Save Me:I Just Spent 5-6 Hours Today Clicking STUPID Links...

[ebizman87]

I hate to say this but I've just spent 5-6 hours today clicking all the links at trafficswarm to TEST whether it works or not...

Now before I get crazy tomorrow clicking links for another 5-6 hours, can you guys tell me whether the energy and time that I'm spending for that program is WORTHY or not?

If YES,do you mind sharing your sweet experiences with me?

If NO,I'd like to say THANK YOU in advance for saving me!!

[ebizman87]

Originally Posted by NwS

5-6 hours? :/

Last time I were using a Traffic Exchange site was back in 2005 and didn't really have any luck with it. On the other hand if you are promoting a money making product and you are doing so on a manual traffic site then you might got a chance of achieving something here. You will surely need luck though so I hope the best for you

Guess I've to wait and see...Thanks for your input!!

[ebizman87]

Originally Posted by anthony2313

if i was you i wouldn't waste my time on traffic exchanges.

is that the only form of traffic you use?

No.I'm trying on this new method to get extra traffic.I heard from a well known mentor that it's a NOT A BAD idea from trying it as he's in the TOP 25 referral list and is ranked at #5 or #6 if I'm not mistaken.

[ebizman87]

Originally Posted by anthony2313

what other forms of traffic do you use?

Actually I'm promoting an affiliate program through trafficswarm.My goal is to drive 100% traffic from trafficexchange programs to make sales.I just wana test whether it works or not!!

[jasonl70]

Assuming you live in the US:

5.5 hours at a min. wage job would be almost $50 I think.

That could buy you some highly targeted traffic with ppc, or pay to outsource 15 articles, or pay for some one way links, or outsource some backlink building.

The 5.5 hours also could be used for your own backlinking efforts, or simply used writing your own articles. OR, they could be used writing articles or plr for others, then reinvested in the ways I mentioned above.

Just some stuff to consider before you spend another day clicking for hours...

[Black Hat Cat]

Please....don't waste your time with traffic exchanges.

Traffic Exchanges are a waste of time, Oh My last time I even visited one of those site was like 5 or 6 years ago.. They are a waste of time and energy.

If you like to waste time and make no money:
* Link Echanges
* Surf Exchanges
* Anything PTR
* FFA Link Pages
* Safe List
* Top List

If you want to make money and work smart:
* Post on related blogs
* Do Article Marketing
* Bookmark Your Sites
* Do Social Networking
* Have Publisher Publish Your Articles
* Post On Press Release Sites

I do not know who your mentor is but that is some pretty bad advice they just gave you.. The exchanges and some of those methods I mentioned in the first bullet section have played out years ago. They are useless methods that do nothing but waste your time when you could be working smart and building your business.

I do not claim to be a marketer but I have been around enough years to know what is a waste of time..

James

[GuruGazette]

Originally Posted by ebizman87

Actually I'm promoting an affiliate program through trafficswarm.My goal is to drive 100% traffic from trafficexchange programs to make sales.I just wana test whether it works or not!!

Well let me ask you this... You spent 5-6 hours browsing other people's sites in the traffic system, right?

How many ads did you personally click on?

How many products did you personally buy?

If your answer is none, what makes you think others will do any differently than you did?

[Uncle Dimitry]

pssst, here is a link for you, but don't click it ))

don't click me!!!!

[Doug English]

Wow...talk about some ignorant responses.

Just because you don't know how to use traffic exchanges, safelists, etc....doesn't mean they don't work.

This is basically like saying "I joined Twitter and bought some 'auto follow and spam' software but it didn't work.

Do you guys have any idea how many people are making a killing from these types of traffic sources?

If I recall, Mike Filsaime even started out with these types of programs.

Don't knock 'em just because you don't know how to use them.

[flattop]

Originally Posted by ebizman87

No.I'm trying on this new method to get extra traffic.I heard from a well known mentor that it's a NOT A BAD idea from trying it as he's in the TOP 25 referral list and is ranked at #5 or #6 if I'm not mistaken.

