11 Broadcast Emails In 24 Hours From The Same Marketer - Are You Kidding !

[Scott Allan]

Hi Warriors,

We all know the money is in the list, more importantly our relationship with our list, but this is just ridiculous.

I opted in to this particular marketers list about 3 months ago, the marketer in question is quite a famous lady within the mlm niche. At the time I opted in, I was interested in a traffic exchange program she was promoting (which turned out to be garbage.)

Ideally I would've unsubscribed from this list ages ago but I use her emails now as inspiration on how not to treat my subscribers.

This particular marketer has never once offered anything of value (not to me at least) not one piece of advice, training or otherwise. I am only on ONE of her lists, not multiple. At the start I would get up to 3 emails a day, telling, thats right telling not advising me to join this program and that program.

Her ads and titles are the same every single time. They have never once changed. The emails have slowly increased over the last few months until today when I was hit with, wait for it....

11 emails.

All within a 24 hour period. All promoting a program.

Here is the 24 hour breakdown.

4 emails promoting one program (using the exact same copy)
3 emails promoting two other programs each (using the exact same copy)
1 email promoting 1 other program.

Now if I was on multiple lists for this marketer I could understand a little, but I am on one list only. She claims to have made alot of people wealthy, but if these are her methods she can keep them. Suffice to say enough was enough and I have finally hit the unsubscribe button, its just not funny anymore.

So the moral of my story, build a RELATIONSHIP with your list, don't spam them to death.

Oh yeah, and if you come across (no names, no packdrill) a blonde Texan lady who calls herself the "queen of mlm", be prepared.

To your success,

Scott Allan

[Gary Jinks]

Certainly seems excessive.

Maybe she had a bug in her auto responder. It's happened to me before.

Gary

[Scott Allan]

Originally Posted by Gary Jinks

Certainly seems excessive.

Maybe she had a bug in her auto responder. It's happened to me before.

Gary

Hey Gary,

If it was a one off I would've written it off as a glitch, but this has been steadily increasing daily for 3 months now.

I'd understand if she was promoting a major launch, but some of these things have been around 12 - 18 months plus.

Scott

[Oscar D]

I would just unsubscribe.

That is crazy - I hate it.

Basically SPAM

[Ron Douglas]

Sounds like a desperate cry for money. Not all that glitters is gold.

[TeddyP]

Man I complain about Pagan and Vitale's email rate - 11 in 24 hours is just ridiculous.

I wonder how many sales she made with that tactic.

[jasondinner]

Originally Posted by Scott Allan

I'd understand if she was promoting a major launch, but some of these things have been around 12 - 18 months plus.
Scott

While I am not disputing the excessiveness of receiving 12 emails in one day from
the same person promoting 3 different things with the same message, I do not
see how promoting something that is 12 - 18 months old is wrong.

I promote stuff that is 5 years old. Is that bad?

[Floyd Fisher]

Originally Posted by Gary Jinks

Certainly seems excessive.

Maybe she had a bug in her auto responder. It's happened to me before.

Gary

Or he could be somehow subscribed to multiple lists she maintains.

It's simple. You purchase something, you're put on another list. Sign up on a squeeze page they own, and now you're on yet another.

Then you claim a freebie, and you're on a another list.

I've got that exact scenario with a couple of marketers. Problem is, if I go and do a mass unsubscribe, god knows what I'm deleting. So I just grin and bear it when I get a bazillion emails from those two (and laugh at how wonderful technology is).

It's definitely a downside to list segmentation.

[jasondinner]

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

Or he could be somehow subscribed to multiple lists she maintains.

It's simple. You purchase something, you're put on another list. Sign up on a squeeze page they own, and now you're on yet another.

Then you claim a freebie, and you're on a another list.

I've got that exact scenario with a couple of marketers. Problem is, if I go and do a mass unsubscribe, god knows what I'm deleting. So I just grin and bear it when I get a bazillion emails from those two (and laugh at how wonderful technology is).

It's definitely a downside to list segmentation.

Yeah, that happens in my inbox too from several marketers.

I don't let it get to me either.

[TelegramSam]

Jeez. She nags more than my wife...

(Sorry, my wife doesn't really nag..."Just kidding dear...Oh...Ouch"...............)

[Paid Surveys]

That's why i NEVER sign up to email newsletters. Most of the stuff is junk and if i want to read something then i'll find it online myself.

[Scott Allan]

Hi Jason,
No of course not I couldn't agree more, the bottom line is that if something works, or its of value its never out of fashion so to speak no matter whether it was created 5 minutes or 5 years ago.

The reason I mentioned the programs in question being 12 - 18 months old was more along the lines of you would expect to see a surge of a promotion before a major launch not necessarily 4 of the exact same email on the same day promoting a program of that age.

By no means the age of a program diminish its worth automatically, its just that these were "launch frenzy" type of emails that I have received fairly consistently for the last 3 months or so all using the same copy. When I did my research I determined one of the programs was launched at least 18 months ago (with no major changes or upgrades in that time as far as I can tell) and the opening headline is always the same Program ***** Just Launched Go Go Go.

And finally to clarify to anyone that may be curious, to the best of my knowledge the person in question does NOT contribute or is a part of WF. Although she has been mentioned once or twice in recent threads.

