What Are Your Views Regarding An Email I Recieved

Could the email providers be getting stricter for emails ?

or could he be using a marketing tactic for his next launch ?

Hey livo, was he trying to sell you something? Was he trying to sell you on a different marketing strategy that's not email marketing?

clicks and buying are 2 different things.

Dont matter how many emails you send, if you only get 35 clicks theres not much chance for a sale. its more of a case of "No one is opening HIS emails anymore"

I just bought a product today. Guess I'm not buying into this at all.

The way I see it. Everyone is just doing the same thing. Selling crap products to people they blindly opt into their email list and then expect these people to open their emails. Guess what? Most people opting in on squeeze pages that give no upfront value are gonna give a secondary email address. I do it. You do it - and so does everyone else. If they're not doing this, they're either dumb, or very new to this business. And soon enough they'll cop-on to this too.

I see a lot of people talking about their emails not getting opened. They're then given the advice to write better subject lines. Send more free content. Connect on a personal level. But, you can't open an email if it's sitting inside your secondary email account. The account that you ONLY use to download free content because the marketers squeeze page you've just landed on gives you no reason to trust them.

And you know what else? 99% of people are blindly opting people into their list. There's even a name for the new "stupid" squeeze pages that have nothing more than an opt-in form and a backdrop of a tropical beach telling you sign up to get a free video. I think they're calling these squeeze pages, "The Guru Style Squeeze Page."

Problem is, if you're not a guru, and nobody knows who the hell you are, you're essentially inviting people to give you fake details. And I'm not talking about fake names here.

So, you opt in. You watch the video... and... are very disappointed. How many times has this happened? Now, you go off on your merry little way until you come across another squeeze page.

Different looking squeeze page but exactly the same scenario. You're given a fragment of info just to raise curiosity. So, you enter your details to find out about this new million-dollar-opportunity. Again you're disappointed. The content wasn't what you expected. Again, you've been tricked. At least that's how it seems. Off you go on your merry little way once more...

... until you come across yet another squeeze page that promises all the riches your heart desires. But, once again you're not given enough information to determine whether or not the content is what it seems. You don't want to be tricked again. So this time you're a little wiser.

This time you don't give your primary email address. This time you give an email address that you never check. You certainly never log into that email account to read messages.

Aha. Not only do you not enter your primary email address into that particular squeeze page. You NEVER enter your primary email address into a squeeze page again that doesn't give you any upfront value. No trust. No primary email address.

When we break it down into it's simplest form. People are only stupid through lack of awareness. Eventually we all cop on at some stage. Now, if every marketer (more or less) are using stripped down squeeze pages and blindly opting people into their email lists, isn't it obvious as time goes on, that less and less people will give primary email addresses on squeeze pages? Hmmn... maybe, just maybe, bad subject lines and rubbish email messages are not the only culprit to low open rates.

OK. Not everything I say here is, the only reason for low open rates - and less sales. But it adds to the already growing problem of mistrust in this business.

Want better open rates? Give value before and after the opt-in process. First impressions are super important. Now more than ever.

Declan.

He's most likely trying to sell you something that works just like a charm.

Or there could be a trick, are you sure he sent you the email?

I think we're in danger here of confusing "internet marketing" (the process by which real businesses promote themselves through the internet by whichever means) and "internet marketing" (the make-money-online info product business).

I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the latter was becoming saturated, and was difficult to make any money from. The whole industry has had a very poor reputation for years! The other problem is that a lot of the "gooroo" types just stir their lists round and round via JV's and affiliate promo's. Of course, those customers doing the circuit of one giant list after another are going to lose interest and get hardened to the constant overblown hype.

Marketing via the internet is not dead. Millions of businesses do it daily. I'm one of them - I don't generally sell to the Make Money market, but all the other markets I deal with are just fine thanks.

If his list was previously successful for him and is not now.........he might have just worn his followers out and hasn't got what they want/need anymore to pull them back in. He might also have gotten too self-bloated and just made people sick of him. Both happens throughout the years.

Ask yourself how much you think you can produce for a list to keep people buying.......and for how long. I think it's ego talking when he says that people are no longer buying......he obviously needs to change/update his business model and just doesn't know what to do about it just yet.

Chances are he treated his list of 100,000 purely as a personal ATM machine and nothing else.

If you want your list to produce money for you, you need to treat it with tender loving care.

When I get onto someone's list (whether for a free or paid product), if I suddenly get bombarded with promotions one after the other, I'll quickly be leaving.

On the other hand, the lists I stay on, even if they do promote frequently, there's still something that keeps me there. Either their entertaining emails, great content offered for free, or a deep sense of trust I have in that person.

Sometimes I'll stay on someone's list just to see his email subject lines!

