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Mike, Great post and free report. Is there a reason you use broad rather than phrase match when you count the searches per month? Also, if you don't see any web 2.0 on page 1 (ie squidoo, goarticles, ezinearticles etc) would you still do it if the intitle results are below 700? Finally, you didn't mention hubpages- do you find that a good web 2.0 propery to use? Debbie |
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This is a very good post. I have a few articles at the top of Google. Now I know how they got there, because Ezine Article featured them at one stage and it gave them some authority. I wish that someone knew the seret to having your article feeatured on Ezine you'd be on a winning steak every time. |
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I want a good keyword researcher, not for min sites but for tech articles. Hit me up if you've got those skillz!
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Just to be different, I'll answer your questions from last to first (must be the summer heat!) ![]() I avoid HubPages like the plague. They shoot down a lot of my pages that have even one affiliate link. They have gotten stricter in terms of linking. My philosophy is that I can deal with similar PR Web 2.0 properties with less headache! ![]() If I don't see any Web 2.0 properties on Page 1, I look to see what's there currently. If you have aged, highly-backlinked PR 8 - 10 properties, it will be very hard to outrank them. If you have a "free for all", meaning various low to medium PR pages that can be "outbacklinked", then go for it. No particular reason why I use broad but basically it works for me. I could probably develop a criteria for phrase match but if it ain't broke, I'm not going to fix it. | |
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This thread is just giving me the boost I needed to get my articles working for me. There is a lot of information for newbies like me to process but i am very keen to grasp it all. I currently have about 40 articles out there, some getting lots of interest, some not. I was submitting manually and therefore only to about 4 sites. I have now decided to get into it all much more seriously and have purchased automatic article submitter. I have registered with many article sites and am now ready to apply the most stand out techniques I have got from this thread (I'll need to go back a re-read the thread at some stage too as there is just so much I am sure i am missing). So just to make sure I have got it right:
So am I on the right track? |
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Also, what is your take Mike on choosing your particular keyword phrase you are trying to rank in? I have been told to use one that is less competative, even least competative. I have chosen "Successful Kids Parties" for my site which is now listed at #1 for that phrase in a google search. Does this mean i should now be trying to rank on one that is a little more competative?
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Your site does rank high for "successful kids parties" but the problem is that it is not a phrase that others are using. My suggestion would be is to research which phrases that others are currently using in your niche and from there you can start to build your content. Let Google make it easy for you! Head over to: Google Keyword Tool Click on the "Website Content" button and enter your website address. Then, click on the "Get Keyword Ideas" button. Voila! Now you have keyword phrases related to your site that others are entering into Google every month. Start from there and you will be on your way. (My report covers the steps in more detail so you can refer to that if you're still stuck.) | |
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Getting your article across as many different directories as possible is good just as long as you realize that it should be secondary to your main goal which is to get your articles in the top 3 of Google. You do that by using long tail keywords and backlinking. Once you write the article (or edit your old articles to be keyword friendly), you work every day to add backlinks to your article to get it to rise in the Google rankings, until it reaches the top 3. Now, while you work on each published article to get into the top 3, you should also try and leverage your articles by getting them on as many article directories as possible. That's definitely a good thing! By the way, when you put your article on multiple sites, you don't have to backlink to your original article...It would confuse your reader. Just link to your affiliate product. So remember that cracking the top 3 in Google comes first. | |
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So all my articles should link to my site (this makes sense, the idea that backlinking one article to another confusing readers had already crossed my mind coz it confused me, lol). Then once I have got the article all juiced up with keywords I should use other methods of gaining backlinks to my articles, such as blog comments etc? Have i got the right idea now? | |
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Hi Mike, me again, I have gone to Google Keyword Tool as suggested but cannot see the link 'website content'? later that evening....... ahh, I think that feature is not showing because I have never actually set up a campaign before and apparently you nned to do that to activate the account. DOH! |
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wowsa, sorry to be taking over this thread.... just set up an official adwords campaign and put it on pause in order to access the 'web content' tool as mentioned above, but when I went to the keyword tool, 'web content' was still missing. Hmmmmm, lots of head scratching going on. then I noticed in the list of tools that a 'new' tool is featured, the search based keyword tool, is this what your talking about mike? if so it was really really really useful so big thanks. I now know that the simple phrase 'kids parties' which I thought to be the most competative keyword is not as common or popular as 'Party Bags', and lo and behold I had just written an article on that very subject last week, booyeah! just thought i'd share |
