by SergR5
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Hello everybody. I have been a lurker off an on since 2006 here. Just getting back into the swing of things and ramping back up. I have been reading up many posts here this last 2 weeks and have gotten so much info. I would like to share some info of my own for (hopefully) everyone's benefit. My background in IM goes back to the mid 1990's and I have done well for myself since then, consistently making money online, in one form or another. I am not a guru by any means and I believe there is always something to learn.

I wanted to share something that might be crystal clear to some, yet very distant to others. Too many times people are beating their brains out trying to come up with the latest and greatest. Meanwhile they are passing up opportunity right in front of them. There are so many ways to use the internet to harvest leads.

Let's take one of my ventures as an example. A few years ago I got involved in the robocall industry. This was a piece of software that you could feed any list of phone numbers, record a message and it would call thousands of people at a time with your message. This was an excellent marketing tool for many different products. People were using this service mostly to promote other MLM programs and Aff programs.

Many people would buy lists (from the robocall company and other vendors) that contained phone numbers of people that were "opportunity seekers". Now the problem with these lists was, you guessed it, everyone else was using them too. These lists had been used up and beaten so many times it was ridiculous. I decided that my best bet was to market this product to the very people who were marketing their own products online. I would market it to them as a sales tool they could use for prospecting in their respective business. I hired some contractors and had them scrub classified sites where these people marketed their businesses. What I ended up with was a list of phone numbers of people who actually could use my product. I fed those numbers into the robocaller and it worked out extremely well. My sales rate was very high and, at a profit of $500 a sale, very lucrative.

My point is this: think differently than everyone else. Think in reverse. If you do what everyone else does, you will get the same results. That could be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing. I have always tended to look around and try to see what other people don't see. Believe me, this is NOT always easy to do. I have made LOTS of mistakes, and I still make mistakes. However, I learned long ago that we learn the best lessons from our mistakes, NOT our successes in life.

In the end, my advice is to follow PROVEN success plans, but always try to think outside the box. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. The simplest ideas are often the best.

I wish you all continued success in whatever you do and let's make 2014 the best year ever!

Serg

PS. I know people are going to ask, so I might as well tell you now. The robocall industry experienced a severe downturn when new legislature further hindered this activity. I enjoyed a good run and when the new legislature came out, I shut it down as I did not want to face the fines and headaches. It's important to know when to fold em!
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  • Profile picture of the author samkadya
    Originally Posted by SergR5 View Post

    Hello everybody. I have been a lurker off an on since 2006 here. Just getting back into the swing of things and ramping back up. I have been reading up many posts here this last 2 weeks and have gotten so much info. I would like to share some info of my own for (hopefully) everyone's benefit. My background in IM goes back to the mid 1990's and I have done well for myself since then, consistently making money online, in one form or another. I am not a guru by any means and I believe there is always something to learn.

    I wanted to share something that might be crystal clear to some, yet very distant to others. Too many times people are beating their brains out trying to come up with the latest and greatest. Meanwhile they are passing up opportunity right in front of them. There are so many ways to use the internet to harvest leads.

    Let's take one of my ventures as an example. A few years ago I got involved in the robocall industry. This was a piece of software that you could feed any list of phone numbers, record a message and it would call thousands of people at a time with your message. This was an excellent marketing tool for many different products. People were using this service mostly to promote other MLM programs and Aff programs.

    Many people would buy lists (from the robocall company and other vendors) that contained phone numbers of people that were "opportunity seekers". Now the problem with these lists was, you guessed it, everyone else was using them too. These lists had been used up and beaten so many times it was ridiculous. I decided that my best bet was to market this product to the very people who were marketing their own products online. I would market it to them as a sales tool they could use for prospecting in their respective business. I hired some contractors and had them scrub classified sites where these people marketed their businesses. What I ended up with was a list of phone numbers of people who actually could use my product. I fed those numbers into the robocaller and it worked out extremely well. My sales rate was very high and, at a profit of $500 a sale, very lucrative.

    My point is this: think differently than everyone else. Think in reverse. If you do what everyone else does, you will get the same results. That could be a good thing, but it can also be a bad thing. I have always tended to look around and try to see what other people don't see. Believe me, this is NOT always easy to do. I have made LOTS of mistakes, and I still make mistakes. However, I learned long ago that we learn the best lessons from our mistakes, NOT our successes in life.

    In the end, my advice is to follow PROVEN success plans, but always try to think outside the box. There is no need to reinvent the wheel. The simplest ideas are often the best.

    I wish you all continued success in whatever you do and let's make 2014 the best year ever!

    Serg

    PS. I know people are going to ask, so I might as well tell you now. The robocall industry experienced a severe downturn when new legislature further hindered this activity. I enjoyed a good run and when the new legislature came out, I shut it down as I did not want to face the fines and headaches. It's important to know when to fold em!
    Thanks for your advice. So many are the lost opportunities that we all have missed over the years. We need to learn from those mistakes as we go forward
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Corden
    The best opportunity is the opportunity you take. To many people waste opportunities by waiting for the right one. How can you possibly know. Thinking different is great advice though. Not always easy. But generally quite powerful.

    I've recently had a change of direction which was in part spurred on by coming at the same problem but form a different angle. Rather than be a single affiliate driving traffic to many, I have created a product and I will get the many to drive traffic to me.

    Same problem - reversed.

    It works.

    Thanks for you post. If you have any interest in my project (not so much the product more the change of direction) then come and say hello in my personal blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author meepo
    With profitability of $500 per sale AND a high sales rate... I would think there's still some room for manual dialing... yes?

    Are you still running this? There's still money here, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    Great stuff, don't wait so long for the nrxt post.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Good post. Yes there are too many people doing the same thing. That makes it harder for all your efforts to pay off in a saturated market.

    They are all doing the same things because too many of them take years to 'act'. Trying to get the ducks in line so that they don't make mistakes.

    That is the biggest mistake.
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    • Profile picture of the author SergR5
      Originally Posted by meepo View Post

      With profitability of $500 per sale AND a high sales rate... I would think there's still some room for manual dialing... yes?

      Are you still running this? There's still money here, right?
      Keep in mind that this software could dial 10,000 people in a matter of minutes. You want to try this manually?? It would be a colossal waste of time, IMHO.

      Originally Posted by Victor Edson View Post

      Great stuff, don't wait so long for the next post.
      Thanks, and I will try and contribute more often.
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      • Profile picture of the author meepo
        Originally Posted by SergR5 View Post

        Keep in mind that this software could dial 10,000 people in a matter of minutes. You want to try this manually?? It would be a colossal waste of time, IMHO.
        Ok just curious - thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author JDBOTX5
          This are the kind of reads that keeps me going. I do also believe of thinking differently and not to follow but lead.

          Thanks
          JD
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  • Profile picture of the author John J M
    Awesome. I love the concept of thinking in reverse as well.

    ...Not just in the sense of thinking outside the box, but also to literally think backwards. Think about the end result you want to get or see others getting that you want to copy. But only copy the end result. Then work backwards to figure out how you could get there faster, better, and with more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    I completely agree, it wasn't until I started putting a slight "spin" on my strategies that I started seeing success.

    It isn't hard, just takes some thinking and creativity.
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    Cool story but that's not thinking in reverse lol
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  • Profile picture of the author dengkane
    Great reading, thanks for your sharing.

    Your post let me think about how to find laser targeted leads, and then market to them, instead of marketing to general people.
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