losing hope here whats wrong?

[millionwq]

Guys my website has been going on for a month. I did angela's backlinking package, used articlemarketer for backlinks, submitted articles to Ezine. I've dropped from 1st page in my main keyword to 2nd page and all these things i do never shifted my search results up a little. Also, i do provide quality content for my viewers but seems that my traffic's not working. anyone knows whats wrong here?

[jkiley]

Eienstine once said...I owe it more to patience then to anything else...

[Angela V. Edwards]

Just about everybody faces this sort of thing. We call it the "Google Dance" and it's common but temporary. Jkiley is right; be patient and you should see your site come back up again.

[millionwq]

=) ill continue the effort hope things start going smoothly. Btw, im using blog posts to update instead of pages. Anything wrong with that?

[Kael41]

As others have said..stay patient..Rome wasn't built in a day, and so neither is your site. Most of my longstanding sites have gradual increases in ranking throughout the months. There are waaay to many variables to pinpoint one such problem in your search for rankings. Just keep giving your visitors what they want.

Analyze your web logs to see which terms your visitors are using in the search engines and build out more articles focused AROUND those keyword terms. Rinse and repeat

[Andyhenry]

This is the point about organic traffic - YOU DON'T CONTROL IT.

You may be doing all the right things (or not), but you can't control the results, you just have to keep on keeping on.

Your best bet is to focus on people rather than hits to your website. Go to places where your target market hang out, join their forums and groups and show that you're an expert in your niche.

The organic traffic will come eventually as long as you keep doing what you know will help.

I've fired a few clients before for trying to force results in the SERPS. It's a business where you need to focus on your market and the SEO stuff is a secondary consideration which will become more beneficial after time.

I've had some websites take 9 months to get fully indexed and have Google loving them - the point is YOU don't control how they treat you, so don't put all your eggs in the SEO basket.

Andy

[gino76]

I have read in the forum about this and I think, you did the same with the guy.

you might have been using the same keyword over and over again through your link building. modify it: eg. cheap iphone from cheap brandname iPhone

[TLTheLiberator]

I'm not sure what's wrong but quitting is not an option and neither is losing hope.

Success with an online business is a marathon not a sprint.

This project you're involved in is not your business.

It is only a project within your business.

Stay positive and practice good online business and success will be yours.

Hope This Helps!!

TL

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by millionwq

my website has been going on for a month. .... anyone knows whats wrong here?

You answered your own question.

[millionwq]

Yes i have been using my main keyword really often. I was under the idea that you should concentrate on your main keyword?

Btw, thanks andy. I read your blog by the way. Its great =D

Originally Posted by gino76

I have read in the forum about this and I think, you did the same with the guy.

you might have been using the same keyword over and over again through your link building. modify it: eg. cheap iphone from cheap brandname iPhone

[millionwq]

Thank you everyone for the encouragement. Seems like i need more patience. Aside from the encouragements, anyone able to spot anything wrong?

[AndyBlackSEO]

One month is nothing. If it's a new site then expect some fluctuations. Do yourself a favout, don't keep checking your rankings everyday like you most likely are. Check them weekly and keep a fortnightly log in a spreadsheet for your keyword phrases.

As for your linkbuilding. 2 - 5 per day is enough for a new site. Just ensure these links get indexed in google. You forum Personal Blackberry is a good way to do this. Just to get these pages picked up.

Just keep doing what you're doing, gradually. Think of it as planting seeds for the summer. Months down the line... And boom. Patience is the key with IM.

As for your other question, blog posts is right. Pages are for things like 'About Us' etc. New articles and info are added via posts.

Good luck!

[FredFarnes]

Suggestion. Give up! Let me take over your domain. lol !

[millionwq]

Sorry andy but im not really sure about some things you've mentioned. Firstly, keep a fortnightly spreadsheet for my keyword phrases? what do you mean here?

Secondly, What is you forum personal blackberry and how to use it to ensure my pages get picked up?

[anth.elias]

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I'm not sure what's wrong but quitting is not an option and neither is losing hope.

Success with an online business is a marathon not a sprint.

This project you're involved in is not your business.

It is only a project within your business.

Stay positive and practice good online business and success will be yours.

Hope This Helps!!

TL

That is the secrete, that there is not secrete other than what you see above.

[JAIDEEP2959]

Use Google content network and Yahoo content network for advertising and you will get heavily targeted traffic which will convert.

[Runner26]

Definitely try even as little as one new SEO technique each week (while you're waiting for previous ones to take effect)... such as writing articles and submitting to a few directories, joining a forum or 2. Continue the ones that you like most or can track as being successful.

If not already, use Google Analytics or StatCounter[dot]com to analyze. Look for search engines and directories that you may not have already submitted to.

With a young site, PPC could be good to test to see if site converts well, so that you don't have to wait 4 months (when you're getting better organic traffic) to find you're not keeping visitors more than a few seconds.