Based on my experience, just a month ago, email marketing is dead (not internet marketing, they two different things). Email marketing is more of a spam nowadays, though some may not be filtered as spam but they are considered as spam. Why would you care for a bunch of unknown senders from your email? Would you even care to read it one by one? No, right. It's more of a promotion, ads and clicks, but conversion? I don't think so.

He didn't make millions from IM...maybe not even thousands. If someone gets 35 clicks out of 100k emails, its not an oversaturation issue. I would get more than 35 clicks from 100k emails even if I sold heaters in Egypt.

I've been saying the same thing on here forever.

Squeeze pages / forced opt ins with bribes aren't effective anymore.

You end up with a bunch of junk emails and unresponsive subscribers who do not want your follow up emails and 9/10 would prefer you didn't email them.

At best emails go unopened and at worst they get marked as spam.

No headline trickery, call to action, copywriting skills or 'secrets' is going to help with getting more opens, clicks and sales.

People aren't even seeing your emails as they go to junk, spam and promo folders or to email addresses people never check.

Yet it seems 99% of marketers keep on following this method and wondering why they can't even get 10% open rates.

Send them to your content rich site or through a content funnel before you ask for an opt in and if you've shown them you know your stuff, have knowledge they want and seem trustworthy enough they'll willingly give you their REAL email, safelist it so it always lands in their inbox and open emails every time you send regardless of how good your headline is.

Maybe he made millions in 2005, and he's stuck trying to use methods in 2014 that worked in 2005.

email marketing does not work anymore.. that's the truth. Yes, it worked before,, maybe 10 years ago!

Email marketing is still very effective if you know how to do it properly. You must build a relationship with your list from the start.

Ask them questions and respond back to every reply you get.

Give out solid advice to your list always.

Help them out whenever you can.

In other words treat them right, and they will become buyers.

Kate

I don't seem to be having a problem but more of the opposite of what your talking about but I haven't made millions (yet) You'd better check your moderator again!

I see many Emails from Gurus which only try and sell me something! some even send two a day. Whenever I see this, that mailer is put on my Spam list.

emails should be informative, so that the reader wants to read my email. Whatever niche you are in, you can find some PLR. Adapt that PLR into interesting emails. Don't send every day, but every two or three days.

Every once and a while you should send an email with an offer and a call to action. Do that with a list you've built using educational emails, and continue using that technique. You'll find a lot more sucess in the long run.

Impossible. There's no such thing as saturation because everyday there is a new demand of a new product... and there's never a surplus of marketers to fill in the gap.

It's my hypothesis that there will be an increased demand for "Internet marketing" "biz op" and "make money online" opportunities.

Also remember, that gurus sell stuff. They will hypnotize you into buying their solutions. (Ask yourself how the "guru" relayed the information to you in the first place?).



PS:
Is email marketing dead?

Yeah. If you're particularly unskilled and unable to communicate effectively with your subscribers.

No. People love to buy. This industry will never get saturated. However, too many people are focused on all the wrong things. There are tons of marketers who are into teaching people stuff in hopes to make sales for themselves.

But this type of approach can attract the freebie knowledge seekers who like to get stuff for free.

Be careful how you are approaching your 'target' audience.

If you want to make money (consistently) online, then the more that you can help others get what you want, will surely help your bottom line.

But remember to utilize a 'System' that targets an audience who is 'ready' to buy.

I would like to have read the text of the email, less the name of the sender. Was he/she using this "no longer works" scenario to try and sell you on his/her next shiny object/service,etc...?

WAY too many internet marketers view an opt-in or purchase as their license to hit your inbox incessantly with their or their JV partner's next best shiny object promotion. They hype you with the premise that you need to remain on their list so you receive notices of any free updates, which conveniently never happen. Some use the opt-ins/buy email list to hit you daily or sometimes twice daily without giving you the option to get their emails once a week, once a month, etc. as some larger companies allow you to do. Sorry for the rant but if they are not getting clicks like they used to, it is probably their own fault!

There has been a lot of crap out there. If there is no content in the emails and I get email after email after email (sometimes several in one day), just wanting my money, I unsubscribe. Sometimes I don't get around to unsubscribing for a while, so I just don't open the emails. Maybe the person who sent the email is one of those that doesn't think content is necessary and the email list is simply for selling to. I know of some of the big names that do this. I doubt that it's working very well for them nowadays.

Why would this person bother sending out another email telling you that email marketing is dead if their previous email to 100K only got 35 clicks...

That math doesn't add up... lol

If I got 35 clicks from a 100K email list - that 100K email list would soon be more like a 1K email list because I'd be doing some heavy segmenting to get rid of the true dead weight.

I've personally deleted as many as 23K subscribers at once because they were "dead weight".

But I don't think I'd bother sending a second email saying that email marketing is dead if my last email got such a low response. That just doesn't make sense!

Cheers,
Coby

P.S. email marketing is NOT dead - but zombie marketing is! Stop following others! Don't be afraid to stand out and do your "own thing".

LOL. Get ready to buy the solution!'