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Fantastic info, OP! Observation: it is of course a good idea to pick a keyword phrase that is getting a decent amount of searches every month. Ranking well is extremely important, but if you rank well for a phrase that gets 3 searches a month that doesn't help you much. Question - how are y'all backlinking to your articles? Social bookmarking sites like Onlywire? I've had fantastic success writing articles linked to an adsense blog, but honestly, I've never used backlinking. As in, I've never backlinked to my articles. |
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This is really interesting Michael and your report has some great info. A few questions; I personally have a lot of articles that are very highly ranked over millions of results in Google (and have been for months) for very competitive keywords and I rarely use backlinks, however I do write them to be keyword rich. So with no backlinks how would you explain that? In your report you use keyword phrases with 1300 results but thats only 43 searches a day. I tend to look for phrases with 30,000 results or more and then look at competition. What is the max amount of daily searches you go for? Do you feel 30,000 is to much? You also mention using Yahoo answers and looking for active topics. How many open questions is to few? I am now entering a very competitive niche and found only 44 active topics at Yahoo using your criteria. Also in your report you mention that if certain places like eZines already have an article in the top Google results to go to a different directory. Yet I read from an article marketing guru on these forums that you WANT to use sites that are already in the tops for your article marketing for that topic because Google gives value more to some sites than others on certain topics. And if a certain directory is valued for those keywords (and in the tops at Google) one should use the same directory for their own article to increase chances of getting to the top of pile. Your thoughts appreciated. |
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LilBlackdress has raised some excellent points there. It is clear now that in my early work as an article marketer I had advice from some people who seemed to know what they were talking about, but in fact only knew the absolute basics. Mike's approach makes so much more sense and since reading his e-book I have found a fantastic formula I that now mean I can approach the task of writing articles in a systematic way...I'm pretty excited about this. But like LilBlackDress I often wonder where the balance is between finding phrases that are frequently searched and therefore worth writing about and ones that are not so competative as to make the task of getting a rank in the top three nigh on impossible....at least I think that is what you are wondering LBD? One thing I know for sure is that a lot of people have a different approach that they claim works for them, which makes it hard for us newbies to know who's advice to follow. PerryMyk says EA is junk, others say its the key to google ranking. Some say submit articles to squillions of sites, other say stick with the ones that matter and so on. Anyway, I too am particularly interested in your thoughts Mike on LBD's query about choosing where to put your article............geez, this is all so fascinating, thankyou all for rekindling my article writing desire |
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Also, when you say highly ranked, how high are you talking? Page 1...Page 5....Page 10? Some sites are fortunate enough to hover among the top 10 pages of Google without having to do much work to them. Unless you are on page 1 though, being on page 2 or 3 is equivalent to page 100 or 200. The hits drops off significantly after page 1. Quote:
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Quite a few gurus say to stick with the directories that already have a presence for that keyword phrase. They could be right. I am only writing from experience and my experience has always been that it has been extremely tough to rank an article from an article directory when two from that article directory are already showing up. Is it impossible? No. But I have had numerous cases where I could not crack the top 10 with an Ezine Article with a phrase that already has EzineArticles there....And yet, I will write almost the same exact article on GoArticles and it breaks through all the way to the top. The reason behind this is (which gurus of the opposite camp have preached ) that Google facors diversity in the search results. Maybe Google's perspective is that diverse domains in the search results mean a more rich experience for the end user. You could always test it out for yourself and see....But I figured that my experiences with it might save you the time! Still, it never hurts!
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I have page 1 results for a number of articles. In one case I have spots #1 and #2 for articles written using keywords that have tons of searches and literally millions of results. No backlinking or bookmarking on these. They went to the top almost right away and have stayed there for months. Also Google Pages 1-2 for tons of other keywords. I tend to look for keywords with around 30,000 searches per month so these are competitive and I rarely bookmark or link. In the past I have gotten keywords with less competition in Google on front page in position 3 or less and just did not get the traffic. A couple I also bookmarked and they stayed on first page but not in top 3. For me it seems to work better to target more competitive words and take a shot at them being very high up but if they land lower they still get traffic cus there are more searches. And it saves time because I don't have to write articles and direct them to the articles where hopefully they will then find my website. Instead they go directly to my article and hopefully my website or a website I am writing for. I like your idea of looking on Yahoo Answers for activity related to the content very much. I have used Yahoo Answers but not that way before. Using your method, it was really interesting to see the questions asked regarding the competitive niche I am going full blast into. It gave me ideas for a full line of articles to complement the site that I had never thought of! Thank you! BTW what is the best way to use the Yahoo Site Explorer? Can you explain a little on how that works? |
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Thanks for the info, much appreciated!