Ok, I am gonna say Negative... I think Jason Dinner likes this method, but personally I think it is a huge waste of time... IMHO

I would rather spend my time building relationships with people to get my word out brother...

To Your Success,
Clint Anderson

Originally Posted by GuruGazette

Well let me ask you this... You spent 5-6 hours browsing other people's sites in the traffic system, right?

How many ads did you personally click on?

How many products did you personally buy?

If your answer is none, what makes you think others will do any differently than you did?

That about sums it up ... Especialy now with all the automation, traffic exchanges think that little timer / click next stops a bot from using the system but hmm... WRONG!!

Very easy to build a bot on a set timer and have it trigger the button.. If after 10 sites or so a number entry is asked for then the bot can be programmed to auto logout and back and start over...

Is'nt technology just wonderful ...

James

[jasonl70]

Originally Posted by Doug English

If I recall, Mike Filsaime even started out with these types of programs.

That doesn't mean they're effective. As a matter of fact, I've heard a comment from him in a video I've watched recently to the contrary - and he's a bit biased

[Jon Olson]

Geeez I must have this whole thing wrong...Been doing this stuff since 1999, been working online full time for years...But whoa, these things dont work...

Great job, keep up the good work.

Ignorance is not an excuse.

[RyanHogan]

Manual traffic exchanges are not a waste of time if used correctly.
Like any other medium If your offer sucks, then so will your results.
The way to succeed in Traffic exchanges is to use a good attention-grabbing splashpage or LCP and get the surfers onto your list.
I've been using Manual traffic exchanges (not autosurfs) successfully since 2001 and still use them to this day.
BTW, Gary Ambrose just opened one of his own this week called Traffic Dealer.

Originally Posted by Doug English

Wow...talk about some ignorant responses.

Just because you don't know how to use traffic exchanges, safelists, etc....doesn't mean they don't work.

This is basically like saying "I joined Twitter and bought some 'auto follow and spam' software but it didn't work.

Do you guys have any idea how many people are making a killing from these types of traffic sources?

If I recall, Mike Filsaime even started out with these types of programs.

Don't knock 'em just because you don't know how to use them.

You should not assume people do not know how to use them, I do know as I dealt with the useless things years ago when I was stupid and did not know how to work smart.

The ones that make the money from those useless programs are that owners because people get suckered into paying a monthly fee thiking it will help them. Fact is you can pay your monthly fee and have 100,000 credits a month, if 50% of the membership is using bots then guess what ... They dont see your ads no matter how pretty or how hyped up they are.

Oh I know, someone will say you can't use a bot .. Your wrong!!

Personally I rather spend my time on more constructive methods and actually spend time with my customers and dealing with them on a personal level.

James

[Fabian Tan]

Traffic exchanges can work...I get 10-20 subscribers per day from them after working on them recently.

But I don't surf a single page myself. You'll see why soon.

The 'secrets' of traffic exchanges are:

1. Use a squeeze page, build a list of subscribers. Because people only have 15-20 seconds to see your page, selling immediately doesn't work on TE's. A super short curiosity driven squeeze page works. I find just collecting the email address (without the first name) also improves sign-up rates.

2. Give away a free product on either traffic generation or list building, since most of your target audience are either looking for traffic or subscribers

3. Increase the conversion rate of your squeeze page

4. DON'T surf manually. As someone else has mentioned, that produces minimum wage results. Buy credits. Put the system on autopilot.

5. Build a large downline. With a huge downline, you'll be building up your credits on autopilot. After building up momentum, your system will just grow and grow and you'll be getting subscribers daily for less than $1 per lead.

Fabian

[Jon Olson]

Ya like article marketing and SEO like the other MILLIONS in this business.

LOL

Damn skippy I make money from owning them. It's called a membership site and it's what pays my bills.

BUT!

I have never used anything but traffic exchanges in more than a decade of online business. All I use to build my mailing list is the traffic exchanges.

Use them for list building and name branding, you are in good shape...

Try to 'market your Pulitzer prize articles....Epic fail!