[bobcath]

My opinion is that your site could be doing with more images, too much text for me.

Good luck
Bobby

[InternetMarketingIQ]

It's amazing to think a person can just start up a site in a competitive niche and expect to be on the first page. Reputation and Brand are BUILT over time. Google takes into consideration a whole lot of factors in ranking pages and one of those is domain age.

There are a very limited number of spots on the first page in any search result and staying there requires more than a few backlinks and a few articles. You have to develop a long term strategy and plan.

So this is not surprising at all. Nor is it discouraging. If you want to win at this game you have to keep playing. And the number 1 rule of Search Engine Ranking is the only constant is CHANGE.

[Frank Ayres]

Originally Posted by AndyBlackSEO

One month is nothing. If it's a new site then expect some fluctuations. Do yourself a favout, don't keep checking your rankings everyday like you most likely are. Check them weekly and keep a fortnightly log in a spreadsheet for your keyword phrases.

As for your linkbuilding. 2 - 5 per day is enough for a new site. Just ensure these links get indexed in google. You forum Personal Blackberry is a good way to do this. Just to get these pages picked up.

Just keep doing what you're doing, gradually. Think of it as planting seeds for the summer. Months down the line... And boom. Patience is the key with IM.

As for your other question, blog posts is right. Pages are for things like 'About Us' etc. New articles and info are added via posts.

Good luck!

dont have to be posts.
I have a few sites that are just made up of pages with just 1 post on them and they do alright with adsense earnings

[millionwq]

~.~ i've been updating all the while. Why did my site suddenly just fall to the 4th page. This is demoralising

[Andyhenry]

Originally Posted by millionwq

~.~ i've been updating all the while. Why did my site suddenly just fall to the 4th page. This is demoralising

Sorry my friend but I need to repeat myself - You don't control the search engines.

I suggest you stop trying to control them and just think about the people you're trying to help, where they are and how to help them.

If you constantly watch the search engines you're in for a bumpy ride and wanting to change things 'to make them happy' all the time - and that ride never ends.

Andy

[megaresp]

Originally Posted by millionwq

~.~ i've been updating all the while. Why did my site suddenly just fall to the 4th page. This is demoralising

Yes, it is demoralising.

Now you get to find out whether you really have what it takes to make it in this business.

[n00b]

Like Randy Pausch said, the brick walls are there for you to prove how much you want it. They are there to keep the "other" people out.

I would also suggest you stop and think about the websites you visit most often and why. The websites I go to the most and that I actually read through are the ones that I find through social networking. If someone I'm following on Twitter recommends it, I'll read it because I only follow people that I know have the same interests. You need your site to be that site. Studies have shown that it takes a cold prospect several exposures to get hooked and buy. If it's a warm prospect the hook is almost immediate and they are much more likely to buy.

None of my favorite sites were found through the search engines (with the exception of Wikipedia and imdb). If I'm looking to spend money on something I'm much more likely to ask around my social network rather than search online for someone who wants my money. Make your site the water cooler of the muscle building community, it will get you targeted traffic and will naturally raise your site in the search engine results over time.

Don't get so caught up in the SEO game that you lose sight of the big picture. I've searched for things on Google, clicked on the first result and immediately clicked out because it was a crappy site and probably manipulated its way to the top and will fall back down. That webmaster achieved the goal of being #1, yippee, but he didn't make any money off of me.

If you're consistently building links and building a quality site, it will all work out. You need both, seo with a crappy site is bad, a great site that no one sees is bad. Work on what you can control and let Google do their thing.

[Stu Eaves]

One month is nothing my friend, seriously. One of my sites was built and went live in 2002. It took 3 YEARS of split testing everything, redesigns, and a lot of work getting traffic from multiple sources to get that into a profitable position. It's now VERY profitable, highly ranked for all my chosen keywords, and I don't have to do much to keep it that way now - it's almost fully automatic and makes sales daily.

The point is you can't just give up after a month or a few tries. Believe me I know what it's like, I felt like giving up and moving on after a year (all the gurus would of told me to move on it's not making money!) But I stuck with it, got the traffic flowing, changed things around, SPLIT TESTED everything and ended up with a very profitable site. THEN you take all that experience and knowledge you've learned and guess what!?? REPEAT it with another site! Then another! You get the idea!

[rmx]

Just go to the WSO forum and buy all the products that promise to put you at #1 on the front page of Google in 5 minutes or less. . . . guaranteed!!!!

That will solve your problem :-)

[millionwq]

guess you guys are right. Im concentrating too much on the SEO. I never wanted to give up but just got demoralised when i did my part but saw worst results. Anyway, anyone thinks i need a squeeze page? seems like traffic that i have been getting are not subscribing

[grandstar]

why don't you flip your site? Could make some cool cash!!!