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Old 09-03-2008, 10:07 AM   #1
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Google made it.

I just had to make a Chrome thread after seeing the others!

But seriously though, as I've mentioned in another thread, I tested the speed of the new browser. Google Chrome was faster than IE and Firefox. I noticed the difference before I tested. I guess the reason why is because Chrome processes javascript more efficiently... and it was programmed by Google.

There are bugs now but they will be cleaned out. I believe I read that Google launched Chrome early because information about it was leaked about it.

As far as privacy goes, you have an option to send Google information about your usage to improve the product. Just don't check it if you don't want them to see what you're doing! It's simple.

I tried to install the Google Toolbar but it wouldn't work. I don't think they'll release Toolbar for the new browser. I do think they might incorporate parts of it into the browser in future updates.

Threat to IM? I don't think so. If there is, I am sure we can conform.

I think Google is a great company with a diverse set of products. They have so much money to throw at many different ideas, it can only continue to benefit us.

Now go download Google Chrome! Check it out. It's simple and fast. Easy to use. http://www.google.com/chrome
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Google has a lot to compete with. Specifically, the huge amount of addons in Firefox.

But I suspect there is something else going on we don't know about. They would not invest money in something that doesn't somehow mesh with other services in a unique and different way.

For example, now they can program Adwords ads to appear within the browser's skin. They can also start tracking our movements even closer. Think about it. They own Adsense, Adwords and Google Analytics. And now they're putting out a browser. That's a pretty powerful suite of products. All that's left is providing some sort of Apache/IIS solution to power the servers.



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Google are serious.. so much money there making
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All that's left is providing some sort of Apache/IIS solution to power the servers.
Don't forget the implanted chips that will control all of our thoughts and actions.
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Google has a lot to compete with. Specifically, the huge amount of addons in Firefox.

But I suspect there is something else going on we don't know about. They would not invest money in something that doesn't somehow mesh with other services in a unique and different way.

For example, now they can program Adwords ads to appear within the browser's skin. They can also start tracking our movements even closer. Think about it. They own Adsense, Adwords and Google Analytics. And now they're putting out a browser. That's a pretty powerful suite of products. All that's left is providing some sort of Apache/IIS solution to power the servers.
No matter what they do it will benefit the user. They wouldn't be so successful if their product didn't benefit the user. Google paid $56 million just to have their search engine set as default in Mozilla Firefox! I believe that accounted for something like 85% of Mozilla's income.

I'm sure that tactic got a lot of people to use their search engine (probably switched a lot of people over) which in turn generated profits from their contextual ads. Since I've had Firefox I haven't changed my default homepage. It still goes to the Firefox branded Google search page.

With so much cash sitting in their bank account, why not try to take over the browser market?

As for the addons, I believe that the ability might already be there waiting for developers to make them or it will be added in an update.
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Google is an amazing company. They keep trying things. Some things work like a charm, some things don't are are removed. PPA ads are an example of things they decided to trash.

Their browser just might take off, who knows.

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Google is an amazing company. They keep trying things. Some things work like a charm, some things don't are are removed. PPA ads are an example of things they decided to trash.

Their browser just might take off, who knows.
People are predicting a 15%-20% market share in a year I think. I believe Firefox is there right now which took Mozilla years to achieve.

Check the article below. Another analytics company is reporting over 2.5% already!

Chrome grabs 1% of browser market in under 24 hours
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Just like Google video is the best online video sharing site ever?

Not everything that google touches turns to gold.

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People are predicting a 15%-20% market share in a year I think. I believe Firefox is there right now which took Mozilla years to achieve.

Check the article below. Another analytics company is reporting over 2.5% already!

Chrome grabs 1% of browser market in under 24 hours
That's just hype. Volume of downloads does not translate to active users.

I downloaded it and tried it out... but I am typing this in Firefox ;-)

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Just like Google video is the best online video sharing site ever?

Not everything that google touches turns to gold.
You're right Josh, but that's why they also own YouTube!

Also, based on that article, the stats are based on sites visited using the browser,
not based on downloads.

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According to Net Applications, which is tracking Chrome's hourly numbers, Google's browser jumped from zero to 0.4% during the hour it was released yesterday. Nine hours later, at midnight EDT, Chrome accounted for 1% of the browsers used to visit the 40,000 or so sites that the company monitors for clients.

As Vizzaccaro noted, Chrome peaked at 1.48% early today -- at 4 a.m. EDT, 1 a.m. PDT -- and as of 11 a.m. EDT held a 0.98% market share.

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Just like Google video is the best online video sharing site ever?

Not everything that google touches turns to gold.



That's just hype. Volume of downloads does not translate to active users.

I downloaded it and tried it out... but I am typing this in Firefox ;-)
There are independent companies that measure market share by tracking what browsers people are using to visit their clients' websites. It has nothing to do with how many times Chrome was downloaded.
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I am still waiting for Chrome to support firefox like extensions, like firebug, delicious, and my favorite AdBlock Plus.

Besides that I really like it.

It runs faster and takes less screen real estate.