[Soren Jordansen]

Originally Posted by Fabian Tan

Traffic exchanges can work...I get 10-20 subscribers per day from them after working on them recently.

But I don't surf a single page myself. You'll see why soon.

The 'secrets' of traffic exchanges are:

1. Use a squeeze page, build a list of subscribers. Selling immediately doesn't work on TE's.

2. Give away a free product on either traffic generation or list building, since most of your target audience are either looking for traffic or subscribers

3. Increase the conversion rate of your squeeze page

4. DON'T surf manually. As someone else has mentioned, that produces minimum wage results. Buy credits. Put the system on autopilot.

5. Build a large downline. With a huge downline, you'll be building up your credits on autopilot. After building up momentum, your system will just grow and grow and you'll be getting subscribers daily for less than $1 per lead.

Fabian

Now there's a breath of fresh air... Brilliant post!

I would however strike #5 - building downlines to get free credits
rarely gives a good ROI. You could have sent that traffic somewhere
else and used the profit to buy more traffic.

[Doug English]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

The ones that make the money from those useless programs are that owners because people get suckered into paying a monthly fee thiking it will help them. Fact is you can pay your monthly fee and have 100,000 credits a month, if 50% of the membership is using bots then guess what ... They dont see your ads no matter how pretty or how hyped up they are.

That just isn't true James.

I own one of the more popular safelists. I sell a maximum of 3 'contact solo' ads per day. These usually sell out every day, but as of late I've had a few open slots. So I've been sending my own ads out when all 3 positions are filled.

I sent one out a few days ago for a PDC product...got 5 sales at 20 bucks a pop (my cut).
The ads were 18.95 when I sent that. Thats 100 bucks from what would have been an 18.95 spend from a typical safelist 'user', not an owner. And that was for about 2 minutes of effort - me checking the PDC marketplace, finding an ad, copy and paste. No pre-sell, nothing. Just using whatever text I found on the standard sales page.


Actually I just increased the price of my solo ads because I've realized that I can make more by using them myself vs the price that I can sell them for.

Had an open slot today...sent an ad for a CB product. Its only been a few hours since the ad went out, but already 44 bucks. Again, about 2 minutes worth of effort on my part.

Can you show me another way to at LEAST double your money based on 2 minutes of work? Can you write an article in 2 minutes? Submit to hundreds of blogs? Can you perform some SEO on your sites in 2 minutes?

To take this even further, this is actually NOT the way to use traffic exchanges and safelists - this is the lazy persons way, sending someone directly to another sales page....and even THAT works...

[Fabian Tan]

Originally Posted by Soren Jordansen

Now there's a breath of fresh air... Brilliant post!

I would however strike #5 - building downlines to get free credits
rarely gives a good ROI. You could have sent that traffic somewhere
else and used the profit to buy more traffic.

Soren,

What I do is refer my subscribers to the exchanges one-time and then move on...

Another tactic I use is to use viral reports that have multiple links in them

Fabian

[Soren Jordansen]

Originally Posted by Fabian Tan

Soren,

What I do is refer my subscribers to the exchanges one-time and then move on...

Another tactic I use is to use viral reports that have multiple links in them

Fabian

If it's a backend thing like in reports or on your thank you/bonus pages
then it's fine - but an email to your subcribers... just saying you can do
better than that.

Of course there are also affiliate commissions to be factored in - but
if it's only for credits, I would say don't do it.

I own a TE btw... I know what people get from downlines - just buying
credits is far better - as long as you know your conversion rate and CPA.

Originally Posted by Doug English

That just isn't true James.

I own one of the more popular safelists. I sell a maximum of 3 'contact solo' ads per day. These usually sell out every day, but as of late I've had a few open slots. So I've been sending my own ads out when all 3 positions are filled.

I sent one out a few days ago for a PDC product...got 5 sales at 20 bucks a pop (my cut).
The ads were 18.95 when I sent that. Thats 100 bucks from what would have been an 18.95 spend from a typical safelist 'user', not an owner. And that was for about 2 minutes of effort - me checking the PDC marketplace, finding an ad, copy and paste. No pre-sell, nothing. Just using whatever text I found on the standard sales page.


