Pre-made "Turnkey" websites

[abomb55076]

Hey, I was woundering if anyones ever purchased a pre-made turnkey website and if so, can you actually start making money off of them from the beginning or do they not work?

[adam123]

Not only the websites matter, the bigger part is how to promote the websites.
And yes if you drive targeted visitors, you will be fine and make $$

All the best,
Adam

[cashcow]

You have to promote them in order to get traffic and make money just like any other website.

If you purchase ones that are already earning, then you will be making money right away. Got to be careful with these though and do your due diligence to make sure you don't get ripped off.

Lee

[John Pawlett]

If it's a turnkey website then you need to know how many are been sold/given away, ever heard of duplicate content?

John

[CashTactics]

Yeah I have several. The key is to drive traffic to it. Some of them are garbage though. You have to look at the demand for the product/ service it provides and then gauge how easily you think you can get traffic to it.

If you have more questions about them please don't hesitate to send me a PM on here.

[Andy LaPointe]

I have purchases turn-key sites in the past and here is what has worked for me:

- Upload the turnkey sites on parked domains that are earning no or low adsense revenue. This has worked best for the direct navigation domains in my portfolio

- Changed some of the sale page to avoid duplicate content and promoted with articles and adwords

- Tested new niches. Some have paid off and some haven't

Thanks,

Andy

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by John Pawlett

If it's a turnkey website then you need to know how many are been sold/given away, ever heard of duplicate content?

John

Duplicate content refers to the same content (or very similar) on the SAME SITE. This does not refer to content on other domains.

However, it is possible to get turnkey sites with unique content.

HTH

Glenn

Below are 2 sites for you to look at for turnkey websites - I warn you though they are sold 1,000's of times over by many resellers...

DotComBuilder Turnkey Websites: Turnkey Websites Templates Business Opportunities

Prozilla :: Powerseller Resources, Turnkey Websites, Online website builder

Can you make money with turnkey sites ? Well it's just like any other website, you must advertise the site and offer to your visitors what they are looking for..

James

[Samantha_Price]

If you get turnkey sites that are attached to domain names and promoted, then you can make money the first day...if not, you will need to promote the site yourself to get results.

[Bakai]

My experience with premade sites has not been good. Adwords awlways gave them a poor QS (quality score). Better to make your own sites.

[The Leader]

I've seen a few very basic turnkey websites that seem quite presentable but lack in the ability to improve you seo because things like titles are the same of everypage.
I'd get a decent program to build your own website if you are serious!

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by John Pawlett

ever heard of duplicate content?

You mean like this?

You say they taught you how to read and write
Yeah, they taught you how to count
I say they taught you how to buy and sell
Your own body by the pound

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

You mean like this?

You say they taught you how to read and write
Yeah, they taught you how to count
I say they taught you how to buy and sell
Your own body by the pound

BgMacaw,
Don't you just love how people throw around that myth about duplicate content... lol

I guess some will never learn no matter how much you try to teach them..

James

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

BgMacaw,
Don't you just love how people throw around that myth about duplicate content... lol

I guess some will never learn no matter how much you try to teach them..

James

This question has been asked for years, I just give up giving a detailed response now.. falls on deaf ears.

Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

This question has been asked for years, I just give up giving a detailed response now.. falls on deaf ears.

Yeah I know Glenn... It just amazes me how people still think this crap exist... Hey everyone I have duplicate articles posted on the same domain and guess what ??? They dominate google's front page ..lol

James

[dt.focus]

I guess the duplicate content issue is a little off-subject from the original post, but I am highly interested in gaining some clarity on the issue. My ears are wide open, so if someone could point in the best direction, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks so much!
Derek

Originally Posted by dt.focus

I guess the duplicate content issue is a little off-subject from the original post, but I am highly interested in gaining some clarity on the issue. My ears are wide open, so if someone could point in the best direction, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks so much!
Derek

No such thing as dup content.. Especially talking about turnkey websites, turnkey websites are just a base or core script that allows you to quickly build a site based on a certain type of site. The content on these sites are controlled bythe person that owns them.

The dup content post above is a grossly mis-informed user on what turnkey websites are.

James

[dt.focus]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

No such thing as dup content.. Especially talking about turnkey websites, turnkey websites are just a base or core script that allows you to quickly build a site based on a certain type of site. The content on these sites are controlled bythe person that owns them.

