How many subscribers before I start doing Ad Swaps?

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How many subscribers do you suggest I have before I start doing Ad Swaps? I only have 40 subscribers so far, and should be running another solo ad pretty soon.

Also since I am buying solo ads how many subscribers should I expect per 100 clicks?Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author bwizard
    i would say 2%
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    • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
      Originally Posted by bwizard View Post

      i would say 2%
      Thank you for answering. I just don't understand your answer. 2% what?
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      • Profile picture of the author Shane F
        Depending on how targeted to weight loss the list you are buying the solo from anywhere from 30-60%.

        I consider a good solo anything over 40% for myself personally in the IM niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
          Originally Posted by Shane F View Post

          Depending on how targeted to weight loss the list you are buying the solo from anywhere from 30-60%.

          I consider a good solo anything over 40% for myself personally in the IM niche.
          So would that also apply to how many clicks I can provide? If I have a list of 100, would you say that 40% would click through, if its really targetted
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    You can swap even with smaller lists. Just make sure you can match your partners clicks. I would probably get you list up to 100 or so before swapping.
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    • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
      Originally Posted by absolutelee View Post

      You can swap even with smaller lists. Just make sure you can match your partners clicks. I would probably get you list up to 100 or so before swapping.
      How many clicks do you think a list of 100 can get? Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shane F
        Test yourself to an affiliate offer and see how many clicks you can get. Depends on the offer, email copy, relationship you have with your list. May have to mail the list more than once to get 40 clicks off 100 subscribers but won't know until you start mailing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
          Originally Posted by Shane F View Post

          Test yourself to an affiliate offer and see how many clicks you can get. Depends on the offer, email copy, relationship you have with your list. May have to mail the list more than once to get 40 clicks off 100 subscribers but won't know until you start mailing.
          Definitely will do some testing. How many clicks do you usually get?
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          • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
            Just do the math. if you feel that ad-swaps is the best use of your time with 100 people on your list, go for it!

            If you feel that your time could be far better spent building your list some other way (hint hint) try that instead!

            Here are approximate numbers to shoot for in the IM niche:

            Opt In Rate > 40%

            Click Through Rate > 10%

            So then, if you are swapping a list of 100, you could expect 10 clicks to your squeeze page and 4 people to opt in to your list.

            Thing is, with Ad-Swaps, the lists that you are swapping with are often completely burnt out, so your numbers probably won't be that good.

            Say maybe 2 opt ins. Is that worth your time for set-up, communication, tracking, a subscription to Safe-Swaps and everything else that goes into making a swap successful?

            You are the only one who can determine that.

            Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author William2010
    It also depends on the niche you're in..MMO niche has a lower response than Lose weight niche. On 100 leads.. you can get anywhere from 5 to 10 even 20 clicks.
    It all depends on you.. you can get even higher numbers...it all depends on your copywriting skills, on the funnel you created to get the leads...
    I personally wouldn't start swapping before i would hit 500 leads at least. Why?
    Because once i would start swapping the list would grow faster..because i would be able to send more clicks at once.. from one email. You don't want to bomb your list with 2-3 emails per day from the beginning..it will die before you can make anything with it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
    Great information! Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    I vote for NEVER.

    Why do you want to give away your subscribers and have them on even more lists?

    They likely already get too many emails as it is and you want to dilute their attention even more by giving them to someone else?

    Meanwhile you get another marketers low quality subscribers that they can't make any money from (that's why they don't care about selling and swapping them).

    You're all just swapping low quality subs around and around. Most of these people are likely freebie seekers who never take action or buy.

    Work on building a quality list of subs and preferably a buyers list.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexnob
    Originally Posted by Freelancing10 View Post

    How many subscribers do you suggest I have before I start doing Ad Swaps? I only have 40 subscribers so far, and should be running another solo ad pretty soon.

    Also since I am buying solo ads how many subscribers should I expect per 100 clicks?Thank you.
    Dear, if you don't build relationship with your leads, but just do ad swap/solo instead, I will say CTR would be <5% (you send broadcast to 1000 leads and will expect to get max: 50 clicks)

    Normally, you should wait until your leads number reach 1000 (2000 is preferred) before you start doing ad swap.
    Reason: to assure you can get at least 1 complaint without any problems (most of Autoresponer service require complaint rate should be lower than 1/1000)
    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rohith Reddy
    Hello,
    It actually depends on how we build relationship with our subscribers.In my starting days,I bought solos and had around 750 subscribers before swapping.I tested my list for click rate for two days.It was giving 30 clicks per mail.Then I started swapping as well to build list.I made it till 1200 subscribers in next 10 days with few product sales while swapping and re-invested the money back for solos.
    Even I had the same question how much click rate & open rate do you expect and all..But no one can give exact answer for that.It depends on our marketing style and how we build relationship with the list seriously.Make sure you send mails to them everyday.I do mail to my list 5 times in two days time.People are signed up for so many lists.They will be getting lot of mails everyday.It won't work out well if you send only one or two mails everyday until you build relationship with them.Before I used to send 3 mails per day and now I am sending 5 per 2 days.It is working for so good.They believe me now
    Hope it helps you.
    Sorry for poor English
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  • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
    So are many of you saying that AdSwaps/Solo Ads don't work?
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  • Profile picture of the author javan01
    Get off this forum and go see for yourself if it works or not!
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    There's no set number. Focus instead on how responsive your list is. Pay attention to the IP trails of people who sign up via swaps. You might be surprised at what you'd find. Consider yourself warned.

    Hint: the best way to grow a list is through your own content and networks.
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