Actually I just increased the price of my solo ads because I've realized that I can make more by using them myself vs the price that I can sell them for.

Had an open slot today...sent an ad for a CB product. Its only been a few hours since the ad went out, but already 44 bucks. Again, about 2 minutes worth of effort on my part.

Can you show me another way to at LEAST double your money based on 2 minutes of work? Can you write an article in 2 minutes? Submit to hundreds of blogs? Can you perform some SEO on your sites in 2 minutes?

To take this even further, this is actually NOT the way to use traffic exchanges and safelists - this is the lazy persons way, sending someone directly to another sales page....and even THAT works...

What you quoted me on was referring to surf exchanges (not safelist) "clicking your fingers off" as the OP asked about.

Safelist I have no use for, but thats me...

James

[Fabian Tan]

Originally Posted by Soren Jordansen

If it's a backend thing like in reports or on your thank you/bonus pages
then it's fine - but an email to your subcribers... just saying you can do
better than that.

Of course there are also affiliate commissions to be factored in - but
if it's only for credits, I would say don't do it.

I own a TE btw... I know what people get from downlines - just buying
credits is far better - as long as you know your conversion rate and CPA.

Point noted Soren

Fabian

[Doug English]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

What you quotes me on was referring to surf exchanges (not safelist) "clicking your fingers off" as the OP asked about.

James

No, this is what I was quoting you about...

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Traffic Exchanges are a waste of time, Oh My last time I even visited one of those site was like 5 or 6 years ago.. They are a waste of time and energy.

If you like to waste time and make no money:
* Link Echanges
* Surf Exchanges
* Anything PTR
* FFA Link Pages
* Safe List
* Top List

I would never even think about clicking traffic exchange clicks for 5-6 hours a day either...I own a safelist and I also don't click safelist credit links. All safelists and traffic exchanges have 'paid' options. Who says you have to click all day? Do you click on ads all day to have your ad show up in Google's sponsored ad positions?

My safelist delivered over 400 thousand site visits last month, and thats just from the 'incentive' credit links. People do click them, and the people who click them are often the new users who haven't already been bombarded with a million 'make money online' schemes and programs. What marketer could ask for a better audience than that?

[Robert Puddy]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

You should not assume people do not know how to use them, I do know as I dealt with the useless things years ago when I was stupid and did not know how to work smart.

The ones that make the money from those useless programs are that owners because people get suckered into paying a monthly fee thiking it will help them. Fact is you can pay your monthly fee and have 100,000 credits a month, if 50% of the membership is using bots then guess what ... They dont see your ads no matter how pretty or how hyped up they are.

Oh I know, someone will say you can't use a bot .. Your wrong!!

Personally I rather spend my time on more constructive methods and actually spend time with my customers and dealing with them on a personal level.

James

I'm not assuming anything, I know you dont know how to use them

I continue to get 3500 new subscribers a month from traffic exchanges, and every time this comes up I laugh at those people who argue they dont work

I have built 3 six figure business using only leads gotten from using TE's

I built a site for my grandson which is only promoted in 5 exchanges he has a list of 1200 plus and made close to 5k in 6 months, once a month i go top up his credits and let them run. 10 minutes work each month

As to the Bots, sure people try to cheat the system were smart enough to catch them and delete them in the first day of activity.

You can bleat, whine and cry you couldnt make them work till your blue in the face, but thats all it is your not smart enough to make them work.

Robert

[Mr McDonald]

Am open to suggestions but i have never had any success wit TE's. Ideas would be great.

Originally Posted by Jon Olson

Ya like article marketing and SEO like the other MILLIONS in this business.

LOL

Damn skippy I make money from owning them. It's called a membership site and it's what pays my bills.

BUT!

I have never used anything but traffic exchanges in more than a decade of online business. All I use to build my mailing list is the traffic exchanges.