The dup content post above is a grossly mis-informed user on what turnkey websites are.

James

That makes sense.

I assume this is also true of things such as PLR articles and the like? No "SEO penalty" or anything?

Thanks,
Derek

Originally Posted by dt.focus

That makes sense.

I assume this is also true of things such as PLR articles and the like? No "SEO penalty" or anything?

Thanks,
Derek

Dup content is a myth ... I have the same exact article posted on the same exact domain twice and it sure dont hurt me.. I have several articles like this on one of my own domains.

With that said now.. If you build 4 or 5 pages with the exact content on the same domain then it will be seen as you trying to game the system and google may not like it...

James

[dt.focus]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Dup content is a myth ... I have the same exact article posted on the same exact domain twice and it sure dont hurt me.. I have several articles like this on one of my own domains.

With that said now.. If you build 4 or 5 pages with the exact content on the same domain then it will be seen as you trying to game the system and google may not like it...

James

Thanks for the help.

The reason I asked is I have a small collection of really well written PLR articles related to my niche. I haven't really done much with them for fear of some dup content penalty. These articles have not been widely distributed as far as I can tell, so now I have a little more incentive to put them to good use. I would re-purpose them every once in a while, but I almost prefer to just write my own before spinning someone else's. Now it looks like my life could potentially get a little easier.

Thanks,
Derek

[turnkeybiz]

We have made a GREAT living selling and using turnkey sites, we were one of the 1st ones selling them or as we call it today flipping sites.

Here are some tips to live by:

1. No if you build it they will not come. lol you must market these sites just like any other.

2. They are a nice head start or what I suggest to some of my clients a cheap way of testing a niche to see if it can work. Set one up, drive some traffic make a few bucks, expand into the market with larger site.

3. Add it to an already existing site. depending on the type of turnkey site you get, it might be a nice way to add another revenue source

4. Some turnkey sites can be used just to drive traffic to your site and grow around that. IE a joke site, a search engine

5. ENSURE you grow your turnkey site, it is only a small start to a business that you must build and continue building

6. SET UP A LOT OF THEM. 10 bucks a week/month from one simple turnkey site times 50 sites is a nice little extra income and a great way to taste success and allow you to grow. at the very lease it will pay your car payment :-) or heck keep the beer flowing lol

ok my fingers hurt from typing, lol.....yes they do work and yes you have to work a little on them, but not as much as if you start your own site.

My Suggestion is start with a Turnkey Wordpress site, we are converting out stock to CMS turnkey sites because they are easier for newbie clients to manage, then use the stock HTML turnkey sites as back end or content fillers to help drive traffic.

Good luck with what ever you do

Regard Auggie (Turnkey Biz Geek)

[Ross Dalangin]

Originally Posted by John Pawlett

If it's a turnkey website then you need to know how many are been sold/given away, ever heard of duplicate content?

John

MOST turnkey websites deal with duplicate issues but NOT all.

Ross

[dt.focus]

Originally Posted by Ross Dalangin

MOST turnkey websites deal with duplicate issues but NOT all.

Ross

In light of what James a.k.a TheRichJerksNet said above (who seems to disagree with your above statement) can you please clarify. Why do you say this is an issue?

Thanks,
Derek

[RevenueGal]

Basically, turnkey websites become "turkey" websites when you do nothing with them... they simply gobble up the money you spent on them. Marketing is always essential with any site you're trying to make money with.

However, as easy as it is to set up a simple wordpress blog these days, there's no reason you can't create some "unique" sites on your own. Using some plr articles can help with the content and there's tons of free wordpress themes available in practically any niche.

Originally Posted by Ross Dalangin

MOST turnkey websites deal with duplicate issues but NOT all.

Ross

Sorry Ross I will have to disagree with that because the site although trunkey is only the coding, the backend and nothing more.. The content of that site is controlled by the admin/user/owner...

There are many different kinds of turnkey websites that deal with many different industries. 2 Links I posted above are only a small example. Each site can be fully customized and again the content is upto the person running the site.

Dup content is not an issue here at all.. I can take a turnkey exit exchange and install it 10 times and each one be 100% unique....

I do not deal with turnkey websites anymore but I used to edit a great deal of them for a company that paid me monthly to do so...

James

[xlfutur1]

Why purchase a turn-key website when you can build them with Wordpress so easily?