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Just enter your website address at the top and click the "Explore URL" button. Then on the next screen, under the Results area, click on the Inlinks button AND make sure that after "Show Inlinks:" you select "Except from this domain"....Now, you will get the number as well as a breakdown of the outside sites linking to your site. | |
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I strongly disagree with "google likes diversity"... If you want to get something to rank high, go with whats already ranking high (don't reinvent the wheel, or don't waste time trying to outguess Google!)
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Michael I tried that with Yahoo Site Explorer and it does not make sense to me. For example one of my sites (lets call it Site Y) has a bunch of links from another one of my sites where I mention it only once. Yet each time I wrote an article on Site X, Site Y shows up. I have Site Y as a link in the sidebar on Site X just one time. On most of the articles I wrote that are high in google they are on a content site (not google) and lumped in with the thousands of other articles on the site. I am unable to see individual links to them..is that because it is a nofollow site? |
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Try this video and see if it helps you:If you're still stuck, PM me and I'll se what I can do to help. It's possible. You can either google the name of the content site with the word "nofollow" to see if others have discussed it being a nofollow site. Or, you can look at the actual site's source code and do a "Find" for the word "nofollow". | |
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Hi Michael, The video restates what you said on how to look up links...and I do understand that. However how valid are the link results when you consider my X and Y example. I post a link to site Y on site X. I put the link in the sidebar. Every article I write on Site X shows up as a link to site Y in the Yahoo Site Explorer results, even though I only have the link there once (in the sidebar) and it is the same site. I guess when Yahoo Site Explorer spiders the article it picks up the same link as it is on the side bar. So doesn't that mess up the actual link results a lot because the link really only appears on the site one time? |
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Michael, I just read your free report and I gotta thank you for the to the point no fluff info you so eloquently mapped out. Great resource I will be going back to it on a regular basis. I have a couple Q's: In this method you are suggesting setting up my own domain and redirecting to my affiliate url. Will redirecting work? will I get the credit for a redirect or does the user need to physically click from my site? Will some affiliates frown on this practice? This method wont work if you have a shopping site with many products because of the terms ezine has in place. No linking to inner pages only index pages. So I cant do this mydomain.com/product1.html but I can do this product1.info. Will this method work for physical products? Thanks Again! |
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I've posted 2 videos on another thread here at WF that gets into this, if anyone likes to watch it instead of read about it. The OP nailed it... don't just write articles and move on. First do proper keyword research. THEN write the article. THEN get some backlinks. ONLY THEN will you reap on-going traffic that is truly set and forget. It's a simple formula and it amazes me how many article marketers still don't do it all. If you do, you absolutely will build a traffic monster to your site from nothing but your article marketing efforts. Videos are in my signature. ![]() John |
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Awesome article! Very well explained!
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I think thanks to this thread and Mikes fabulous e-book I have finally got the whole keyword research thing down pat, it definately is part art part science, and I really needed the science part, so thanks to everyone contributing on this post. Last night i put Mikes sytem into play and re-wrote an old article after some intensive keyword research (which i now have on a very scientific spreadsheet ). I chose the 5 best key phrases and wrot the article using one of them. I submitted to GoArticles as that one had a big fat zero when searched for matching keyword articles. I am now waiting for it to index so I can begin backlinking.I am still confussed about what to do next as far as submitting to other sites....my original one is submitted to GoArticles....do I submit the article spun with each of the other four best keyphrases also to GoArticles, or do I spin the article once for 4 other article sites such as EA and Squidoo etc? And when does using the auto submitter to mass sites come into play? And seriously Mike, your e-book is so informative and clearly written I recommend it to anyone who really wants to get into this traffic generating method. |
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Thanks for the report. Excellent!