Use them for list building and name branding, you are in good shape...

Try to 'market your Pulitzer prize articles....Epic fail!

I notice your site does not accept SSL websites ... Hmm too bad, I was actually going to run a test for the OP and pay for it.

James

[joelraitt]

I have a feeling you could spend your time doing a lot better things! Is that traffic even targeted or are they all doing the same thing as you? Just clicking away?

[Jon Olson]

Squeeze pages usually aren't SSL are they? I don't know, I'm just a TE dude =)

But drop me a line if you sign up, I'll give you some extra bonuses to test it out.

Originally Posted by Jon Olson

Squeeze pages usually aren't SSL are they? I don't know, I'm just a TE dude =)

But drop me a line if you sign up, I'll give you some extra bonuses to test it out.

My entire site is under SSL ...

James

[mylootnow7]

If you going to use traffic exchanges, it's best to use the 1's that benefit you the most which I'm doing. You get paid for all those hours of clicking and hovering. It always best ta set aside a day or 2 to click & get traffic as well as have other available avenues to focus your advertising efforts like solo ads, article marketing, etc. Good luck

[Barbara Eyre]

The best way to promote via traffic exchanges are with a squeeze page (an optin box for your newsletter/mailing list) and with a splash page ... a quick-loading, above-the-fold page that teases the surfer to come to your site. Fabian alluded to this in his post above.

So, James, you can use one of those methods and not worry about the whole SSL part.

Honestly though, I use TEs and didn't realize they did not accept SSL protected sites. I swear I've seen https sites, like Amazon, etc.

Barbara,
My entire site is SSL, its secured.. Its not just a few pages or the members area. The entire site is under SSL. So anything on that domain will use SSL.

As for a TE allowing SSL, that would be the coding of the script. It must be coded to allow SSL sites and if not then SSL sites can not be used because the system only notices a redirect.

I already understand exactly how they work, I have coded TE scripts in the past.

James

[ebizman87]

Originally Posted by Fabian Tan

Traffic exchanges can work...I get 10-20 subscribers per day from them after working on them recently.

But I don't surf a single page myself. You'll see why soon.

The 'secrets' of traffic exchanges are:

2. Give away a free product on either traffic generation or list building, since most of your target audience are either looking for traffic or subscribers


Fabian

To be honest I'm using 3 TE programs to promote each other..

Program A promotes Program B
Program B promotes Program C
Program C promotes Program A

All those programs are slightly different version of EA program. The main benefits of that program is TRAFFIC.It offers traffic to users.
I use trafficswarm to promote another TE program that offers the same benefits...and the same goes to other TE programs

To tell you guys the truth, I'm just testing it..I'm looking for other possibilities to drive more traffic.This is not my sole traffic generation tactic.If it yields a GOOD conversion rate and helped me build a good list,I might buy more credits and set it on autopilot.

Some of the experts here suggested me to buy credits, but I'm not looking for any paid method.What I'm doing now is to test whether this things works for FREE or not.If the FREE method works well,I might buy credits!!

Thanks for the input Fabian and all the marketers here!!

[johnmags]

The problem with Traffic Exchange is most people view your site just to earn credits. Although, you can get poor quality affiliate referrals if you have a great sales page. Most often, traffic you get from these traffic exchange are not highly targeted visitors; hence poor conversion rate or CTR.

In traffic exchange, you are like a salesman selling to your fellow salesmaen. Its useless. Why dont you redirect your efforts to direct consumers. You can attract them through article marketing, forum and social network marketing, and so on...except traffic exchange.

[anteck]

Can't imagine A Traffic Exchange working for anyone but people who would be interested in making money off a Traffic Exchange!

IMHO

[discrat]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet
What you quotes me on was referring to surf exchanges (not safelist) "clicking your fingers off" as the OP asked about.

James

No, this is what I was quoting you about...


Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet
Traffic Exchanges are a waste of time, Oh My last time I even visited one of those site was like 5 or 6 years ago.. They are a waste of time and energy.

