Why it is not always good to Post your Blog here to get advice on it.............

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I know I have done this on several occasions. And to be honest it has gotten me in a position worse off and more confused than ever.

Mine was actually a PM to a handful of esteemed, long time Warrior members.

I appreciated their feed back but I shouldn't have done it .

The Reason?

One said the Theme was nice and slick looking then the other one says the theme sucked and I had to change it.

Another one said to leave a stationary capture box on the right and then another proceeded to tell me I needed one that hovered over the Site.

One loved the domain name the other said he hated it and it was irrelevant and buy a new one and do a redirect to this one.

My advice ?

Visit many successful website/blog owners and see what they are doing and mix some of their features with your own to come up with a unique style all your own.

DO NOT come on here and say 'Look at my blog and tell me what you think'....Bad move imho !

Remember the saying ' One man's trash is another man's treasure '
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    I personally don't believe there's anything wrong with asking for feedback and critiques of your work. To me, it's always a good thing to get some opinions as people will give you thoughts and ideas that you would never come up with on your own.

    The key, however, is to be wise in whom you follow. Feedback isn't dangerous until you act upon it.

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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      I personally don't believe there's anything wrong with asking for feedback and critiques of your work. To me, it's always a good thing to get some opinions as people will give you thoughts and ideas that you would never come up with on your own.

      The key, however, is to be wise in whom you follow. Feedback isn't dangerous until you act upon it.

      Steve

      I hear you Steve. But here is the problem with that (sometimes). You can take 5 highly successful IMers who are very well thought of in the IM community and have completely different take on things.

      Thats exactly what happened in my case. And guess what the end result was ? It made me more 'paralysis by analysis' ......more than ever. It was a hindrance in my work. No help whatsoever.

      IMO (as I said) start out looking at successful people's Sites. Study them, learn about them, see what makes then successful etc....If you have questions about it, if possible, then ask them.

      Maybe Iam being a bit obtuse about this because of this one situation I went through. lol

      Nonetheless,it is something to think about !!


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  • Profile picture of the author xohaibx
    Well, in my opinion, asking for advice is never a bad thing. As long as you know what to take and what to leave, you should be good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by Mustafa Khundmiri View Post

      Well, in my opinion, asking for advice is never a bad thing. As long as you know what to take and what to leave, you should be good.
      I agree, but there's the rub; a lot of people (perhaps most) asking for advice probably don't have a way to distinguish a good suggestion from a bad one, which I think was the main cause of confusion for Discrat.

      I think when one is confused or overwhelmed by the vast array of conflicting advice they are getting, the best advice they can take is to go back a square, and start testing things that are the source of the most confusion; that way you are relying on real data, rather than trying to figure out whose opinion to adopt.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperKC
    I give advice to people all the time.. and month after month they continue to make the same mistakes. I think a revision of what your thinking is in order.. meaning.. people shouldn't ask for advice or feedback until they are ready to act upon that advice.. otherwise it just demoralizes them.
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  • Profile picture of the author samkadya
    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I know I have done this on several occasions. And to be honest it has gotten me in a position worse off and more confused than ever.

    Mine was actually a PM to a handful of esteemed, long time Warrior members.

    I appreciated their feed back but I shouldn't have done it .

    The Reason?

    One said the Theme was nice and slick looking then the other one says the theme sucked and I had to change it.

    Another one said to leave a stationary capture box on the right and then another proceeded to tell me I needed one that hovered over the Site.

    One loved the domain name the other said he hated it and it was irrelevant and buy a new one and do a redirect to this one.

    My advice ?

    Visit many successful website/blog owners and see what they are doing and mix some of their features with your own to come up with a unique style all your own.

    DO NOT come on here and say 'Look at my blog and tell me what you think'....Bad move imho !

    Remember the saying ' One man's trash is another man's treasure '
    we however need the advice of those that have made it in this market if we ar to shorten the learning curve. We can still get gems from the multitude of conflicting opinions. All the best mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author wholesale blogger
    Advice is just that, advice. You will get all that you want here but it is up to you which advice to take because as mentioned, there are many takes on any subject. For example, I read a thread here today in which people argued whether or not you should post to your own blog before Ezine or the other way around.

    You will also find that you begin to take more notice of some posters than others because their advice seems good or fits in with your own way of thinking.

    The skill to have, at least to my mind, is being able to take on board the advice given, or asking for more and then being able to evaluate, add your own and then (right or wrong) run with it. If you are wrong, that's fine as long as you have learned from the experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author ViralMediaBoost
    I wouldn't do that, you can get disheartened sometimes from people criticizing it but its up to you if you can take criticism then do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ankee1991
    You're always going to get conflicting advice when asking on a forum. What works for someone else might not work for you but it might work for the next person who reads it. Take advice with a pinch of salt and give it a test if you deem it worthy, testing is the only way you can know if it works or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    The rule of thumb is don't come here asking for advice if you really don't want it. Too many people post things here asking for opinions and then debate with everyone that gives their honest opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      The rule of thumb is don't come here asking for advice if you really don't want it. Too many people post things here asking for opinions and then debate with everyone that gives their honest opinion.
      Yep. Seems that those people are really seeking validation or confirmation, rather than genuine advice.

      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      You can take 5 highly successful IMers who are very well thought of in the IM community and have completely different take on things.

      Thats exactly what happened in my case. And guess what the end result was ? It made me more 'paralysis by analysis' ......more than ever. It was a hindrance in my work. No help whatsoever.
      Presumably, the advice wasn't just "do this", without giving a reason? If not, you should ask them why they made their suggestions. Not every successful marketer is looking to achieve exactly the same result with any given method or tactic. For example, some might be more interested in short-term traffic, others might have a longer-term view.

