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Old 06-06-2009, 12:07 AM   #51
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When I tried IM years ago, I tried out traffic swarm. I, too, remember the endless clicking. Then it didn't work for me. The traffic was not targeted. Everyone else was just there to click too. It left a bad taste in my mouth. They may have changed things around. I think you could do something more productive with your time. Article marketing maybe.
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Old 06-06-2009, 12:33 AM   #52
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I've only used free traffic websites like traffic exchanges to make my entire income online. Sites like traffic exchanges are PERFECT for people who don't want to write articles every day, hunt for weird niches, figure out SEO, afraid to invest cash into adwords, and whatever else is out there.

If you follow the advice given by several of the big TE owners here, you'll do well in traffic exchanges.

I know because I started with nothing, and I followed the advice of people like Paul Kinder, Jon Olson, Robert Puddy, and Soren Jordensan. Now I enjoy a full time income online (straight out of college to boot) thanks to the advice of these guys.

Traffic exchanges aren't for everyone, but they DO work.

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Old 06-06-2009, 03:09 AM   #53
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I gave no false information but why do you think only marketers use TE's ?? That is a false statement right there. There are many Work at Home Moms, PTR, PTC, PT Anything, that also use TE's...
Only people in the IM niche have sucesses w/ it. The others, may get one sale out of 100.
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I understand and know what I talk about because I have built the freaking scripts from the ground up for clients. It is my "personal opinion" that they are a waste of time and useless unless you are the owner.
Being able to program them and knowing how to profit from them as a user are two different things.
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Last time I checked I had the right to voice my opinion especially over something I do fully understand.
But you don't understand them. If you did, you would be able to profit from them.

I know many users making money with TEs.

Remember, just because YOU FAIL with them doesn't mean they are a waste of time.

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I hold a google position #6 out of 130 million results with "marketer" in the key-phrase (and this is climbing).
Point? I rank in the top 5 with A LOT of two word IM related phrases but that doesnt make me an SEO expert. Just like you knowing a system works doesn't qualify you to state they are worthless as a fact. Remember, you stated it as a fact originally.

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It is simple Traffic Exchanges Work if you use them right. Just like with any type of traffic generation system there are article directories that work and ones that just dont. Same with traffic exchanges some work some do not.
Traffic exchanges have taken a turn for the worse in the last few months as many are offering cash for surfing. A traffic exchange that offers this has people surfing like mad for all of the wrong reason and your results will be horrid at best.

Look for a rewarding traffic exchange but has active users for the right reason. If your promoting a generic page change it up and develop a squeeze page. Traffic exchanges are best used to grab peoples attention quick and get their first and last name.

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I own one myself I have worked with them for years. I make a full income off my traffic exchange and using others. They work but take time to learn how to work effectively just like everything else out there PPC included

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Old 06-06-2009, 04:16 AM   #55
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Only people in the IM niche have sucesses w/ it. The others, may get one sale out of 100.
Being able to program them and knowing how to profit from them as a user are two different things.
But you don't understand them. If you did, you would be able to profit from them.

I know many users making money with TEs.

Remember, just because YOU FAIL with them doesn't mean they are a waste of time.

Point? I rank in the top 5 with A LOT of two word IM related phrases but that doesnt make me an SEO expert. Just like you knowing a system works doesn't qualify you to state they are worthless as a fact. Remember, you stated it as a fact originally.
I stated my opinion as others have.. With that said I will tell you a FACT..

"A real developer must understand how a site is to function not only coding wise but profit wise in order to build a proper site"

I am not talking about someone that takes a bunch of open source code and slap it together, I am talking about a real developer thatcan build a website 100% from scratch. I am sure 90% of the developers on this forum will agree with my statement above also.

You can not build a dynamic website without knowing how it is to profit because you must build the functions for those requirements. Building a proper site takes research, consultation, and etc ..

Next you will tell me I do not know how to profit from a membership site just because I coded "many" of them...

With that said I will opt-out of this discussion..

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Old 06-11-2009, 04:10 PM   #56
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Thanks but I have 2 servers.. I could use another domain name easily (lord knows I own enough) but did not want to, I wanted to use the SSL one...
Use StartXchange, it supports SSL. I agree with the other guys, just posting because you keep saying SSL is what's keeping you from trying it.
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Old 06-11-2009, 05:15 PM   #57
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Well let me ask you this... You spent 5-6 hours browsing other people's sites in the traffic system, right?

How many ads did you personally click on?

How many products did you personally buy?

If your answer is none, what makes you think others will do any differently than you did?
My thoughts exactly! I've been on the clicking end like you as well a few years ago and I can count on one hand how many times I actually signed up for something.
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