If you like to waste time and make no money:
* Link Echanges
* Surf Exchanges
* Anything PTR
* FFA Link Pages
* Safe List
* Top List






Ouch, someone just got called out !!

[Josh Abbott]

Originally Posted by johnmags

The problem with Traffic Exchange is most people view your site just to earn credits. Although, you can get poor quality affiliate referrals if you have a great sales page. Most often, traffic you get from these traffic exchange are not highly targeted visitors; hence poor conversion rate or CTR.

In traffic exchange, you are like a salesman selling to your fellow salesmaen. Its useless. Why dont you redirect your efforts to direct consumers. You can attract them through article marketing, forum and social network marketing, and so on...except traffic exchange.

You're right, a traffic exchange is full of other salesmen. How much more targeted can an audience be?

[GarrieWilson]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

What you quoted me on was referring to surf exchanges (not safelist) "clicking your fingers off" as the OP asked about.

Safelist I have no use for, but thats me...

James

James,

If you re-reaad what you said in your first post, you named safe lists as "doesnt work" too.

Traffic Exchanges are a waste of time, Oh My last time I even visited one of those site was like 5 or 6 years ago.. They are a waste of time and energy.

If you like to waste time and make no money:
* Link Echanges
* Surf Exchanges
* Anything PTR
* FFA Link Pages
* Safe List
* Top List

Just because YOU can't make them work, doesn't mean others can't.

Steven W. does very well with FFA pages.

I made about $100 today w/ safe lists that I posted to 3 days ago.

Every system works IF you know how to make them work. Most people don't.

[GarrieWilson]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

My entire site is under SSL ...

James

It gives me a SSL security error.

Also, your sites phpmembersscript.com and wordpresssecured.com are NOT SSL by default. So nothing holding your test back for the OP.

[wbrant]

Ok , so those that are saying exchanges are full of others that are clicking trying to get traffic to their offers-

Guess what you are right, exchanges are full of new marketers that are trying to learn how to make money online.

In fact there are hundreds, scrtch that thousands , of new members coming into them daily.

So if you have a better way of getting traffic or of doing business guess where there are a lot of new possible prospects everyday?

Also most new members are going to come into an exchange and post their affiliate link to what ever program told them to join in the first place.

So in a sea of standard affiliate links its easy to stand out with a squeeze page that is crafted to get their attention and get them on your list.

If you cant figure out to do with a list of brand new marketers looking for guidance then you are in the wrong business.

It's very simple, it does work and there are plenty of people actually doing it.

James if you really want to test it out I will set you up an account on my server where you can set up some non SSL pages just shoot me a PM

Originally Posted by wbrant

James if you really want to test it out I will set you up an account on my server where you can set up some non SSL pages just shoot me a PM

Thanks but I have 2 servers.. I could use another domain name easily (lord knows I own enough) but did not want to, I wanted to use the SSL one...

James

Originally Posted by GarrieWilson

James,

If you re-reaad what you said in your first post, you named safe lists as "doesnt work" too.

Just because YOU can't make them work, doesn't mean others can't.

Steven W. does very well with FFA pages.

I made about $100 today w/ safe lists that I posted to 3 days ago.

Every system works IF you know how to make them work. Most people don't.

Garrie,
That is my opinion - I stopped wasting my time with that stuff years ago and when I did .. I made money, matter fact I built an entire business that pays all my bills and then some. I did this because I stopped wasting my time with useless methods.

If they work for someone, then more power to them.. Personally I will spend my time doing more constructive things.

Now granted I am a website developer and not a marketer, so keep that in mind when you read my opinion. Just because it works for one type of business does not mean it works for all.

Originally Posted by GarrieWilson

It gives me a SSL security error.

This would be your system not the SSL, there is nothing wrong with the SSL..


James

[Jerry Reeder]

Originally Posted by ebizman87

To be honest I'm using 3 TE programs to promote each other..

Program A promotes Program B
Program B promotes Program C
Program C promotes Program A

All those programs are slightly different version of EA program. The main benefits of that program is TRAFFIC.It offers traffic to users.