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Ok, I just finally got my main computer back to normal by re-installing windows, etc.

I installed Google Chrome, and WHOA, I can't remember the last time I browsed the net
this fast. Plus, with Firefox, Gmail sometimes took ages to load, now it loads in a few
seconds. The verdict is in for me, I love it, and it's now my default browser.

I just hope they can get the Firefox like plugins asap!

Bye bye IE, and soon Firefox.

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Because it's fast, all Google apps fly on that thing.

Secondly, because they "borrowed" open source content from Firefox even faster!

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I'm amazed at how fast Gmail loads, under 2 seconds TOPS.

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google chrome is slow but looks good.

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google chrome is slow but looks good.
Slow?

I just tested IE 7, Firefox, and Chrome, and Chrome is BLAZING FAST, I'm so amazed,
that I don't even care that the other plugins and goodies aren't there right now.

Firefox crashed a lot for me lately, IE I stopped using long ago, I think long term
Chrome is going to capture a bigger market share than Firefox.

Mind you, I've only been using it for a whole 15 - 20 minutes now, so we'll see ...

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Another issue are the security holes... I will wait for Google to plug them before I will use Chrome again... I guess in the move for simplicity they overlooked a few known security exploits Apple had to deal with that have already been plugged by Safari ;-)

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Here's an interesting article about Google Chrome and its comparison with other browsers:
Review: Google Chrome lacks polish under the hood - Yahoo! News

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Its the worst browser Ive ever seen. I thought Opera was bad but Googles browser is a joke!

It lacks so many things its ridiculous!
Sheesh, what does everyone expect a browser to do? It's a browser... You use it to browse!

Updates and improvements will come.
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Well I wasn't planning on installing Chrome today but all this talk got me curious and wow - yes it really is fast!

I've only tried it for a few minutes, but as first impressions go I'm impressed! If there aren't too many bugs then I could see myself using this on a regular basis for general browsing.

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I read the above-mentioned article with interest:

Review: Google Chrome lacks polish under the hood - Yahoo! News

...and it left me wondering how they measured the "end cpu" thing that they talk about as a bad thing, and if their findings were valid.

Here's why...

As someone who has programmed many Windows applications, the CPU and memory usage numbers shown in the Windows Task Manager are often not real-time values. Windows can be told to update them, and the values shown then can be very different.

For one Windows application I wrote recently, I used to wonder why the memory usage as shown in the Task Manager seemed to stay at around 12Mb even when the program was sitting idle.

After a lot of searching around, I discovered that it was possible to issue a call that would tell Windows to get itself organized and to update that list. When I issued that call in my software, the shown memory usage immediately dropped to a few hundred Kb. That value was the real usage at that time.

All I'm saying is, don't believe everything you read - there may be more to it than meets the eye.

All that said, I downloaded Chrome today with some trepidation. The new version of my flagship web-based application makes heavy use of both CSS and Javascript.

I'm happy to say that it worked flawlessly, and very fast, right out of the box.

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Interesting info Neil. I just opened task manager for something else and noticed that there were 12 instances of Chrome running!!! It appears that each tab has its own instance, and since some of them were over 25Mb that soon eats up a lot of ram...

Is this a bug or is this supposed to happen? Every other browser I've ever used just has one instance of the software, no matter how many tabs were open.

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I wasn't even going to download it. But I really wanted to see if it was as fast as everyone said. It is fast!!! Pages seemed to be loading instantly. There is definitely a marked difference. Hmmm! I am tempted.

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Hi Bill

Ha! Talk about turning a negative into a positive! That's why they can say that a site that crashes one tab will not affect the others - because they're running as completely separate processes.

They could teach Labour a thing or two about spin!

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Ha! Talk about turning a negative into a positive! That's why they can say that a site that crashes one tab will not affect the others - because they're running as completely separate processes.

They could teach Labour a thing or two about spin!
I see - so it's not a bug it's a "feature"

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I see - so it's not a bug it's a "feature"
It's a feature that I cannot scroll up on my touchpad? lol... I like the browser. I'm sure they're working all the "feature bugs" out!
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It lacks so many things its ridiculous!
um, Chrome is in it's beta stage, it'll probably have more features as google updates it

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I'm sure lots of features will be added to Chrome. I love the simplicity of how it is right now though.
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I'm not a huge fan of chrome, and I don't think Google's hand in it makes much difference in terms of its projected success, to be honest. Knols haven't blown up, I don't think Chrome will either really. :/

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i prefer firefox because its addons; download helper, downloadthemall, no script, etc... but i may use chrome if they have that addons

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I'm not a huge fan of chrome, and I don't think Google's hand in it makes much difference in terms of its projected success, to be honest. Knols haven't blown up, I don't think Chrome will either really. :/
Google Knol is still new... I think it's got some potential. As far as Chrome goes, I believe it will be very widely downloaded. Google does have to fix some bugs though. I know a couple of people that won't use it just because it's new.

I can't scroll up on my touchpad... I am sure that Google will fix it soon!
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I seriously doubt chrome will be any good
Currently I'm using opera and it's extremely cool, I don't care about the cookies or system resources...