      If you try to understand the reasons behind their suggested actions, rather than just follow the instructions parrot-fashion, you'll be able to decide whether to apply them to your particular business.

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  • Profile picture of the author Arthur Burlo
    Asking for advice is a good idea, when you're confident in yourself and know what you are doing. You should analyze feedback and see if it shows you up the situation from a different perspective; following it blindly is not a good strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Some people in the design sub-forum here have had some extremely valuable advice when they've asked for reviews. It's always a good idea to get a 2nd, 3rd, 4th opinion on your new site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      If you ask for advice, you are probably going to get people telling you to do various things and if you don't do them, and in your case you can't because they conflict with each other.

      Perhaps if you just asked what people thought about something and asked for their opinions, you might get some actionable ideas that don't conflict with each other.

      And truth be told, you get a lot of folks here who post with questions and with answers who just want to show they are smart or to up their post count.

      These questions have to be asked in context too, with some background info, in order to get back answers that make sense.
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  • I think nobody would give bad advice intentionally. I think it's because opinions and advice are subjective. What worked for them may not necessarily work for you. And that's why you have to be careful who to ask and take advice from. In most cases, look for successful IMers in the same niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Monroe
    Online environment is filled with diversity - many websites, many designs, too many experts sharing what they think it's right to do.

    As you said, you wanted feedback, not mandatory instructions about what to do with your website. Knowing what others think is essential, but listening to everybody is impossible.

    In the end, it's your call whether you listen to the advice given and start changing your website.

    Oh, and thumbs up for your final argument: "One man's trash is another man's treasure" - so true!
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  • Profile picture of the author djtrillian
    As others have mentioned, the key to getting more focussed and useful feedback is probably in the way you present the situation. For example if you already know a couple things you think might be weak, to word the request targeting those things only.

    Be aware also that there is a mindset that people will get into when something is presented as having a problem. I used to see this scenario in the music business where, if someone plays a demo and they say up front that it's a demo and ask for opinions, people imediately go into 'critic' mode and find things wrong. If someone had just brought in the same exact recording and said "this is the new single on Capitol, going to radio in the next couple weeks, waddaya think". Those same listeners would have a completely different opinion, because rather than being essentially asked to find fault, they would accept it as-is, perceive it differently and with more respect.

    The fact that these esteemed long time warriors had such drastically opposed advice is interesting because it means that either;
    1. Some are completely wrong
    2. They were not all being honest (as in didn't really know the right answer but had to answer anyway)
    3. There's more than one right answer but they were all too opinionated and egotistical to tell you that.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by djtrillian View Post

      As others have mentioned, the key to getting more focussed and useful feedback is probably in the way you present the situation. For example if you already know a couple things you think might be weak, to word the request targeting those things only.

      Be aware also that there is a mindset that people will get into when something is presented as having a problem. I used to see this scenario in the music business where, if someone plays a demo and they say up front that it's a demo and ask for opinions, people imediately go into 'critic' mode and find things wrong. If someone had just brought in the same exact recording and said "this is the new single on Capitol, going to radio in the next couple weeks, waddaya think". Those same listeners would have a completely different opinion, because rather than being essentially asked to find fault, they would accept it as-is, perceive it differently and with more respect.

      The fact that these esteemed long time warriors had such drastically opposed advice is interesting because it means that either;
      1. Some are completely wrong
      2. They were not all being honest (as in didn't really know the right answer but had to answer anyway)
      3. There's more than one right answer but they were all too opinionated and egotistical to tell you that.
      Ding, Ding, Ding. WE have a winner
      And hits it right on the nail.

      You could literally say 'I need a take on what you guys think concerning this piece of Copy. ' And the so called 'critics' would come out in the droves offering their opinions left and right and somewhat exhibiting their egos.

      Then you could take exact same piece of Copy and say to the same people 'what do you guys think about this recent piece by Dan Kennedy ' and they would say it is brilliant!

      Go figure.

      Honestly.....it is about ego ,it is about a flawed perception and ideology that there 'must' be something wrong , it is about not really being true at heart of what you really think and you could go on and on.

      Of course this is NOT the case in every situation because there are real problems that do need to be addressed with constructive criticism in some of them.

      But in a good many there is no need for it. Plain and simple
      (i.e. Allen you have a fantastic Forum here that offers so much and is one of the best forums for IM ever created. No need to fix anything that aint broken
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  • Profile picture of the author Hannah Gardner
    This is a good piece of advice for someone who does not trust his or her instinct or taste.
    As wonderful as a blog can be, it will never be perfect for everybody. People are different and they like different things.
    The idea is to look around and choose your style. Make sure it is what represents you the most. Of course, you may change your mind later on. But do not expect people to appreciate all of it all the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author mgsmith
    Everyone has their own opinion based on their own perception. It is never a bad move to ask what other people think, you'll get a lot of suggestions and those answers that you've gathered can help you decide on what you need to improve, it is always up to you in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Testing should ALWAYS trump opinions!

    Getting advice from experienced marketers only helps you get more ideas on what to TEST. The best marketers don't always do the same thing even on their own sites. They test and use what is working best for each specific website. There are so many variables such as niche, target audience, type of marketing, where traffic is coming from, what you are selling, and so on. There is no one perfect way to always build a website. I would listen the most closely to those who advise you "to try this or that and test the results."
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