Wouln't this hold for Article Spinners too?

[BillOliver]

Article spinners I know little about,
BUT I do know that the BEST LANGUAGE TRANSLATION method by far is NOT a choice between "human" vs "machine", rather, MAHT - Machine Aided Human Translation - is far superior. You get human quality with speed.

Although I've never even SEEN a spinner, my intuitive way to use one would be:
STEP 1: SPIN! SPIN! SPIN!
STEP 2: Use Word spelling, grammar and possibly style checkers on the spun articles.

What do the experts think?

[Nigel Greaves]

Hi Bill,

You like to watch this neat video by Marty S in the thread here:

Power Article Rewriter and MyArticleNewtwork - Video

Nigel

[Paid Surveys]

Article spinning software never works unless you like junk content. You can't beat human content.

[milan]

It's amazing how many people think that!

Here is my video:

Busting the Myth:
"All Article Spinners Produce Garbage"?!

"All Article Spinners Produce Garbage"?!

Originally Posted by Paid Surveys

Article spinning software never works unless you like junk content. You can't beat human content.

[BillOliver]

Hmmm, it seems my gut feeling is confirmed.
These el cheapo, 'press 1 button' spinners create ROFL text!

The GOOD ones take human input.

BUT - what I find of interest is that with translators, it's machine first, then human.
With spinners, the human input is up front.

Bill

[milan]

Originally Posted by BillOliver

The GOOD ones take human input.

That pretty much sums it up. Computers are not intelligent, and human language is very intelligence related. That's the point. Computers cannot think. There are certain developments in that area (artificial intelligence) but it's not anywhere near real intelligence and thinking.

If you don't realize computers are just machines, you're in trouble. Use computers as a tool.

[DynamicRevelation]

From my experience, any article spinner I've owned required human editing. The results are just difficult to follow. Some synonyms just aren't interchangeable.

You want your articles to flow nicely and keep the reader's interest, so maybe... just maybe... they'll follow that link of yours. If it doesn't read well, you lose that possibility altogether.

What I have found, though, is that a research or "content-finding" program that will help you organize and edit content is ideal (like IAW). It might not be "one-click-easy" and sure, it takes some time & effort- but the result is more worthwhile.

Another trick I've used in my research is with the software that finds blogs to comment on. I search them out, sort the good information from the "crap," take notes (gotta love clipboard), reorganize it, and make it make sense. Then, check it out with copyscape, just to make sure. That's maybe a 20-minute task for me.

I've never had a problem with duplicate content.

It beats the heck out of staring vacantly at a blank white box.

[TheRichJerksNet]

Not "another" spinners good / bad thread ... When will people understand that properly used tools will produce proper content ??? A spinner is just a tool, nothing more than a tool.. Used properly it can net you a huge advantage and massive boost in your business.

There are several human controlled spinners that work perfectly fine and you can not tell the difference between the original and the spun version because it is fully controlled by the writer.

Now I could be like someone else here and post links to my site and self promote against the rules but I wont.. Facts are a properly used spinner works wonders and when you as the writer fully control the output you do not need to check any spun articles.

Examples:
How To Create Unique Articles With Article Spinner?

Article Spinning - is it a killer tactic or a waste of time?

James

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by Paid Surveys

Article spinning software never works unless you like junk content.

Who told you this false statement ??

Please do not make post based on facts that are not facts at all .. Unless you have tried every article spinner on the market, you can not make such a statement and you sure can not state it as fact..

Did you ever think that article spinning does involve human content ???

James

[Jay Ang]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Not "another" spinners good / bad thread ... When will people understand that properly used tools will produce proper content ??? A spinner is just a tool, nothing more than a tool.. Used properly it can net you a huge advantage and massive boost in your business.

There are several human controlled spinners that work perfectly fine and you can not tell the difference between the original and the spun version because it is fully controlled by the writer.

Now I could be like someone else here and post links to my site and self promote against the rules but I wont.. Facts are a properly used spinner works wonders and when you as the writer fully control the output you do not need to check any spun articles.

Examples:
How To Create Unique Articles With Article Spinner?

Article Spinning - is it a killer tactic or a waste of time?

James

Yes , this topic has been popping up far too frequently ... totally agree with you James , Spinners are nothing but a tool ... it still requires proper human control to produce desired results. If you were just to use synonyms and suggested phrases by the tool without taking note of the output , u would obviously get rubbish results

[Jon Alexander]

garbage in, garbage out. It's that simple.

[milan]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Now I could be like someone else here and post links to my site and self promote against the rules but I wont.

Nobody in this thread did that. You keep misinterpreting why you got banned, and you keep misinterpreting the forum rules...

[TheRichJerksNet]

Originally Posted by milan

Nobody in this thread did that. You keep misinterpreting why you got banned, and you keep misinterpreting the forum rules...

I am doing no such thing.. I have a brain, I can see and I can read. Please do not insult my intelligence.

It is kinda funny I mention no names but yet you felt the need to defend yourself by answering a post I made.

James

[BigRedNotebook]

Milan,

With all due respect, your video actually makes a very strong case AGAINST spinning. While watching it, a few GLARING errors jumped out at me immediately.

I took another look, pausing the video occasionally to read the spun text. Yikes!

"During a recession the amount of private lenders, banks and even states often decrease their loan programs for students and in some cases even eliminates them." --Awkward, bad word choice ("amount") and subject/verb disagreement.

"Nobody could tell you for sure how long the US will last." and "Everyone is unsure how long the US will last." --Something tells me this isn't what you meant to say...

"This can be very frustrating and disheartening for students but that’s how the things are." Unnecessary inclusion of "the".

And those were just three random pauses. Within those, there were multiple examples of poor word choices, questionable punctuation, and general awkwardness. In one case, the spun article came up with a sentence to conclude a paragraph that completely undermined the article (and that was wholly inconsistent with the concluding sentence on other spun versions).

Overall, the articles look amateurish to me and don't inspire any confidence in the author or what he/she might be selling.

If your goal is to spit these out to create gobs and gobs of backlinks without any real interest in the quality or persuasiveness of the text, I suppose that's fine. I wouldn't personally want my site attached to content of that caliber, but I can envision circumstances where it might not be a disaster.

To argue that the spun versions represent quality content, however, is a stretch. Of course, we might have different notions of quality. Maybe I'm setting the bar too high, but I wouldn't consider this anywhere close to the point of acceptability.

The weaknesses in the spun articles may stem from flaws in the original article, but that only goes to show that imperfections can be amplified via spinning.