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For those of you who think that having each tab running as a separate process is bad, let me tell you how great that is. I have been running FireFox for a long time. I usually have more than 80 tabs open. Many times, there is a bad egg in the bunch and the browser pretty much locks up my machine. It would be GREAT to see which process is causing the problem! Anyway, on my computer, FireFox uses over 1GB RAM, so it is a memory hog.

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I just started using Firefox and love the add ons. I'm impressed with Chrome and what's available. IE really stinks when you consider the options available from Firefox and Chrome.

SPEED....is the name of the game, I thought it was my old puter, but it was IE.

Google Chrome is FAST! and I'm loving it. Looking forward to add ons.

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hello i was a very hard worker but now i relax have a look how you can relax too
Could you not say something about chrome at least.
I love chrome, but I will wait for a bit before using it full time. I was a victim of the safari security bugs and have learned to wait, or go with what is already working and is experienced in the security department

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This is from an article on the BBC website recentlty concerning the terms for using "Chrome".

***** Google has rescinded an article of the user agreement for its new browser, Chrome, released on Tuesday.
The initial agreement claimed rights over "any Content which you submit, post or display on or through" the browser.
Google reworded the agreement on Wednesday, leaving those rights in the hands of Chrome's users.
A spokesperson for Google said its user agreements were re-used and the initial claim was an oversight.
The initial End User Licence Agreement (EULA) claimed "a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services." *****


Yea. Nice try Google. An oversight? I find that difficult to believe.

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there is a dll in Chrome which google only provides .h file, no resource code. What it does is decribed at below. Chrome will be the best? I hope so, but unlikely.


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http://src.chromium.org/svn/trunk/sr...wser/rlz/rlz.h


// RLZ is a library which is used to measure partner distribution deals.
// Its job is to record certain lifetime events in the registry and to send
// them encoded as a compact string at most once per day. The sent data does
// not contain information that can be used to identify a user or to infer
// browsing habits. The API in this file is a wrapper to rlz.dll which can
be
// removed of the system with no adverse effects on chrome.

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I just started using Firefox and love the add ons. I'm impressed with Chrome and what's available. IE really stinks when you consider the options available from Firefox and Chrome.

SPEED....is the name of the game, I thought it was my old puter, but it was IE.

Google Chrome is FAST! and I'm loving it. Looking forward to add ons.

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After seeing this thread I finally took the plunge and I can't believe how speedy it is!

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Just tried it out - damn it's fast! Looking forward to more add-ons
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Incidentally, Chrome makes the Warrior forum much better. When you hover over the thread it pops up the first few sentences so you can see if it's worth reading. No more getting tricked by "Bad News" headlines .

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Incidentally, Chrome makes the Warrior forum much better. When you hover over the thread it pops up the first few sentences so you can see if it's worth reading. No more getting tricked by "Bad News" headlines .
All my browsers do that...
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Don't forget the implanted chips that will control all of our thoughts and actions.
Jus wer dos chips implanted? In our brain, through the internet, where?
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Wow Josh, I'd try it too but it's still in beta and has a few problems. But generally I'm a guy who buys and/or subscribes to leading technology like yours. (Even though you, a little reactively cancelled my order.)
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just uploaded a set of themes for Chrome

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This webpage can not be found, the home page doesn't work either.

After a few days of using Chrome now, I'm still using it as my main browser,
and Firefox as my back up when I need it for certain plugins, which isn't
very often at all. As far as IE is concerned, what's IE?

Yes, there may be bugs here and there with Chrome, but it's only been out a week,
and I'm sure they will patch things up, make add-ons available, etc,
the speed is what gets me, and why I use it primarily now.

Gmail loads in 1 - 2 seconds max, which is unreal, compared to Firefox & IE of course.

About each Tab having its own process, I LOVE IT!

Firefox has crashed on me sooo many times when 1 tab hangs for what ever
reason, ever since I upgraded to Firefox 3, it's been more problematic then
previous versions, just in my experience of course.

So for now, I'll stick with Chrome, and wait for new additions to come.

Hopefully, plugins & security patches will come sooner than later, then it will
truly be game over for the other browsers, Google has deep pockets, and I'm
sure they will continue to upgrade, and aim to dominate the browser market.

Love or hate Google, they always seem to make innovative useful products
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I agree Tommy. All tabs in one instance! Dumb! Memory is cheap.

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For those of you who think that having each tab running as a separate process is bad, let me tell you how great that is. I have been running FireFox for a long time. I usually have more than 80 tabs open. Many times, there is a bad egg in the bunch and the browser pretty much locks up my machine. It would be GREAT to see which process is causing the problem! Anyway, on my computer, FireFox uses over 1GB RAM, so it is a memory hog.

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I hope they update soon... Not being able to scroll UP is getting irritating!
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Well Chrome is already in news. And I do believe that some are picking the flaw of chrome and trying to get into the limelight. But one thing which I really like about Google is they launch their product in lab section and from their they want to get the advice and suggestion from all around the world and finally they launch it.

Just wait and watch these Google people really know how to turn table to their side.
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