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Wow...I read your post and I learned quite a bit and I am not new to article marketing...but your free report is better than any article marketing course I have paid for Nice work Mike! -Mark |
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Hi Housefinder, I chose GoArticles over EZ based on my own research into which site would give me the best ranking opportunities based on the formula Mike uses. Normally I would have submitted to EA without even thinking twice, but since downloading Mikes e-book I know know there is more of a science to choosing where to submit first. |
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Well, I think my brain is bleeding, lol. I'm hooked on this process, it is so satisfying to be doing more than just putting your heart into an article and sending out into space hoping it might come back and thank you one day. As per Mikes formula I have now completed my 5 articles using the 5 different keywords and submitted them to the appropriate directories...now working on backlinks and have joined Angela Edwards program as many of you have recommended. Mikes email just arrived re getting mileage out of articles, thanks Mike and it brings to mind the recurring question of auto submitters. In order to ensure EVERY article has a unique intro surely it means we must manually submit? I havn't actually used an auto submitter yet, and when/if I do I hadn't planned on letting it auto spin something with my name on it, so I figured I would auto submit the 10 of one version to 10 sites,then 10 of another version to 10 different sites and so on. (You must have read my mind Mike) If I did this I would indeed have 10 carbon copies of each article on 10 different sites.So, I know you have said auto submitting is a personal choice, but my personal choice is to follow Mikes system, so to auto submit or not auto submit, that is the question. Also, and this may seem like a silly question, but just how do you track you placement with google? Do you type in your keywords then laboriously look for your article? |
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If you decide to auto submit, I'd recommend semi-auto which allows you to check each submission as it is made. That way fewer mistakes are made as directories are often changing their requirements and this can cause frequent errors with auto submission. A program like Article Post Robot also has a built-in spinner so that you can add alternatives (synonyms, etc) to your master copy of an article and it will submit a different version of the article to each directory. Ivan |
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Thanks Ivan, I recently purchase Automatic Article Submitter which is developed by a guy on the forum. I haven't actually used it yet but will see if I can semi-auto submit with it. Cheers Sarah |
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I have to be a little careful here because I am going to mention a product that I use that ensures top backlinks. I am an affiliate and to remain within the spirit of the Warriors Forum I will not give any links. Check out pete-in-oz who has the Brute Force system that puts everything I write on to page 1 of Google by means of backlinking to high PR sites. My best effort was for a long tailed keyword that Google showed over 18 million competitors. In less than 1 hour after publishing I had two entires in page 1 of Google. Next morning I had 14 of the top 20 positions for that keyword phrase including positions 1 & 2. Yes it did fade as all articles do, but imagine being able to link all the pages of your website thru this system and getting good rankings throughout. But backlinks don't fade so easily. pete in oz (Peter Drew) is a member of this forum so I'm sure you can find him. Only sad thing is that he only allows a small number of subscribers access to his software and the doors just closed yesterday. But it's still worth checking it out and getting on the waiting list. Regards, Davmac40 |
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Thanks Michael for this golden post about Article Marketing. It's really impressive and I will work on your advices. Goodbye by |
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really helpful. lately i am focusing, on finding good keywords, but i never thought of the density in my article. i've always thought, once I have that good keyword, im set to go.
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That's a really interesting perspective on targeting high PR properities that ARENT currently ranked on the first page... very counter-intuitive but makes a lot of sense! Thanks |
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Hey Mike, If we submit our articles to a bunch of directories, isn't that considered duplicate content and eventually we will get penalized?
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| I write my articles so that the keyword phrase is inserted every one hundred words or so. If I write an article that is 500 words long, the keyword phrase is inserted 5 times.
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| Seeing as Mike is being loved to death by us and is probably about to collapse I thought I'd share his recomendation and that is: use your keyword/phrase in your title, then in the first 100 characters of the body and no more than three times in the entire article as this would be like keyword stuffing or spamming.
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The question I have...and granted...it's a newbie one..When you backlink to your article...are you using contextual backlinks....Hopefully I phrased that correctly...and I must say..you are one of the few that I have read among many so called article marketers...that even mention linking TO the article. This whole thread is solid information...well..except for the random Thank you's in a one liner. Gary |
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This quote from another thread about duplicate v's original: "The thing is you should do both, You should write some decent quality articles purely for traffic generation and submit those to say 10-20 directories, this isnt necessarily for backlinks but for traffic etc and then you should write some quicker articles and not worry too much about the flow of the article purely for backlinks these articles should be spun and submitted to 50-100 articles directories". This sounds like good advice, what is your take Mike? |
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