The trick to any site is the promotion and building backlinks to get traffic and get them ranked for specific keywords. You could have the greatest looking site in the world, in the greatest niche ever, but if no one ever sees it, it really doesn't matter.

[TheRookie]

What exactly is the definition of a turn key website. All content is already uploaded and traffic to it or just a finished theme

[techuse]

Originally Posted by abomb55076

Hey, I was woundering if anyones ever purchased a pre-made turnkey website and if so, can you actually start making money off of them from the beginning or do they not work?

Well, it depends on what sites are you buying, traffic details, keywords. So there are a handful things to lookout before you buy a site.

[Ross Dalangin]

Originally Posted by dt.focus

In light of what James a.k.a TheRichJerksNet said above (who seems to disagree with your above statement) can you please clarify. Why do you say this is an issue?

Thanks,
Derek

When dealing a duplicate content, most duplicates are not displayed in the search results.
There's no such things as duplicate content penalty but they avoid it. If you have an article, post it first on your site then submitting it to article directories is ok but copying content from other site and display it in our site is different story. Let them copy your content but don't copy the whole content. If it is an affiliate product, giving good content in your site couldn't affect much your ranking even you add duplicate content unless your intention is to manipulate the search results.

Ross

[prosperpreneur]

If the turnkey web site has all the elements and psychological triggers to persuade the visitor and make them take action on the offer then it will work.

However it is very hard to find in the ready made web sites, however recently I saw a package floating around the internet which is designed by professional marketers for their clients and customers.

If you can get hold of these sites , that may work well.

Let me know if u r interested, I will pass those info to you.

hope thi shelps.

-Gaj

[Ross Dalangin]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Sorry Ross I will have to disagree with that because the site although trunkey is only the coding, the backend and nothing more.. The content of that site is controlled by the admin/user/owner...

There are many different kinds of turnkey websites that deal with many different industries. 2 Links I posted above are only a small example. Each site can be fully customized and again the content is upto the person running the site.

Dup content is not an issue here at all.. I can take a turnkey exit exchange and install it 10 times and each one be 100% unique....

I do not deal with turnkey websites anymore but I used to edit a great deal of them for a company that paid me monthly to do so...

James

Hi James,

It's alright. There are so many turnkey sites that can't be modified too much and most are just static pages. As I've said not all deal with duplicate issues but most are since it is turnkey, most buyers of those turnkey only upload and gives traffic on it and don't have time or don't know how to modify the templates or add new contents.

Also they maximize the use of the turnkey sites so most them will upload it to different domains and most of the times with the same server multiple times.

There's no issue to the turnkey sites that can be modified and to the buyers that can modify the turnkey sites. The issue would be the turnkey sites that can't be modified and add new content. Imagine having millions buyers of these kinds of sites and all are the same. What would you think will happen on the search results?

I would agree on most of what you are saying but as a seller I am looking at the value to the buyers. Do you agree that not all people who buy a website knows HTML, modify PHP and follow instructions or even read instructions?

Ross

[jacoby2005]

Gaj I would likr to see info. might be a quick way to get running and gain some experience lord knows I need it lol. PM me pls.

thx;
Brian

Originally Posted by Ross Dalangin

Hi James,

It's alright. There are so many turnkey sites that can't be modified too much and most are just static pages. As I've said not all deal with duplicate issues but most are since it is turnkey, most buyers of those turnkey only upload and gives traffic on it and don't have time or don't know how to modify the templates or add new contents.

Also they maximize the use of the turnkey sites so most them will upload it to different domains and most of the times with the same server multiple times.

There's no issue to the turnkey sites that can be modified and to the buyers that can modify the turnkey sites. The issue would be the turnkey sites that can't be modified and add new content. Imagine having millions buyers of these kinds of sites and all are the same. What would you think will happen on the search results?

I would agree on most of what you are saying but as a seller I am looking at the value to the buyers. Do you agree that not all people who buy a website knows HTML, modify PHP and follow instructions or even read instructions?

Ross

Hi Ross,
I can understand where you are coming from, why someone would buy a site that they can not change the content is beyond me. I would agree though that many do not read instructions, lord know I dealt with enough clients to know that eventhough I provide them step by step instructions with pictures ...