That is a big big mistake many people make when
they first start using exchanges. It's really not
surprising when you consider all the promotional
you see in the affiliate toolboxes.

But if you ask any of the traffic exchange owners
contributing to this thread who they payout the
most commissions to; they will say, people who
promote traffic exchanges on the backend.

The steps Fabian laid out will work for anybody
promoting stuff surfers want to buy. And surfers
want marketing stuff and don't let anybody tell
you different.

But you have to get them inside your sphere of
influence first.

[GarrieWilson]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Now granted I am a website developer and not a marketer, so keep that in mind when you read my opinion. Just because it works for one type of business does not mean it works for all.

Then it's not made for you and you telling people it doesnt work when you are not a marketer is giving false information to people.

This would be your system not the SSL, there is nothing wrong with the SSL..

Atually, it's your site. You are loading something not on the SSL.

Garrie

[Jeff Henshaw]

One either can use TEs (Traffic Exchanges) to good effect, or one can not.

It's as simple as that. I will always use TEs, or as long as they are still effective - which they are FOR THE IM NICHE!

This post below (my bold by the way):

The problem with Traffic Exchange is most people view your site just to earn credits. Although, you can get poor quality affiliate referrals if you have a great sales page. Most often, traffic you get from these traffic exchange are not highly targeted visitors; hence poor conversion rate or CTR.

Posts such as this are very misleading to Warriors who have never used TEs. Look at some of the above: Sales Page!! Who on earth puts up a "sales page" on a TE? Or have I misread the post?

The traffic that you get is not "highly targeted". YES IT IS but to the IM niche.

I'm sorry if it seems like I am singling out particular posters, but just because some Warriors cannot make certain methods of promotion work for them, it does not mean that other Warriors will not be able to be successful with the same method.

I am NOT a TE owner, by the way, so I have no vested interests here. I just find them to be a free and cheap (if you want to pay) source of advertising - for the IM niche.

So if YOU personally can't get TEs to work for you - please just don't post negative reviews, unless of course, you are prepared to share detailed empirical evidence in your posts. Otherwise, all you are doing is potentially closing off to new and inexperienced Warriors an avenue that they could explore in order to build their business.

It may or may not work for them - just as it has or has not done for you.

But if you use TEs properly and target them to the correct market ... well I've already said it above!

Just my thoughts,
Jeff.

[glendower]

I think most of the people who are making alot of money with traffic exchange are the owners. You have read a couple of testimonies from TE owners such as Jon Olson and Robert Puddy who owns traffic exchange programs and are making full time income online but how often do you hear non owners making tons of money, not often or not at all.

If you are just some ordinary joe promoting this and that using traffic exchange, you are really wasting your time.

The real secret is owning a membership site such as traffic exchange but you have to know what you are doing plus it takes tons and tons of hard work.

Good luck.

Paul

Originally Posted by GarrieWilson

Then it's not made for you and you telling people it doesnt work when you are not a marketer is giving false information to people

Garrie

I gave no false information but why do you think only marketers use TE's ?? That is a false statement right there. There are many Work at Home Moms, PTR, PTC, PT Anything, that also use TE's...

I understand and know what I talk about because I have built the freaking scripts from the ground up for clients. It is my "personal opinion" that they are a waste of time and useless unless you are the owner.

Last time I checked I had the right to voice my opinion especially over something I do fully understand. With that said, I am first and foremost a website developer but I have created many successful internet marketing products. I hold a google position #6 out of 130 million results with "marketer" in the key-phrase (and this is climbing). I do not consider myself a marketer though which again is my right to choose to call myself one or not.

Just because I do not call myself one does not mean I do not know anything.

James

[jasonl70]

I'm a ppc marketer, so I am not averse to paying for traffic. Plus, I've recently started dabbling with the IM/MMO niche, which seems to be where these TE's are supposedly most effective.

Robert Puddy is someone whose posts and opinions I always give serious thought towards. So I will suspend my doubts and perhaps even put some money towards testing this in the near future..