 15 years ago

Thanks Trader54 i actually recieved my first cheque today From Clickbank so that was an awesome milestones and i was definately going to use it to get in to the war room. ( oh and replace some of my adwords spend)

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If its advice your looking for you will find a lot better advice by joining the War Room.
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Alfred Shelver

15 years ago

From some of the responses i do not feel i highligted the point excatly correctly and maybe never explained my self properly.

And i Guess my Title was misleading.

I personally have over the last few months having started in FEB from not knowing IM existed made on average $1000 a month from IM.

So I will and have Taken action.

And only plan on spending an hour a day on WF.

The point i was trying to make was i do not believe a single WF member who has over a 1000 posts on this forum is running at a loss as far as IM is concerned.

And from the little time i have spent on this forum i can see why.

If you read an entire thread before commenting asking a question etc you learn something on most threads no matter how small.

If you do that 3 times a day you hopefully learn 3 things a day.

Even if you learn nothing if you have a completely different day job i.e i am an accountant ,that hour 1 a day those, 3 posts keep you focused if you remain focused for an entire year and ACT of course.

I think indirectly and directly this forum will contribute to your success.

Now maybe because I am a newbie, but i read that little bit more carfully when the big shots with 1000 + posts make a comment, because if you have spent that much time and effort in IM to post to IM forum that many times and are not making money seriously you must be very bored.

So my goal of 1000 posts in a year is a motivation to make it through a year firstly to learn from people on the ground doing what i am trying to do.

So thanks for all your posts i will learn from them and use them....

Originally Posted by nashelver

Hi guys as a newbie i have decided that along with taking action and getting as much knowledge as possible i will spend atleast 1 hour a day on this forum and make atleast 3 posts (hopefully that ad value not for the sake of posting)

Here is my pie in the sky estimate please do not be too critical on it ,its just a fun guesstimated stat

every 1000 WF posts = $75 per day earnings

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WinsonYeung

15 years ago

Yes, by spending more time in the warrior, you will start to learn much more skill from other warriors. And you might also get inspiration from WSO threads as well. This works for me and I did get lots of inspiration from warriorforum.

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