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| The Fabulous One War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas
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Since I'm usually pretty busy writing for others, I've decided to use jet spinner to create articles for my own products. Could someone tell me how unique an article needs to be in order for Google to pick it up? I'm assuming the article should be at least 50% unique. However, when using JetSpinner, I'm only able to get a uniqueness of 20%, and that's after spending over an hour to add synonym replacements for multiple words in each sentence. How could this be? I use DupeCop to check each article's uniqueness Thanks for your help! |
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| Screencaster Yoda War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto
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Hi Christie. I use Power Article Rewriter to create different versions of my articles. I basically rewrite each sentence in 3 different ways, then I further spin those sentences using the synonym replacement feature. When the articles spew out I usually get a unique range between 35% and 50%. That may be low compared to others using the software because some of the lingo I use in poker writing, is absolutely necessary to use without sounding like an idiot - bet, raise, call, pot odds etc. I wouldn't worry too much about the unique percentage of the articles you submit to article directories. I NEVER worry about their content, but if this unique percentage score is too close for your own content, then you should consider the aspect of the page you are placing the article on, not just the article itself. In other words, once you decide where your spun articles are going, you can further differentiate the content by adding a short intro to the article, a re-worked forum post, or a re-worked paragraph from yet another article - thus the PAGE is very unique to Google. There is a free 15 day trial download to PAR. |
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| Screencaster Yoda War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto
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| This is not relevant to what she was asking actually. The rewriting she is talking about is NOT done by computer manipulation, but rather collation, where only original content is re-distributed for each version.
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In my opinion, using a spinner is never going to give you optimal results in terms of human readability and value. With that said, I don't have a problem with people who spin their articles. It's just that I really don't think it is worth it in the long run. I mean, I suppose that "unique" articles created from spinners could serve a purpose when trying to create a content filled website...but what happens when people actually view those articles? Chances are they won't be willing to go any further than the first sentence. So, if all you are trying to do is get them to click on an ad then I guess it would be worth it but if you are trying to provide any value at all then it just won't work. |
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Use on of those ones that you talk like this {Hi|Hey}, those are the best spinners. All you have to do is write one article and you can use it 50 times.
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Christie, I do not use anything that uses all those curly braces and brackets because they are way more difficult to manage properly. Anyways no matter what tool you use you should be putting your human touch on those articles and not rely on some pre-set database of words. It is very simple to re-write a paragraph to read differently. The mistake most people make is they want to replace this word or that word but you should be looking at it more on a paragraph basis. Yes this takes a little skill and it takes time but the end results are well worth it if you do it properly. Example, this is from an article of mine and I am only going to use 1 paragraph here from the article. Paragraph 1 Quote:
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Now just imagine if we took 4 paragraphs from this same article and done the same thing and then spun it 50 times.. We would have an article that is going to hit on average 60% - 80% in uniqueness. This is the reason why I always push the fact that a "Human Spinner" can produce perfect results each and everytime.. No pre-set database, no curly braces with brackets. To answer your question about google some think 30% but I am not sure if there is really a set percentage or not ... When I spin articles I normally try to hit around 60%. James | |||
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| Quote: ![]() Anyway, I didn't mean for my post to spark a debate as to whether or not article spinners are "good or bad". Hopefully this post will end responses to my first post in this thread. What I meant to get across is that relying solely on article spinners in order to produce high quality content that readers will actually enjoy reading isn't the way to do things...in my opinion. I think that the original article should always be hand written by you or outsourced to a writer. With that said, I will not deny that there are many instances where the use of an article spinner can greatly improve your productivity. I think that creating a HIGH QUALITY article without any assistance from spinners is how the original piece should be produced. In my opinion, the best place to publish the original would be on your own website. Now, after creating the original "hand written" article I see no problem with using spinners in order to cut down the time necessary to create "unique" copies of the original. You should still be putting a "human" touch on your spun articles as TheRichJerksNet said he does, but I think that using a spinner in order to create the core of a unique copy is just fine. Again, I am sorry if I seemed to be totally bashing the use of spinners. This wasn't my intention. I definitely see the value in using them when trying to create a footprint around the web for marketing purposes. In fact, I think I'll try to incorporate spinners into my marketing methods from now on in order to increase productivity. In this respect, I thank you for questioning my original post because it really did open my eyes to the potential of spinning articles. If you don't mind me asking, which article spinner have you found to be the best for increasing your productivity? | |
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To answer the original question, though, I usually rewrite each sentence 4 or 5 times. I have to admit that I'm kind of lazy and don't replace synonyms - also I find the synonym replacement can make the articles not sound as good. I never check the uniqueness and doing the 4 or 5 rewrites works OK for me - maybe you are overthinking it? Lee | |
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| The Fabulous One War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas
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Thank you all for your response. Oh, and I didn't mean to stir up a spark. I hope that's all resolved now. First, of all, I do plan to review each article for readability before submitting them to my websites or article directories so there's no need to worry about the quality. To me, an edit here or there is a lot better than rewriting 50 articles in a day. Please help me to understand your concept regarding rewriting each sentence 4-5 times. When I've rewritten the sentence, what will I do with it? Please explain this step-by-step process, or send me a PM so we can discuss one-on-one. Thanks again! |
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My concept is 1000% easier and is fully under your control. But if you insist on using those cheap spinners such as jetspinner then you would be doing something like this ... Let's assume your 5 paragraphs are like this .... Quote:
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My system actually keeps everything looking like the first 5 paragrphs and you can add or edit without messing with those {|} ... I also sent you a PM with a link to a video to show how my system is done .... James | |||
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My advice is to stay away from article spinners and instead outsource your articles to oDesk or Cyberhub.
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"Unique" means... singular and not one of many. Not 20% Not 50% Not 80% If it's "80% unique" article.... to me, that's still "20% re-written" article and therefore, nothing unique about the article. And that 20% should be credited as references. |
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| http://www.contentboss.com - automated article rewriting software gives you unique content at a few CENTS per article!. New - Put text into jetspinner format automatically! http://www.autojetspinner.com PS my PM system is broken. Sorry I can't help anymore. | ||
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Christie - James outlined perfectly what you do with each sentence or paragraph. It is kind of messy and can really make your eyes cross. I'd be interested in seeing James video too! (James - I have poked around on the site in your link a few times but never saw the video) Lee | |
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Hi Marty & Cashcow, Ther is a video on the major tools on the sales page ... View ComposerMode Video View CreationMode Video View SubmissionMode Video View DripFeed Technology Video I thought those was easy to spot ..lol I am not a video composer but they are clear and easy to follow... James |
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make sure to alter the titles, i had better success when i also changed up the titles instead of just the article body
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I would advice you against article spinners because fro me they just a waste of time just take your time and do it yourself, always carry a note book with everywhere you go and jut down those thoughts no matter how small.
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| Your welcome ... The post above just goes to show how little imagination and creativity the poster has.. No offense to the poster but do not give advice about something that you do not fully understand. Read this entire thread and the thread that Mart linked to.. Try a real spinner and use some of the advice posted by people that do understand.. James |
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