This is also true when people buy sites and many times the sales copy is very misleading to some of those people making them think they can just plug-n-play... Which 70% of the time is not the case.

Personally myself I dislike "turnkey sites" I prefer to build everything from scratch myself. Only reason why I worked on turnkey sites before is because I was paid $1,500 a month to customize the sites (php, ajax, structure changes, design changes and etc).

One problem I see with some of these so-called turnkey sites that some promote in IM is the fact they lack the ability of CMS controls for.

* Terms Of Service
* Privacy Policy
* Website Faq's
* Support form / Help Pages
* Disclaimers

What many do not realize is those are counted as "content" pages.... Not to mention they help your visitors / customers

James

[Colin Evans]

I have made money from every website I have uploaded - the ones which don't make any money are those still on my computer...

As for the duplicate conent issue - read this:Duplicate Content Penalty vs. Duplicate Content Filters - The Truth Revealed

[Tyrus Antas]

If your website is a commodity why should I stick around in your website over thousands of other similar websites? Unless you radically change the turnkey website, it's unlikely that it will ever make much money.

But if you radically change it, then why get a turnkey website?

Tyrus

[mrjasonser]

Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas

If your website is a commodity why should I stick around in your website over thousands of other similar websites? Unless you radically change the turnkey website, it's unlikely that it will ever make much money.

But if you radically change it, then why get a turnkey website?

Tyrus

I agreed.

I tried several turnkey websites before, but somehow,
it did not work well.

And somewhere along the promotion, that's this feeling
inside me that how I wish it can be a bit more uniqueness
of myself. And off I goes to do more customization either
on the graphic or content which ended up like what Tyrus
said.


I guess "Uniqueness" especially in content is the real
"turn Key" for any online biz.

Cheers
Jason Ser

[cashcow]

If your website is a commodity why should I stick around in your website over thousands of other similar websites? Unless you radically change the turnkey website, it's unlikely that it will ever make much money.

But if you radically change it, then why get a turnkey website?

I hear what you are saying, but I think that most people who buy turnkey websites are not willing to put the work into them to get them ranking in the SE'S.

Just because there are other sites out there that look like yours does not mean that everyone searching on that topic has seen them. Most of them are sitting on page 100 so if the OP bought one and marketed it properly then I think he would be OK.

Having said that, of course, you need something compelling to keep the visitor coming back or get him to sign up for your list or buy something. So, when buying a turnkey site, you need to take that into consideration.

BTW - Even buying (or creating) a unique website is no guarantee that you will make money. You still have to market it no matter how unique it is.

Lee

[Colin Evans]

Originally Posted by cashcow

BTW - Even buying (or creating) a unique website is no guarantee that you will make money. You still have to market it no matter how unique it is.

Hi Lee,

I wish more people would wake up and realize that...

[Raymond Grey]

Dup Content was an "idea" created by marketers to create demand for article "spinners" / article "rewriters".

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas

If your website is a commodity why should I stick around in your website over thousands of other similar websites?

Because it's the first one you encounter in Google search results for your keywords. You never realize that 100 or so lazy marketers have the exact same site sitting on page 82+ of your search results.

And, I don't necessarily want you to stick around either. I want you to click an ad and go on your merry way. Think of these sites of being like a billboard or a TV infomercial.

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by xlfutur1

Why purchase a turn-key website when you can build them with Wordpress so easily?

The disadvantage I see with WP sites is that they require more maintenance and server overhead than a static HTML site or a PHP site that doesn't do any database access. They have some advantages too, such as RSS feeds, easy online editing and user generated content, so you have to weigh them against each other on a project by project basis to see which is the best fit.

Originally Posted by xlfutur1

The trick to any site is the promotion and building backlinks to get traffic and get them ranked for specific keywords. You could have the greatest looking site in the world, in the greatest niche ever, but if no one ever sees it, it really doesn't matter.

Exactly.

[JonStein]

Originally Posted by abomb55076

Hey, I was woundering if anyones ever purchased a pre-made turnkey website and if so, can you actually start making money off of them from the beginning or do they not work?

The problem, as some warriors have already pointed out, is that 'turnkey' websites are largely rehashed and recycled material. The difficulty in promoting such a site is that you are already 'behind' several hundreds others in the food chain.

Find out by taking a line of text from the turnkey website and searching for it on Google , use quotes around the text, and you may just be surprised to find how many people are promoting that business.