Thanks
Scott

[Scott Allan]

Originally Posted by Paid Surveys

That's why i NEVER sign up to email newsletters. Most of the stuff is junk and if i want to read something then i'll find it online myself.

I agree and disagree with that statement.

There are plenty of marketers online who's sole purpose is to get you on their list (like the one Ive mentioned) purely with the intent to make offer after offer to buy their ****. Most of the time you are right, if you have the time and persistence, you can spend time on forums such as this and receive a wealth of information free. But being a subscriber to a number of lists myself they generally serve a few different purposes for me.

First of all the issue I mentioned to start this thread is pretty extreme, but it does seem to be becoming more prevalent with some marketers.

The lists I am on at present offer the value that I seek, for example their opt in offer was what I needed at that particular time, the course they offered as part of the opt in was valuable to me or in the case of someone like Marlon Sanders, I just love the way he writes and he has great integrity so I look to learn not always about what he is teaching me but "how" he is teaching me.

They are also a great way to learn about some new products about to hit the market and generally get the pick of any bonuses that they may offer to add value to my business.

In my experience the key is to be choosy. And as my late father always said, son, you can learn anything from anybody from the town drunk to the ceo. Your job is to choose what that is.

Scott

[jlbraaten]

There are some pretty great examples in here of what NOT to do. I'm getting the basics down and am trying to help some marketers at work understand the fundamentals as well.

[igorhelpsyousucceed]

It is hard to imagine someone
being stupid enough to do that, I would
most defenitely unsubscribe, however, I don't
think this was intended...

Igor

[Ron Douglas]

Originally Posted by article_marketer

Id report that as spam and report them to their ISP.

Or just unsubscribe.

[Shakul]

I think she tried to send emails to her list, and then she stopped it and then she by mistake started sending emails again...or may be some bug...

[Gambbit]

Well, perhaps, you've 'accidentally' subscribed to more than one list. Maybe you bought a thing, opt in for anything that you don't remember now.

11 in 24 hours seems too high for someone to send in their right minds. It's common sense that it'll piss people off.

[magic456]

Hmmm Some list for those lonely days

[jasonl70]

Originally Posted by article_marketer

Id report that as spam and report them to their ISP.

great.. you realize of course that it is NOT spam.. and you are in fact making a false allegation that someone is committing a FEDERAL CRIME. Someone is actually breaking the law here, and it isn't her... It's something called libel and defamation of character.

come ON people - unsubscribe. Do not make false allegations against people just because you do not like the frequency or content of their emails.

Yes, I think 11 emails in a day in totally insane... but if that's her model, so be it. People can just unsub, and over the long term she'll know what works best for her business.

[GuruGazette]

You know, email does not start at point A and end up at point B with nothing in between. It actually hops through any number of systems/servers/networks in between where it's sent and where it's delivered.

So if any one of those connection points was having problems, it could cause something like this.

So it *could* have been her. It *could* have been the AR system, it *could* have been any number of things.

[Wayne Duggan]

Seems like a case of laughable desperation.

Reminds me of a few months back.......

I subscribed to a well known marketers list to evaluate a sales system that pitches one of their products to my list.

The next morning after checking the mail, to my horror more than 20 identical messages containing an affiliate link for mailing to my list had arrived. Methinks not enough care taken to set the A/R sequence. I did not unsubscribe. Funny though....Subject line was "don't flush" ....maybe embarrassment, but no further mail since then.

[sbucciarel]

I received 5 in one day from someone that I had just joined the list. I unsubscribed. When asked why I unsubscribe, I simply told him that whether I opted in or not, 5 in one day is just spam.

[Scott Allan]

For the record everybody,

I am not suggesting this particular marketer was or is doing anything illegal,
that is for brighter minds than mine to determine, and yes I have unsubscribed from her list.

Yes it could be possible that there is a "bug" in her system that has allowed that to happen, but as mentioned at the start of the thread this has been steadily on the increase over the course of 3 months or so until the 11 email day in question.

As mentioned the only real reason I stayed subscribed for that long at all was to use it as an "in my face" reminder of what not to do. The situation became ridiculous to me so I unsubscribed. Simple.

Before I jumped in at the deep end and posted I did a bit of background reviewing to see if this was just me or whether this is a common business practice for her email marketing, the general response was yes this has happened to many of her subscribers.

Am I an adult ? Yes. Can I unsubscribe if I don't like the content? Of course.

The point of my argument was not necessarily to "out" a particular marketer, but as a very general reminder that if all you send to your subscribers is...
Buy my stuff
Buy my stuff
Buy my stuff

Then in most cases and definitely mine you will tend to illicit a very different response.

Scott

[Troy_Phillips]

I got a complaint from a gentleman on time that he received 7 emails from me in 24 hours (all the same) . The dude had signed up for every freebie I had given out for like 3 months .

First I thought about telling him to quit kicking the tire and just drive off in the car I had built for him a piece at a time .

I then decided to look at myself first . I was hitting the global broadcast button and sending the the same email to a bunch of related but different list .

I started looking at the freebie that got them opted in and really started making my offers super relevant to the freebie . Conversions were a lot better even though I was sending out seven different emails to seven different list now .

I no longer even think about giving away a freebie unless I can directly relate one low end , one mid range and one high end product to it .