Almost given up, just hanging on

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I have almost given up on my website, but my love towards it wont let me leave go!!!

I have worked hard on the website for almost 3 years built up a large 8000+ following on Facebook and 3000 on twitter, its a tourism website but i am just not making money. It is also a well respected site in some circles and i get some good feedback and many emails each day from people asking for tourism advice.

Recently an advisor a so called seo expert told me to take away all the affiliate links as this was damaging my website, when i look at websites that are making money they have affiliate ads on the homepage.

I am tired of having poor advice and this has seriously messed my head up, i dont know what way to turn because i dont know whats right or wrong after so many recommendations from people. what is the correct way and how do i make a success from this.

I have done everything i have learnt over the years, but still not working.

my site is (Moderator Edit) please help if you can and i will work hard on any advice you can give me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    You don't really need affiliate links, if you get enough traffic, charge to have ads placed on your site

    Nice clean site by the way, love it
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  • Profile picture of the author christianS
    This is a beautiful site and with a following of more than 8.000 people on Facebook and a couple of thousand on Twitter, you should be able to drive traffic to your blog and to new posts, right?

    I think you are monetizing with AdSense. Does that work for you? I'd think that your overall traffic is probably too small to really put some cash in your pockets.

    Why don't you consider to offer local hotels, pubs and businesses to sponsor posts on your website?

    1) First you'll create an article
    2) Then you send that to a couple of local businesses. Explain that your Website has X amount of viewers, each post is seen by X people, etc.
    3) Give it to them cheap. At least until you can verify how many people click through to the business and how happy they are with the sponsorship.
    4) Post the story to your website, put the sponsoring business' details up in that post, add some kind of special offer to the post, and then ride it on Facebook, Twitter and your email list for what it's worth.

    You might post a story (walking guide) about a 2-day walk through Glen Fishy and have the sponsor be one of the hotels in Braemer. If the hotel could offer a special deal (discount for the night) for your viewers, that'd be good, too.

    You get my drift. It might work or it might not – no other way to find out than to try. I guess it also depends on your readership. If most of them can't easily come to Scotland for a two day weekend, this kind of sponsored post wouldn't work that well.

    I think this could work, though. Local businesses are not that good in marketing, they like getting more business and will gladly pay if it brings them more customers.
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    • Profile picture of the author gregmuzz
      Sounds like a good idea, its implementing it and charging a price, what do sites usually charge for advertising.

      I had a guy promise me the world and joined me for 50% of any profits made, it lasted 4 weeks before i had to tell him its not working, buts thats a long story.

      I need and want this to work and i think it would if i could increase my traffic more.
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      • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
        If you get a lot of traffic i would consider listing it on buysellads. You could get some good income if you can sell a couple of ad spaces each month.

        Good luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author gregmuzz
          I dont think i get lots fo traffic and i think this maybe the main issue, looking at analytics (google) i probably reach about 3000-4000 a month (unique) however this can be a lot more if i provide more content on my facebook page.

          I am starting to see my main problem is traffic, i dont think this would be enough to attract advertisers. no matter what i do i cant seem to increase the traffic, i would prefer 3000 a day not a month.

          Where am i going wrong, theres loads of good content a great following, but no money coming in. i do have connections with tour affiliates and accomodation, but probebly need the traffic to sell these.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Travel and tourism sites can work great with adsense as hotels are paying top dollars in adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    Not every site makes 10k monthly. If I were you I'd be happy with 500/month from this site and start expanding my portfolio of sites. Some make more, some make less. If you aren't at 500 per month yet, I'd get ranked for a few good keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author gregmuzz
      Originally Posted by Victor Edson View Post

      Not every site makes 10k monthly. If I were you I'd be happy with 500/month from this site and start expanding my portfolio of sites. Some make more, some make less. If you aren't at 500 per month yet, I'd get ranked for a few good keywords.
      I would also be happy with 100 a month, but not making anything at all, i ranked for my keywords (i think) most traffic comes from long tail keywords, if someone could recommend some good keywords i will give it a blast. Thanks for the tips so far, i have tried most in the past but not really getting anywhere, i was on page one for keyword Holiday Scotland till google decided to list loads of hotels on page one? like a directory

      Please carry on helping me i am sure we can work it out, and if you think you can help or would like to join me please PM me
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  • Profile picture of the author Slab
    Something's wrong. With that kind of follower base. You need to SEO some more and post frequently.
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    • Profile picture of the author gregmuzz
      Originally Posted by Slab View Post

      Something's wrong. With that kind of follower base. You need to SEO some more and post frequently.
      I know mate, maybe my seo skills are not as good as i thought, i am self taught mainly from this great forum, i have plenty of links (related ones) maybe my competition is to strong like Visit Scotland the govement led tourism site

      I feel my onsite SEO is all ok, very good in fact,

      Someone SLAP ME!!!! :-) i need to make this work
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Originally Posted by gregmuzz View Post

    It is also a well respected site in some circles and i get some good feedback and many emails each day from people asking for tourism advice.
    That part is what you need to monetize.

    I would recommend...
    • Create a comprehensive tourism guide. Make it unique. Secret locations for this and that....best unadvertised spots...Maybe create an entire package of materials.
    • Invite those people who contact you and all of your followers to scheduled webinars to discuss their interests and questions and create a good hook to get them to want to show up.
    • Sell them your guide/package of materials at the end of it.
    And keep doing that.
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  • Profile picture of the author xverify
    Hi Greg,

    Don't completely give on something you love and have an interest on working on. If you are looking to expand your number of visitors you may have to spend some money or network with other bloggers and have them do a referral link to your page. Or have some bloggers write an article about why people like your page. This could get you some more exposure. Just make sure you are connecting with the right bloggers to do the post. Have you heard of www.payperpost.com? This is a great way to connect with other bloggers who could help you gain exposure.

    Also consider creating an email newsletter that you mail out on a weekly basis. As a rule of thumb you want to retain a current website visitor as much as you want to get new visitors to your site. You could also post some advertisements inside of your email newsletter and try to get some extra income off of that.

    Best of luck with your site!
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    • Profile picture of the author WikiWarrior
      Hey Greg,

      Great work on your website, looks very professional and informative. In fact, looks like one of the Woothemes I use for a blog. Here's some ideas for monetizing your website (I am just about to do something similar with my site):

      1) How about inviting people to submit their best holiday photo/s together with a blurb of what they were doing at the time? This could increase the pages of content you have to offer, increase time on site, display ads like Adsense next to the pictures or picture galleries. Maybe offer a £10 Amazon gift voucher for picture of the month when you have some more revenue coming in.

      2) Invite people to submit videos of them holidaying in Scotland, and upload them to Youtube + embed them on your website.

      With either of the above you could try and get people to give your website a shout out either with a held up sign or vocally in their vid.

      3) Like someone else said, ask some companies to sponsor posts. Trial run sidebar ads that you charge monthly for with a link to their website. With 3-4k visitors every month there's got to be at least 1 local business which will pay you £100/month for the exposure! I bet you could make a long list just from Adwords of the businesses paying £100's a month just to get clicks to their site.

      4) Write a Kindle guide and stick a link to it on your site plus mention it on your Facebook fan page, G+ and to your list. Before that, how about putting some Amazon affiliate links to other tourist guides for Scotland?

      I think your site could be a great earner, and it would only take a handful of businesses to bring in a nice income.

      HTH

      Toby
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