Take for example, would you purchase a 'turnkey' website from me that is an identical clone of Twitter? or maybe even eBay? If you would, then you really should consider another line of business.

What powers the internet and makes money is Unique, fresh and innovative ideas. The Internet is already an extremely competitive marketplace, and to attempt to promote a 'cloned' (ahem excuse me...'turnkey') website is not only inefficient in time, but also money.

Incidentally, the word turnkey originated in 1931 and referred to a prison guard, it was a slang term that meant the jailer would lock someone up.

In reality, if you purchase a turnkey online business, you will no doubt become a prisoner to the site while vainly attempting to make money from it.

I highly recommend you avoid such business tactics and look into creating your own website, although it is time consuming, in the end you will reap more rewards.

Jon

[Glenn Leader]

Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas

If your website is a commodity why should I stick around in your website over thousands of other similar websites? Unless you radically change the turnkey website, it's unlikely that it will ever make much money.

But if you radically change it, then why get a turnkey website?

Tyrus

If you do good offsite SEO work, your site will be heads and shoulders
above the rest of these sites in the search engines. In addition to this,
most of these sites are designed to get the click on the first visit.

HTH

Glenn

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by JonStein

The difficulty in promoting such a site is that you are already 'behind' several hundreds others in the food chain.

Not really. Most people who buy these sites are lazy and/or don't know anything about SEO or other promotional methods. If you do your work right you can move to the top of the food chain rather quickly as long as it's not an ultra competitive niche.

Originally Posted by JonStein

In reality, if you purchase a turnkey online business, you will no doubt become a prisoner to the site while vainly attempting to make money from it.

It really depends on the type of site, your goals with it and how you promote it.

I do pretty well with content/advertising sites that are mostly recycled content, some even on turnkey templates. I know people who do make good money with turnkey ecommerce and affiliate feed sites. They buy the site, plug in their products, do SEO and/or PPC, and make money.

Then again, I know people who buy into a "complete system" (usually one offered by a MLM) and spend hours tweaking it, hoping traffic will come by and they don't make anything.

[turnkeybiz]

Originally Posted by turnkeybiz

Here are some tips to live by:

1. No if you build it they will not come. lol you must market these sites just like any other.

Regard Auggie (Turnkey Biz Geek)

My very 1st point and tip. As a lot of people have already said, No matter what site you have, Turnkey or newly created you have to market the site and get people to see it.

Another quick point:

Domain Registration sites all use the same landing pages for any domains that are parked with them.

If you have a domain name with common keywords in them I am sure that the content that is auto-gen on these pages is the same on each landing page.

Think of all those expired domain name companies pages that you have landed on which are nothing but the same layout with links on them

These sites make a TON of money for Godaddy and others, if you think about it, these auto generated pages are a form of turnkey one page websites.

Last point:

We are forgetting the real reason or advantage to Turnkey Websites and thats a fast and easy way to establish a domain name, get your feet wet or test a niche.

it is also used by people who might not have a CLUE as to what or how to create a website and need a place to start and learn and not spend HOURS or a TON of cash on something that they might not continue with.

I have had clients start with a simply turnkey site, grow a domain and with in a short time the turnkey site that was 1st on the domain is sitting in a folder somewhere in their hard drive and now the domain is a new developed website with unique content.

WHY because they marketed the site made some small amount of money, felt that they can make it grow if they only be more unique

Then you have the one's that buy the turnkey website, think that because they set it up on a domain they will make TON's of cash and after a few months the domain and the site never do anything. WHY because they did nothing.

Turnkey Sites are everywhere, we are labeling this and when people hear the name some think that they are get rich quick scheme

When you buy a Wordpress WSO (that seem to be doing very well by the way lol) that is limited to X number of people Are these not turnkey sites.

When you join a PLR membership that only limites the members to a small 1000 people that they will never fill and rotate new members each month lol Are these not turnkey sites

I guess the point to this whole post is this:

No Matter Turnkey or Newly Built it is not the design or the 1st bit of content that makes a site a winner.

It is the person that sites behind the site, his/her drive and determination to make this site their own and helpful.

If they decide to answers the questions that their niche is asking, then they will be successful,

if they buy any turnkey site or build a new one, let it sit and expect magic to happen then they will be very upset at their results,

Thanks all Auggie (Turnkey Biz Geek)